[Game Thread] Red Wings vs. Blackhawks Game 3
by joehass on May 22, 2009 12:30 PM CDT
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PrintThe Red Wings and Blackhawks take the 284 mile drive to the United Center for Game 3 of the Western Conference Finals.
With Detroit up 2-0 in the series, the Blackhawks need to stop the onslaught of the Red Wings. But the bigger question: when will the Chicago defense show up to help Nickolai Khabibulin? The Red Wings have been firing at him all series seemingly at will.
That being said, this series could just as easily be 2-0 Blackhawks. Chicago obviously had a chance at the Red Wings in Game 2, taking them to overtime, and despite the three-goal margin of victory in Game 1, the Blackhawks had Detroit relatively close through the first two periods, letting the game get away from them in the third.
Some things to watch in Game 3:
* Will either team's stars show up? Patrick Kane has no points on three shots. Marian Hossa has no points on seven shots. Pavel Datsuyk has one assist. Sure, it's nice to be able to get some help from the lower lines, but how long can either team keep this up?
* Can Detroit cut down on giveaways? They've had 24 through two games of this series, and they've been lucky to only give up one goal directly off them. You can't keep turning the puck over and assuming you can play your way out of that.
* How much does home ice help Chicago? They're 5-1 in the playoffs at home, in front of 22,600 screaming fans who have been waiting 14 years for a third-round home game. They have to be geared up for this. Meanwhile, the Red Wings are no strangers to playing in front of hostile territory.
* Finally, will Martin Havlat announce his presence with authority? The Blackhawks playoff scoring leader only has an assist. He needs to be lighting the lamp to show the way for the rest of this team.
Scheduled start time is 8:00 PM ET. Versus will carry the game in the U.S., while CBC takes over in Canada. We'll see you back here then.
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My goalscoring picks
Tonight I’m going with Zetterberg, Franzen, Hudler, and/or Kronwall. I’m not saying all of them will score, that’s what the and/or is for.
If Leino plays, he could be difference maker because he has some fresh legs. Same with Maltby (although he’s a definite start)
Datsyuk officially out
Flip, Helm, Leino each move up a line, this sucks! Oh well, win the game as we are 3-0, only two teams have ever come back from that type of defecit.
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and we are up 3-0*
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haha we were one of the teams to blow a 3-0 lead unfortunately.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
also
Where did you hear that Datsyuk is officially out?
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
ahhh
SI.com reports that Pavel will more than likely be out ,despite the “game-time decision” label slapped on his injury.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya SI is where I got it from.
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Depressing Stats
It has been over a month since Datsyuk scored a goal in a game. Well overdue but thats if he even plays.
As for Hossa, he average a goal every 2 games played during the regular season, it’s been 5 games since he found the back of the net.
I hope so
If Hossa can get it going and Helm and Sammy keep it going it’ll be scary.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
asked my Caps buddy this the other day
Who from Detroit would you most like to see paired with Ovie? Caps could make a move to get one of our free agents this summer.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Ooh good question
Under our cap? Limits our choices. What D men are free agents from the Wings this summer? I think that’s what we’ll go for…
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haha its all good
Um i think all of our D-men are locked up with the exception of Cheli. The list of FA is as follows: Hossa, Hudler, Samuelsson, Tomas Kopecky, and technically Ville Leino but he’ll likely be signed again to minor league deal.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
damn it all. Out of those, I’d take Hudler or Samuelsson in a heartbeat. I think Mikael would fit in well with us, in particular.
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haha well there’s a good chance they could get either because there’s no way (unless there’s magic performed by Holland) that we’ll be able to keep Sammy, Hudler, and Hossa. I’d personally prefer Sammy and Hudler but then again i’m not gonna cry if its Hoss.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
from the discussions on our boards, though, I think we’ll be looking more for a strong D-man. And to figure out what to do with Theodore and Nylander. Figuring them out gives us much more room to work under the cap.
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well
that’s a pickle haha. You could have some vacancies b/c of age (Federov) but also have some big gaps to fill. Yeah if i was the GM i wouldn’t pick up a forward either…well not one that’s going to command as much money as Sammy and Hud are. D was a big problem for the Caps from the game I watched (quite a few b/c of living in Virginia) and so that could be a key area.
Beauchemin, Winiewski, Jordan Leopold, Bouwmeester, Hal Gil, Rob Blake, Rob Scuderi are all names that stick out to me in the FA list
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I REALLY want Feds to stay, not only because he’s my favorite player since, oh, he started in the NHL. He’s tremendously good to have as a leader for the young Russians on the team. And he’s still clutch (see game seven v. Rangers, go Feds).
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yes!
I saw that game! I was very happy for Feds! I still have an autographed, framed (huge) poster of him in a Wings uni, from waaay back when. It hangs in my walk in closet above my dresser, my son calls it “the shrine”, LOL. I kind of hated it when he left, but we did ok. I am glad he finally found a good home.
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
We love him. I say “we” and think it’s pretty true. I love him for sure. I watch his highlight reels often and think, “remember when?…” He’s so damn good.
Oh, and in that game seven, after the shot when Ovie jumped on him, I thought he’d kill Feds. Ovie can be kind of like an overgrown golden retriever in his exuberance.
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wink!
You got plenty of time, because I do’t thimk 8:00 is EVER gonna get here!!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
i’m holding back on the margaritas so as to make it to game time with a brain cell intact.
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all this talk about margaritas
reminded me I needed to go get something drinkable as well! Mademit back just in time!!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
it was just out to dinner that’s why i wasnt sure if i’d be back in time.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Right here!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
lol thats ok..
i never really liked sharing much anyway. i was an only child.
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
to quote Billy Madison “I’d rather have a beer”
I wish i had some beers right now, can’t find my ID though :(
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
well i live in a college town so its a constant, if you’re 29 even
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i got carded twenty minutes ago...
… i’m 40.
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
i’d been hoping he’d get a chance to play!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
his too, i'll bet!!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Hudler with Z and mule for his first shift
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and Cleary sticking with Helm/Samuelsson for the second straight shift
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PK, crap.....
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crap indeed
Are the Blackhawks almost guaranteed a goal?
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
We Can't keep icing it
We’re playing right into their plan right now by allowing them space in the neutral zone, allowing them to gain the offensive zone and forcing us to ice it.
Cleary 4 minute double minor for high sticking
Great…and the horribly maligned PK is out for double duty.
four minutes, that was bad by Cleary...
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JUST f'ing great
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Boo Chicago goal
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That might be...
The first goal that Ozzie should have had. I know there were quite a few bodies in front but it cleared out with enough time to pick up the puck.
Holy crap
I hate this.
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Son of a...
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Bad rebound Osgood
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not just a bad rebound but a bad effort to try and do something about it.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Frick, can't even stand to watch this.
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Maybe Babs needs to use a time out to inspire our troops?
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Why idiots all fight on top of an unconscious guy...
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excellent question.
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
SHIT, KRONNER TOSSED, WTF!!!!
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Legit call
He left his feet, led with his elbow.
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WTF?
There is zero percent elbow there and his feet went up AFTER the hit, even the CBC announcers are saying so, you watching the same game?
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1961111111111 bitch, keep being a loser by cheering for a loser.
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WTF CLEAN HIT BRING HIM B ACK INTO THE GAME, I CALL BULLSHIT
NOW FIVE MINUTE PK< F THIS LEAGUE.
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Fuck you.
That was not a clean hit, it was a fucking elbow and he left his feet. Kronwall is a fucking worthless piece of human shit. I hope he rots in hell.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
HAHAHAHAHA
You guys are down 2-0 in the series faggot.
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When was the last time u guys won a cup? Oh wait, you probably weren't even born! HAHAHA
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Havlat is probably done for his career now, pussy cant take a hit.
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Are you the physician treating him right now?
Because he probably doesn’t even know what the prognosis is for Havlat right now.
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No, but I know this was his first healthy season in a long time.
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And how many Hawks games did you watch this season?
Havlat was surprisingly physical this year.
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I'm not talking about how physical he is
It was well known that before this season he was a walking band-aid or an injury waiting to happen.
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Yes, and my point is that he was very physical (for Havlat) this year AND stayed healthy.
And I’m still waiting for you to make a valid argument.
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Oh, jeez, you got me there.
I must be a homosexual because my team is down 2-0 in this series.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Okay both of you guys
personal attacks stop now or you will be banned
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Um did you see his comments, they were posted first, I have every right to respond if you aren't going to do your job by deleting them and banning him, these are his first comments here, clearly just came to troll.
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yes i understand
but look at how quickly he responded and you responded.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
even the antiWing announcers think it was clean hit
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
The key is the feet
Kronwall left his feet (like he pretty much always does) and the NHL isn’t going to allow that type of hit.
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Or, you know, you could actually take a look at the hit, I dunno though.....
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Are you calling both CBC announcers blind, I'm pretty sure you have to see to call the name.
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I don't know who the CBC announcers are, but the guys on Versus are idiots.
Eddie Olczyck (my avatar) does all the color commentary for the ‘Hawks, and he’s a mouthbreather.
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This guy knows what its about!
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wtf, another god damn penalty, fricking morons
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Great penalty kill
But RIGHT back into the box. Ugh
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GOOD HIT. UNFORTUNATE OUTCOME.
ESPECIALLY IN HERE.
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No kidding
This thread is turning into a shitstorm
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Alright, last warning
to everyone. Personal attacks and excessive foul language are not going to be tolerated.
The hit happened, it’s over. Everyone move on.
it's not a Disney blog
but it’s also not my blog and Christy asked us to try and keep things tame as possible.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Why are you here again?
Other than to try to get a reaction?
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I came here to check out the opinion of educated, rational Wings fans.
And while there are quite a few here, it was very difficult not to respond to benighted fans in the bunch.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Thats weird
If you go back to read your first post it looks like your intention was to troll. May Kronwall rot in hell as you wish!
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Blood pressure was already through the roof after that hit...
couldn’t help myself this time.
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at least
the last penalty kill came in the last minute to give them some rest to start it in the 2nd
by Blazed24sevn on May 22, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Well that period blew
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were darn lucky they havnt score more goals
they’ve outnumbered us most of the time
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CRAPPIEST PERIOD EVER
PK- 13 minutes
PP- Zero minutes
= crap game
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haven’t seen the hit, stuck at work, Ken and Paul thought it was clean….
so, here’s a question, and I’m not picking on campbell because he’s on the Hawks, but because his demolition on Umberger is the first thing I think of when I think OMG HUGE HIT!
Everyone agrees, except maybe Umberger’s mom, that it’s a clean hit, but, his right skate is definitely up in the air….can’t tell on the left…
Look at it again, at about 1:06
Both of Campbell’s skates are on the ice at the moment of impact, AND Umberger had control of the puck. Also, Campbell’s elbow is nowhere near Umberger’s head.
Look at the video you posted again, then look at the hit on Havlat again. There’s very little similarity.
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dudes.
i just did a slow mo replay w/ my dvr. Kronner left the ice during the hit. Sucks, but its true.
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hmmm
cbc announcers, radio announcers, versus game announcers, and versus studio guys all don’t agree with you…
yeah
i know. i am soo bummed to say it, but, its true. he wan’t malicious about it, it wasn’t ‘dirty’, but he was aloft.
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
At least they killed the penalty
They spent almost half the period down a man. And after two months I’ve finally made my first comment on this site.
More then half, 13 minutes. :(
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With the DVR....
i paused the replay. This is from a completely unbiased view:
1. Skates came up, but it was not a jump. He left the ground yeah, but not until after contact was made. Momentum caused him to come off the ground. It was very borderline and happened really fast, so i can see why the refs ejected him.
2. Was not an elbow. Kronwall lead with the shoulder (which in my opinion is just as bad) but did not lead with an elbow. He followed through with his forearm with like a shove off but that is legal.
exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I
had a feeling it might of been momentum that lifted him off the ice, not sure though. Dont have dvr at the moment. Either way i think interference was the wrong call if they were going to make one.
by Blazed24sevn on May 22, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting. I don't have DVR, so I don't have the luxury of going back and doing that.
I’m sure it’ll be replayed ad nauseum and will be on YouTube fairly soon, and we’ll get some official opinions on it.
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In the end, it was definitely a hard hit that would warrant a penalty if the ref was in doubt. We’ll find out tomorrow if it was realllly illegal or enough punishment done already. I think it could go either way. It was unfortunate definitely for both teams. The big picture is both teams are down a player.
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I'd rather be down a forward then a defensemen though
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doubt it
No matter what the NHL thinks of the hit, I doubt he’ll be suspended. They overruled an automatic suspension on Bayda. They won’t suspend anybody unless they pull a McSorley.
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With some good hockey-related comedy!
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Heading into the 2nd period
One of the big things to note, the Wings are without a great defender and icetime contributor in Kronwall while the Blackhawks have lost a great offensive forward in Marty Havlat. Should make for an interesting rest of the game.
Yikes...
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GAME OVEEEEEEEER
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On to the Jays, who will probably starting losing soon anyways
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not yet!
but i did call wings in 5, as uual, so…
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Lot of game left...
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yikes.
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Ozzie had little to no chance
Ozzie prepared for a shot wide, wasn’t even ready to go down for a save. Great deflection though by the Chicago (pahlsson)
How many times in the playoffs have you seen Zetterberg kicked out of the circle? I’ve seen it wayyy to many times.
me too
what is up with that?
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
he’s gotta be doing something in the circle like putting the stick down early or something. I dont know enough about all that to really say.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I THININK ITS TIME
for another beer and a joint… 3 goals a scorin, 2 minutes power play.. and a partidge in a chicagoans pair tree
heh!
I just realized I wasn’t even born last time chicago won a cup. Those fans want this baaad!
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there
gonna have to wait till next year
by Blazed24sevn on May 22, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
ummm
They’re also Cubs fans… Your grandma wasn’t born the last time THEY won the world series.
bout time
at least i got the power play
by Blazed24sevn on May 22, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
woo hoo!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
those were the days, huh?
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
what a craptacular power play
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ha
i thought for a minute it was an ozzie chant untill i realized we were in chicago
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I was confused
I heard it and thought “Wait, why in the hell would THEY chant Ozzie?”
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at least
they werent chanting “make better cars” or somthin gay like tthat
by Blazed24sevn on May 22, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
the calls are just getting ridiculous now
that’s just standard post-whistle chippiness
.0128 > 45-35
In the interest of friendship, I’d like to take this opportunity to thank Chicago for beating Vancouver so this game didn’t start at midnight.
yes!
i’ll second that!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
a replay is so preferable to a dang commercial
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indeed, although he was probably given that
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
That Jordan guy
Might have been a decent basketball player. Maybe lol
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Lebda-Samuelsson on the point for this PP? Ok then...
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Sammy
makes sense because he’s one of the few right handed shots but i dont know about Lebda. I dont understand why Big E wasn’t out there.
by Casey Richey on May 22, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean, do we really want them out together, on the back end? Recipe for disaster.
I don’t remember Lebda getting any PP time ever this season really. Stuart did when Rafi was hurt in round two.
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oh yeah they are!
and larry murphy seems a lil buzzd sometimes, heh!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
nothin wrong with that, its a hockey game
by Blazed24sevn on May 22, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Wish I could
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Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, yes
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ok
theres people here from canada?? that are red wings fans?
by Blazed24sevn on May 22, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya man, Saskatchewan
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if u mean me
no. not in canada, ten minutes away though
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
well
im like 10 mintues away too, detroit, but i dont think i get it
by Blazed24sevn on May 22, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
channel 9
sorry, must be them trees we be smoken, imissed the post where you said u were here!! heh
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
oh
well ill be damned… never knew i had this channel. sparks another joint
by Blazed24sevn on May 22, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
the canadian feed, i'm in detroit- right next to widsor
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
ya
im in detroit too, but i dont think i get cbc
by Blazed24sevn on May 22, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
i think
it must be some government conspiracy or somthhin
by Blazed24sevn on May 22, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
F Burish
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take that Burish
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Woo, still down two though.
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heh!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Classic Holmstrom
“In the crease, out of the crease, In the crease, out of the crease…”
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The Jarrko Ruutu one is classic as well.
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And that's how you score a goal?
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Lidstrom PP Goal
Lot of work to do still but good break for us. Pahlsson with his second tally of the night (unfortunately for him only one was a Blackhawk goal
Wooo!
And who said this game was over???
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Me
and we are still down.
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not no more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
OMG, YES
PLEASE TIE IT SOON.
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thats why i never turned the game off
this is detroit hockey, never over untill the 60 minutes is up
Wow.
Nice goal by Cleary (that COnne Smythe name is sounding accurate).
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Tie game!
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I feel like I’m ilving in the future what with this massive delay on the radio feeds, you guys announce a goal a good 40 seconds before it happens on the radio
hee hee! cool!!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
YAAAAAAAAAA
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I am so glad I was wrong as of now!
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lol, yep!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 22, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Holmstrom in the way!
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AWESOME SECOND PERIOD
all we have to do is outplay them in the 3rd and send all of them chicagoians home cryin
what a great period, glad I kept it here for most of the period!
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