[Game Thread] Wings vs. Blackhawks Game 4
by joehass on May 24, 2009 7:49 AM CDT
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PrintThe Red Wings and Blackhawks face off in Game 4 of the Western Conference Finals. Chicago took Game 3 4-3 in overtime, in a game that had absolutely nothing interesting happen (assuming you don't count coming back from a 3-0 deficit or a game misconduct that shouldn't have been or the general crankiness pulsating through the series so far).
Questions coming into the game:
* Will Nikolai Khabibulin start? Our favorite type of injury, lower-body, was the reported reason for his sudden departure in Game 3, and Joel Quenneville wasn't tipping his hand yesterday, simply saying Khabibulin made "good progress" in the Saturday practice. Our guess: unless the lower-body injury involves the loss of limbs (not apparent, but don't put anything past an professional sports team's training staff), he'll be in there today. No offense to Cristobal Huet, whose entire postseason career consists of made his Blackhawks playoff debut in Game 3 (and whose name was clearly lifted from a Family Guy episode).
* Will Martin Havlat make an appearance? This is a little more complicated. Quenneville was even more wishy-washy on his status. If he suffered a concussion after Niklas Kronwall's hit (which it sure looked like, but IANAMD), then Havlat shouldn't be playing. Of course, try telling a hockey player not to play after a concussion (or any injury) in the playoffs.
* How day-to-day is Pavel Datsyuk? He sat out Game 3. Does Mike Babcock sit him for Game 4? And if he does, would it kill him to light the lamp?
* Can Martin Marian Hossa break through and score after two nice assists in Game 3?
Scheduled start time is 3:00 P.M. ET (though with NBC covering the game, it'll probably be closer to 3:20). NBC (ugh) has the game in the U.S., while CBC (yay!) has the coverage in Canada. See you back here then.
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Won't be around
but will be watching the game at my cousin’s birthday party…Go Wings time to put the black hawks on the brink
10 down....6 to go for a repeat Go Wings!!!
Here we go
got my weed and xanax, ready for game 4
by Blazed24sevn on May 24, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm ready
missed last game because i had to work. today i have a pretty bad hangover (thank you memorial day weekend…) and there is a high chance that i have the swine flu, but there is no way im missing this game
No fíng way
WHAT THE HECK? and Datsyuk is still OUT?? This really sucks if they aren’t both back for game five we are not going to win.
In the grand scheme of things, the pain of life is not worth it.
Datsyuk probably given a rest for what i’m thinking is a muscle strain.
Lidstrom i think took a shot to the thigh
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
If Draper is out
Does that mean Abdelkader, Leino and Helm are all playing?
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UGH
Hopefully we win this and both are back for game five because if we win five as well there is a much needed nine day break no matter what which I am actually happy about right now.
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very true
hopefully we can capitalize on Huet coming in and make 2 wins on it.
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Go Wings
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takes only 9 minutes for the puck to hit the ice in foxsports.
someone did predict that it would take 20 mins to drop the puck on nbc…
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Chelios in for Lidstrom, Leino in for Datsyuk, Abdelkader in for Draper
Sounds great, doesn’t it….. :(
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but hey
if we can win with it than that great. Leino’s probably faster than Datsyuk at this point and just as potent as Pav has been.
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
LETS DO THIS!!!!!!
GET THAT NINE DAY BREAK!!!!
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Chelios with an A tonight in the absence of Draper and Datsyuk
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he looked a little rough.
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
So who's captain today?
the captain and two of the assistants are out?
Saw Chelios with an A, Zetterberg the captain today?
Maybe they are just going without one.
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don’t they normally promote an assistant? should be ozzie
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, we get to hear the anthem!
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my mom
emails me lil red Xs all the time!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
niice!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
lucky girl!!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Even more nervous
I expected to wake up to find out Dats is playing, then find out Lidstrom is not as well as Datsyuk, makes me more nervous for the game.
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This look like a game 1
both teams are “feeling each other out” right now. but with all the changes, it is like a new series at time.
I like how
Stuart jumps up in the attack so often. He rarely gets out of position because of it too so thats good to see.
Clear-Z-Mule has to step it up even more now
Lets go MULE!
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its hudler
Clearys on Sammy’s line i think
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
oh ya forgot about last games switch, wasn't paying attentiion
Huds-Z-Mule
Hoss-Flip-Homer
Clear-Helmer-Sammy
Kader-Leins-Malts?
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hossa
I think Hoss has to have a big game today
Good point...
…the Blackhawks have been adamant not to use the “C” word to avoid drawing the attention of the league to Havlat, even though he clearly was in the middle of the next week.
He was
knocked the f out!! I’d say no. I’m no doctor, though. Just a mom.
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
"lower body injury"
so that could mean anything
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
i read somewhere>> a puck to the leg
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
DET PENALTY: Zetterberg (2-Holding) 7:41
Chicago PP Playoffs: 18/61 30%
Chicago PP Series: 3/10 30%
Detroit PK Playoffs: 14/50 72%
and as Adam points out
Without Lid and Dats its going to be trouble…
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Shit
This is where it unravels, our PK already sucks, no Lidstrom, Z, or Dats for this one makes it worse.
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yeah true
I dont like that puck squeezing through ozzie’s pads
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
VERY SCARY slo mo there!!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome to the series Hossa!
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indeed!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
at this point
i wish it’d break so i can get a new one.
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
i yelled too... then proceeded to cough up a lung
being sick and watching the red wings is really detrimental to my health
i did that once… cost me 35$ to make it work again.
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
How was that not interference by Byfuglien on Osgood
Stupid ref was right there.
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thats what i'm getting
maybe not that model but just something small for taking notes in class etc.
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
what would i do w/o my sticking buttons?
probably going to get one for hubby for his b-day.
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Franzen-Seabrook coincidental minors
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Stupid
He sent Kronwalls stick flying..
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not much of a salesman, good thing he can play hockey
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
pointmen?
Rafalski-Stu
Kronner-Sammy?
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Sammy because he's one of the 3/4 right handed shots
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry for not clarifying
I understand Sammy despite his crap shot, I was just wondering if those were going to be the point pairings or maybe Ericsson.
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CHI PENALTY: 26 Pahlsson (2-Roughing) 13:43
Detroit PP Playoffs: 16/63 (25%)
Detroit PP Series: 2/10 (20%)
Chicago PK Playoffs: 11/54 (80%)
filli
fillipula’s playing big and taking a beating
God I hope they don’t fight, we don’t need another head injury and Buff can provide those
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Coincidental minors to Buff and Homer
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pahlsson
sammi seems to have some fight in him. why isn’t the rest of the team playing with the same intensity… i really don’t get chicago’s game plan in this one.
Osgood bailing out a BAD turnover
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DAS MULE!
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Hell yeah!
What a period, lets keep up the scoring!
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And then Franzen almost had a second one there at the very end...
…I’ll take that first period, thank you very much!
Franzen almost had another with no time left.....
Great 1st period Wings
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First Period Stats
Shots: Detroit 14, Chicago 9
Hits: Detroit 15, Chicago 8
Giveaways: Detroit 3, Chicago 5
Faceoffs: Detroit 12, Chicago 12
Penalties: Detroit 3-6, Chicago 3-6
Power Play: Detroit 0-1, Chicago 0-1
nice goals scored!
and thank goodness for Ozzie!!
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WOW!
Didn’t know we were getting a PP, nice!!!
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yes, and i think this evidence of the (chicago’s) inexperience we hear so much talk about… they haven’t the composure at this point, that they need to pull this off.
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Two updates from CBC
Lidstrom day-to-day. The injury did take place during Game 3, but he wasn’t feeling well after Saturday’s practice, so they held them off.
Hawks did not want Havlat to play today, but Havlat effectively said, “Who’s going to stop me?”
wow
ballsy? or team spirit?
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow...
Quenneville was standing on the bench screaming like a maniac at the stripes at the start of the period.
FLIPPPPPPPPP
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
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GOAL!!!!!!
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lol
naw, they are quiet when they are down
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Shit
thirteen straight games, what the hell
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Goalie change, CRAWFORD@
lets see if we can pile on
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how many do they have left?
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
hope he's warmig up somewhere, we got a lot o game left to play!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
did you catch the
Kronner hit at the end of the 2nd?
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
ah
i just forgot to DVR it before i left for the weekend
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
not definite
but i saw the ref pointing at Versteeg
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Full 5-on-3!!!!?
Thanks Versteeg, WOOT!!
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CHI PENALTIES: Walker (2-Removing Sweater) 7:06 Versteeg (2-Cross Checking)7:06
Detroit PP: 1/2 (8 shots)
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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versteeg
stupid penalty to take. The hawks should fine him. ’specially now that we scored.
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Zetterberg!
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Another penalty to Versteeg
HOLY CRAP, lets pile it on!!!
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If I was his wife, I’d try to get in the locker room to get his stuff so he can just head right for the car after the game. Don’t even want to cross Quenneville.
yeah but
after the game? how ’bout after the period? lol
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
showin’ all his skills tonight!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't this Hossa's third two goal game of the play-offs?
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So at this point in the game
Do you think the Hawks go for a cheap shot on Kronwall or one of our stars?
That last call
on Versteeg was as ticky-tac as it gets. I’ll take it, don’t get me wrong, but that was soft
Chelios should be able to play more now...
Although if he is on for a goal against that would ruin it for him.
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Interesting
Babcock didn’t know Lidstrom wasn’t playing till he was in the Cab.
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Huh? did i read that right?
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
NBC told us
that they called in a Neurologist so apparently he was fine…
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Eddie O loves mentioning his time in Winnipeg with Khabby
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YES!!
and some of us already heard all of that friday night on cbc!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Its going to get beyond chippy
Big fight coming to end 2nd
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disagree
i think that’ a horrible idea for them to start giving out 10s. There is gonna be a lot of “controversy” if that happens.
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
specially when the hawks are down to three guys!!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not saying for little things.
I;m saying if guys are doing stupid &(&*
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lol
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
(and he is SO much faster at it than nbc!)
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Another great period!
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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Second Period Stats
Shots: Detroit 14-10=24, Chicago 9-10=19
Hits: Detroit 15-5=20, Chicago 8-9=17
Giveaways: Detroit 3-2=5, Chicago 5-2=7
Faceoffs: Detroit 12-12=24, Chicago 12-14=26
Penalties: Detroit 3-6—1-2=4-8, Chicago 4-8—4-16=8-24
Power Play: Detroit 0/1—1/4=2/5, Chicago 0/1—1/1=1/2
w-o-w
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Conklin in?
Lulz
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Conklin In...
…solely because there’s no reason to risk Osgood in a game that could get out of hand.
I thought the same thing.
But he hasn’t seen any action since the Hawks/Wings home in home to end Regular season.
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told him to rest and be ready for game 5
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Those were absurdly sweet touch passes
too bad they could not generate a better scoring chance
.0128 > 45-35
yikes!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Ozzy is just getting some well deserved rest!
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rats!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Vroom Vroom Da Party Starter!
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Whats the phone number to order tickets to Game 5?
Can’t find it.
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got voice mail.
Odd. I thought for sure they would have people in the office today.
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What took so long for that call?
Versteeg seemed disappointed that he had not been kicked out earlier
.0128 > 45-35
Chelios with 2 seconds this period....
makes no sense.
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Who needs Datsyuk or Lidstrom? Pffft, sit them out for game five even if they are ready!
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Burrish that ass ran at Helm
That should be an instigator…
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HEY HEY HOCKEYTOWN!!!!!!!
Lets win game five now, we need that nine day break!!!!
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i think he’s perfectly fine. With a lead like that , why not rest him when you risk one of the Hawks taking a cheap shot
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
They mentioned on the Wings postgame that it’s not like Babcock to do that, especially with two off days coming up.
oh maybe it’s just something minor. I hope its not Conklin for the next game though he looked very shaky
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think he looked too bad.
Again considering how long he’s been off. He didn’t look great on the first Chicago shot but I thought he settled down nicely.
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yeah towards the end he did. he just looked out of position quite often at the start of the 3rd but then again as you said with the time off.
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
but I thought someone said that he might have been injured.
I knew they would pull him in favor of Conklin but figured they would keep him dressed.
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I did. They dressed Jimmy Howard and had him on the bench, which meant that Osgood wasn’t going to come back. You wouldn’t do that unless Osgood couldn’t come back.
Guess I will listen to post game new conference on NHL.com
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Final Period Stats
Shots: Detroit 14-10-9=33, Chicago 9-10-9=28
Hits: Detroit 15-5-4=24, Chicago 8-9-11=28
Giveaways: Detroit 3-2-0=5, Chicago 5-2-4=11
Faceoffs: Detroit 12-12-8=32, Chicago 12-14-10=36
Penalties: Detroit 3-6—1-2—3-6=7-14, Chicago 4-8—4-16—8-32=16-56
Power Play: Detroit 0/1—1/4—1/3=3/8, Chicago 0/1—1/1—0/2=1/4
Wow.
Good stuff.
Ok well if I’m at the game, then I won’t chat with you guys, but if not see you Wednesday.
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let me know since i’m writing the wrap up and my internet is slow here
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
On Lidstrom...
“was in the cab on the way over here. without pav and drapes and kope, you start to say to yourself, oh. thought zetterberg had a great game.”
On composure...
“Kronwell in my opinion had a really nice finished check, and they were too busy making amends to that, which put up on the power play a lot.”
On Patrick Kane
“till today, we played nick against him. we just try to play a good five-man unit. thought we had some good penalty kill time. you’re never going to slow him down totally. Game 3: i thought that line dominated a few shifts territorially despite not getting on the scoresheet.
On fast start
“you better get started on time and not play catchup. we battled our way back in game 3. great teams find a way to overcome anything. this time of year, it’s all about will and determination”
On Osgood...
“I’d never give him off. He was dehydrated, they put him onto the IV, didn’t work, he’ll get the fluids back.”
On Hossa...
“i thought he was awesome. he needed to step up, and he did. the fourth goal, he did a great job there.”
Good news
Then Ozzy should be geared to go next game!
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Was frantically typing…
Yeah, the implication was that it was an end-of-game situation, so they sat him. Babcock scoffed at the idea of giving Osgood a rest just because of the game situation…“I’d never give him the day off.”
haha that’s why i like Babcock. but dehydration can be serious business so its good they rested him.
by Casey Richey on May 24, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Whomever asked the question assumed it was a rest thing, and it was funny to see Babcock nip that right in the bud at the very start of the question.
On Chicago making big hits...
“We talked about that. We need to be as physical as we can between the whistles.”
“We witnessed the worst call in the history of sports at the end of the second period.”
“They destroyed whatever was happening on the ice.”
On Havlat
“Martyu was fine was ready to go…had a good start. he really preogressed the last two days. We did what we could…we’ll see how he is going into wednesday.”
(goaltender change) “Wanted to change the momentum in the second, and we wanted to get him some time.”
hah!
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by HockeeJunkee on May 24, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
beautifulll job guys
watched the game at my cousin’s loved every minute of it….what an answer by Hossa after the lone goal by the hawks hahaha
11 down....5 to go for a repeat Go Wings!!!
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