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Two Notes From Last Night's Red Wings Telecast

We tend not to make much mention about the actual broadcasts of Red Wings games around here, but a couple things came to mind.

During our live blog last night, someone noted that Fox Sports West was showing footage of a person in the rafters above Joe Louis Arena. Those who were watching Fox Sports Detroit's broadcast heard exactly nothing about it, but it became very obvious when the play was at the Wings end of the ice that almost an entire section was deserted, and not the "we're late getting out of the Olympia Club" deserted either.

According to a statement released by the Red Wings (but not on their website), three people got up to the fifth floor of the arena. One decided to climb onto a conduit rack (which is clearly not designed to support the weight of a person) and froze there until arena security and the Detroit Police Department could get them down.

While I understand (but don't necessarily agree with) the idea of not showing the fan on the local broadcast, there was no way to not notice an entire section of Joe Louis Arena almost empty, and it would've been nice to have some level of acknoledgement that there was something going on since it was so obvious to those watching it.

Then there's Mickey Redmond. Mickey falls under the category of "Lovable Legend" when it comes to broadcasting games, and I don't think anyone questions his love of the game. But two things last night were particularly irksome:

When talking about the situation involving Los Angeles Kings GM Dean Lombardi's comments on Red Berenson, the University of Michigan hockey head coach and collegiate coach of star defenseman Jack Johnson, Redmond was taking Lombardi to task when he added, "He shouldn't have even been talking to him." Him being Gann Matsuda, the writer on Frozen Royalty, a blog on the Kings. I took from that a shot at Matsuda, probably because he's not one from the "old media" group, and because Lombardi's initial defense was that Matsuda didn't understand the rules regarding whether the comment was on the record or not.

Then, during a moment in which Daniels was talking about players returning from the injured reserve list, Redmond dropped a bombshell: that Andreas Lilja (who has been out for almost a year now from a concussion) could come back next week. Ken Daniels seemed completely surprised when it was brought up. When we heard it during the game thread last night, there was some discussion as to whether Redmond misspoke, but that seemed unlikely because, as he was saying it, he used the telestrator to circle Lilja on the on-screen graphic.

The problem, however, is that Ken Holland told Ansar Kahn that wasn't true at all:

"Nothing has changed," Holland said. "I'm not aware of that (Redmond's comment). He (Lilja) has good days and bad days. Nobody has said anything to me that he's getting close."

I know people love Mickey Redmond, and he brings the very definition of both words when it comes to "color commentary." That being said, the first comment was the kind of thing that reminds me of how close to Don Cherry he can be: arrogant, "not the right way, meaning the old way," offputting. The second one was inexcusably wrong. I don't expect Redmond to know who Kirk Herbstriet is, but I'd suggest he take a moment or two to brush up on Herbstriet's 2007 Michigan coaching "reporting" before he decides to do that again.

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I’m glad this got cleared up, it was interesting reading the game thread last night and FSD wasn’t mentioning anything about the people near the roof, and the other feed seemed to be talking about it. As for Lilja returning, it was irresponsible of Mickey to say that without any basis, but I am sad to hear it’s not true, because it would be nice to see him back.

by crperreau on Jan 24, 2010 12:40 PM CST reply actions  

I was wondering about both of these

It’s good to see some information about it.

Stupid and irresponsible by the fans. Imagine what would have happened to the NHL if they had fallen.

And sad to hear that Lilja isn’t healthy enough to return.

by Casey Richey on Jan 24, 2010 2:24 PM CST reply actions  

I see your point

about not actually showing the guy up in the rafters. If he was really in a place that wasn’t designed to hold his weight, something tragic could have happened and it is obvious why they wouldn’t broadcast that. But it’s very odd that they didn’t even mention it – surely they must have noticed that a section was empty and that security people were keeping fans out of there. They could have just explained the reason for the empty section without showing it.

The Kings broadcast, which I was watching (and mentioned in the live blog last night), took the opposite approach. They not only explained the empty section, and showed the guy, but made cracks about it. “If he falls, that’s too many men on the ice! Ha ha.” Which is kind of funny, I suppose, but also pretty classless and irresponsible given the risks involved.

By the way, this is mentioned on the Wings’ website now (sorry if this link is not clickable, I don’t know how to do that): http://redwings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=514854&cmpid=rss-caples

by jennbikegirl on Jan 24, 2010 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

Well what do you know

It is clickable. This site is brilliant!

by jennbikegirl on Jan 24, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks for the link!

Yeah it was weird seeing that section clear within the game.

by Casey Richey on Jan 24, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, Jenn. Interestingly, the actual statement from Minister of Information John Hahn does not appear on the website, which was what I was referring to.

by joehass on Jan 24, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I just heard Mickey's comments on the blogger in the background

But at first I thought he was grumbling more about Lombardi talking to anyone about what Jack Johnson’s college coaching experience was like, and commenting that instead of just not talking to a blogger, he shouldn’t have been discussing Red Berensen and how horrible of a coach he was with anyone. Maybe more of a grumble about the subject matter and not who he was talking to.

Possibly the Kings telecast showed the idiot in the rafters because they were less familiar with the building and didn’t realize how precarious the situation was. I’m waiting until they add the obvious statement to all reports on the incident: “It is believed that alcohol was involved.” :)

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Jan 24, 2010 3:19 PM CST reply actions  

kings broadcast

i watched the kings broadcast too…and they showed it quite a bit. and yes, their play by play guy was a complete jackass cracking 3 or 4 jokes about the suicidal fan.

He also made took a shot at detroit fans, during play, saying that half the arena was watching the crazy fan instead of the game.

by OriginalRecipeIzzy on Jan 25, 2010 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

Lilja

KHAN! Is reporting today that Lilja has be headache free for 13 days and if he gets to 14, he will meet with team doctors to discuss his status.

If he gets to 14 (but these go to 11…) he may be able to return to active play in February.

This is HUGE! No he’s not a goal scorer (may do we need some…) but he’s stellar on the PK and he tended to keep Lebda in check when they were together last year.

Don’t know why Holland wouldn’t be aware of this info, but who knows.

by The Dk on Jan 25, 2010 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

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