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It's Not Worth Winning If You Can't Win Big: Red Wings 5 - Ducks 4

Recognize that? That's a quote from the Anaheim Ducks' namesake movie. Now, the Wings didn't win big tonight, and you know what: I don't care. I'm as competitive as the next guy, but to me, winning is winning. The Red Wings came out flying, and scored a goal on a power play midway through the first period. Unfortunately, that old bugaboo The Last Minute Goal showed up, as the Wings got caught out of position in their own end. The second period started out slow for both teams, and then the Ducks potted 2 goals in 34 seconds, again off of bad plays by the Wings. After the second goal, the Wings seemed to wake up, and they were able to tie the game on a gorgeous tip-in by Tomas Holmstrom. The Wings started the third with some gusto, but Jimmy Howard gave up a soft goal to Teemu Selanne, and I can't have been the only person thinking that it was going to be one of those nights. However, Henrik Zetterberg did his best Homer-impression with a long-range tip in, and just as it seemed the game was headed to overtime, Pavel Datsyuk went top corner with the game winner in a move that may or may not have been at least partially called by yours truly.

The recap above was just the decoy. Join me after the jump where I look over the bloody carcass of my latest Duck prize.

Star-divide

This was by far the best overall effort I have seen from the Wings tonight (keep in mind I missed the first 3 games). Let's get to the bullet points. 

  • When the game started, they showed a clip of Todd Bertuzzi staring at the camera....."smiling" I guess (if someone can get a screencap of this, I'll heart you for a long time). The only way I can describe how I felt as I looked into Bert's eyes is this: it felt like my soul was being tortured by an unseen force, and I had visions in my head of evil, horrible things. Then I was able to break eye contact and suddenly felt a lot better.
  • It figures that after a game in which Jimmy Howard stands on his head and we praise the living crap out of him, he comes up with just an "okay" game tonight. Thanks for making us all look bad, Jimmy. Now, let me be clear that I am not saying anything negative about him. He had a tough game, especially on the goal by Selanne. Given how he's been so far this season, I'm willing to give him a break on tonight's game, but only because they won. I will say that he seemed to be fighting the puck a little more than usual tonight, and there were a couple of times where he seemed to completely lose sight of the puck. He also didn't really have many "big saves" as JJ calls them. But, they won on a night when their goaltender didn't bring his A-game, and that's fine: sometimes he will bail them out, and sometimes the team will rescue him. That's why it's a team game. Still, a part of me can't help but think that if this were Chris Osg......nevermind, I'm not going there.
  • The Flying Circus put the rest of the league on notice that any rust that may have been there at the beginning of the season is gone, and they are ready to assume their rightful place as the most dangerous line in hockey. Good God were they amazing tonight. My nipples are hard just thinking about how awesome they were tonight. There was not a single shift where I had a negative thought about anyone on that line. They skated circles around the Ducks, they had chances besides the 4 goals they created, and they neutralized the Ducks' top line of Perry/Getzlaf/Beleskey. Henrik Zetterberg broke out in a big way with 2 goals and 2 assists, Tomas Holmstrom is officially off the schneide with the aforementioned tip-in, and Datsyuk continued his mastery over the Ducks with the GWG. I weep for the Wings' opponents.
  • Speaking of the Ducks top line: did they even show up tonight? Ryan Getzlaf had 1 assist, and that's it for them on the scoresheet. Besides trying to decapitate Johan Franzen with a big elbow, Beleskey's name wasn't even mentioned. And resident douche-bitch Corey Perry was a complete no-show. Now, he did take a questionable penalty that led to the Wings' first goal, but other than that, I did not notice Perry at all. That's a good thing. Usually I'm yelling a ton of profanities at him for being the asshole that he is, but I love the fact that he was invisible tonight. Maybe he was afraid of having his ass beat down again by Datsyuk. Maybe he forgot to take his dickhead pills. Whatever the reason, I was not nearly as angry as I normally am watching a Wings-Ducks game.
  • Hey, Andreas Lilja: still think that keeping your agent was a good idea? It's a lot different playing against the Wings than for them, eh? Still, when I heard about how he was dumped by the Sharks mid-flight from here to Europe, I couldn't help but feel a little sorry for what he's been through this off-season.
  • The refs didn't call a penalty after the first period tonight. In a Ducks game. The Ducks, according to the referees, did not commit an act that was against NHL rules for an entire 2 periods. I know, I know: I'm scared, too.
  • The third line was good tonight. I know the stats won't show it, but this was their best game together as a unit. Dan Cleary looked like the Buckets of a few years ago, flying all over the ice and making things happen. Jiri Hudler actually had some jump tonight, got off a few shots, and looked like he was really trying to get things going. Even Modano looked pretty good tonight, except he needs to shoot the puck a lot more. The second line was good, too, but again they weren't great. Still, Franzen scored again with an assist for Bertuzzi, so Todd's still on his pace. However, with Hank's 4 points, the Tuzz no longer leads the team in scoring, and to me, it just feels like the universe is now in a little bit more alignment.
  • We've been harping on some things the Wings need to do better for the last 2 weeks, and tonight they responded. Start better? Check. Be better on the power play? Check (1 for 3, and looked dangerous for the most part). Don't give up an early goal? Check. But, once again they gave up a last minute goal, and for the love of all things holy, does it seem like every time they get a little out of position in their own zone the puck ends up in the back of the net? Just once I'd like to see them run around a little and screw up their coverages but not be typing out swear words because it resulted in an opposition goal. However, the upside is that overall, the team defense was better tonight, and Niklas Kronwall in particular had a strong game, including Kronwalling Teemu Selanne with a nice hit in the first period that left Teemu looking like he had 1 too many at the Hockeytown Cafe. 
  • Explain to me how Curtis McElhinney ended up as the third start in a game in which he gave up 5 goals and had a save percentage of .878. Nicklas Lidstrom had 3 assists, was +2, and looked like he's back to his Perfect self. Even Bobby Ryan had a goal and an assist and was one of the more dangerous Ducks on the night. I know McElhinney looked pretty good, but I just don't think you can give up that many goals and be a "star".
  • The intermissions brought about a lot of interesting talk from the game thread participants. If you weren't a part of it, go back and read through some of the comments if you have time: I'll guarantee that you'll get to certain parts and think "yep, this must have been the intermission".

Hey, remember when the Wings had that 4 day layoff after their game last Saturday, and how much we hated it? Well, get ready to experience deja vu all over again. The Wings don't play again until Thursday when the Phoenix Coyotes come to town. I'm hoping that the fact there will be more than 6,700 people in the building will throw the Coyotes off their game and the Wings will be able to keep up this torrid pace. We'll see you on Thursday for the game.

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McElhinney gave up five goals, sure. But they had a lot of defensive breakdowns in front of him and he made some truly brilliant saves, including a few following Datsyukian Dekes that so many a netminder have fallen victim to.

by Apocalyptic0n3 on Oct 23, 2010 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

That was more of an "after" game rant

I still think there were other players more deserving of the third star than McElhinney. Although to be completely honest, I think “3 stars” is useless.

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by Amerinadian on Oct 23, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eurotwins

Is it me or does it seem like 3 or 4 even strength shifts every game, we get Lidstrom, Datsyuk and Zetterberg plus whoever else Babcock sends out and it looks like a powerplay, they cycle the puck for 30, 40 seconds and create 2 or 3 great shooting lanes. I couldn’t help but think on the shift that lead to Datsyuks GWG that it looked just like a power play, whoever had the puck was never under real pressure and always had an open pass.

by gyldenlove on Oct 23, 2010 10:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

Their puck possession tonight was unreal. Part of that is Babcock’s ability to exploit matchups at home.

For me, this was by far Zetterberg’s best game, and not just because he had 4 points. He was driving the net, creating chances, getting off quality shots, and was just his usual “Z” self tonight. I get chills just thinking of how good the Circus was tonight.

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by Amerinadian on Oct 23, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Zetterberg definitely had the best night among Red Wings players. He was always in the right spot in all three zones.

by J.J. from Kansas on Oct 24, 2010 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was the same with Homer’s tying goal. They kept holding the puck in the zone and cycled for a good 30-40 seconds. It was one of those times where you knew something was going to happen because of how much the Wings were just outworking the opposition.

When the offense can do that, it leads to 1 of 2 things, a power play or a goal.

Saturday, it led to 2 goals (Homer’s and Dats’).

by Robocop on Oct 25, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't say "enjoy" is the word I would use for me

I know that he was given a lot of bad advice by his advisors, but ultimately it should have been his decision, and if he really wanted to play for the Wings, he could have taken their offer. But I never had anything against him when he was here. Still, I wasn’t that upset that it was him and not someone else :)

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by Amerinadian on Oct 23, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lilja

rang a puck off the post. And here I was thinking wasn’t allowed to shoot at the net. Aside from that, he played pretty well, all things considered.

Anyone else notice that Kronwall was out just about every other shift? Nearly 26 minutes, more than anyone else. It seems like this was the first game this season than Lidstrom played less than that.

by bleep bloop on Oct 24, 2010 1:10 AM CDT reply actions  

I was also going to say
Dan Cleary looked like the Buckets of a few years ago, flying all over the ice and making things happen.

…like Selanne’s breakaway.

by bleep bloop on Oct 24, 2010 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

All things considered

like his minus-2 rating and the two turnovers he had that led directly to Red Wings goals.

I thought he was easily one of Detroit’s best players tonight.

by J.J. from Kansas on Oct 24, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Selanne and other Ducks

crying about their penalties. Don’t have a link but it’s on Mlive.com. Really a hilarious read when you consider how much asshattery that team commits. And they claim they got too many penalties. And Kronwall’s hit was “illegal”. Laughable.

by Dubie on Oct 24, 2010 2:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Link here

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/10/ducks_teemu_selanne_says_red_w.html

I will throw in that I am not happy with Kronwall choosing to hit Selanne high. I think the hit was legal, but I would rather he had made a different decision.

Still, this is the second time in a row that the Ducks have complained that the Red Wings are outright favored at the Joe Louis Arena. I understand non-Wings fans may agree with this and I don’t care. What I do care about is that apparently people are supposed to be fined for this shit.

I do think the Perry interference was a bad call and I was pleasantly surprised by how cleanly this game was played (save for what could have turned into some real ugliness in the first).

by J.J. from Kansas on Oct 24, 2010 2:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perry interference

That one was definitely sketchy. I think it would have been a good call if Perry glanced over to Franzen before the collision and just “happened” to get in his way. Maybe there was more the ref saw, maybe not.

by Elfuego51 on Oct 24, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if it was legal

I didn’t see it initially, but there’s a video on Yahoo’s stars of the night thing (Z was #1, despite all the hat tricks) and you can clearly see him going up before the hit. I don’t think he completely left his skates, but it did look like he might have jumped.

(All emphasis is mine.)

42.1 Charging – A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates or jumps into, or charges an opponent in any manner.

It clearly was not elbowing, like Selanne implies.

45.1 Elbowing – Elbowing shall mean the use of an extended elbow in a manner that may or may not cause injury.
His elbow, if it hit Selanne at all, hit on a follow-through of the check and was not extended.

48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A lateral or blind side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principle point of contact is not permitted.

Selanne’s head may have been the principle point of contact, but it clearly was not a lateral or blindside hit as Selanne was skating right at him and saw him the whole time.

The only possibility for supplemental discipline is if the referee had called a charging game misconduct and injury resulted, neither of which happened.

by bleep bloop on Oct 24, 2010 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's Kronwall's hit at initial impact

As you can see, his elbow is against his body. He brings it up later during the follow through, but it doesn’t catch Selanne at all. Selanne, other than turning his head at the last minute, is facing the play. Legal hit, provided Kronwall’s feet are on the ice.

by Rob Rogacki on Oct 24, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, and sorry Graham

My computer wouldn’t start up fast enough and I missed getting a screenshot of the Todd Bertuzzi smile you were talking about. It was creepy as shit though.

by Rob Rogacki on Oct 24, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad someone else saw it

It was disturbing as all get-out. I get chills just thinking about it.

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by Amerinadian on Oct 25, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing dirty about this hit

Since it’s north/south, the responsibility lies with Selanne to realize where he is on the ice. Also, it doesn’t make sense to be punished for lowering your shoulder to hit a guy up around the head.

by Elfuego51 on Oct 24, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I went to bed after I posted that.....

my only response is regarding his “jumping”. If you watch his youtube videos, every hit Kronner has ever made appears as though he jumps into the player. But if you watch it carefully, he makes contact with both feet on the ice, then hit momentum and power in the followthrough cause his skates to come off the ice after impact. This is not the first time he’s been called out on that, but it doesn’t actually happen.

by Dubie on Oct 24, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most of the time that is true

On this particular hit, he was already moving up prior to the hit.

That said, I’m pretty sure “jump[ing] into…an opponent” is not clearly defined, so I’m not sure it would be charging even if he were clearly completely off his skates. Perhaps it means launching oneself at an opponent, which did not happen.

by bleep bloop on Oct 24, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Couldn't watch the game but the Ducks are complaining about officiating?

Color me surprised this is coming from one of the more goon riddled hockey clubs in the league. Especially since the Ducks tend show their frustration on the ice when their losing by picking fights and scrumming. Oh, not to forget their fans call that crap “part of hockey.” I’ll take this ugly win and an ugly win that didn’t go to overtime at that.

by Idle Drifter on Oct 24, 2010 7:22 AM CDT reply actions  

They get it from their coach.

Have you ever heard Carlyle talk? Seems like everytime the Ducks lose they blame it on the officiating. I’ve seen it especially from past Ducks/Sharks series, and from games where teh Ducks were clearly the undisciplined team! Like it or not coach, reputation means something in this league…so either clean up your team’s reputation (not gonna happen) or STFU.

by tehGOALIE on Oct 24, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

good shit

nice to see Z go off….i still haven’t seen the highlights but will soon

LETS GO RED WINGS!

2011 will be the year....better be....

Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."

by TuLoRocks2008 on Oct 24, 2010 9:10 AM CDT reply actions  

I am so tired of the Ducks

since the Pronger incident, I would not have pity if they never won another game. How Niedermeyer does not get a suspension along with him was beyond me. And a game was not enough.
They were like a new Avs for me, but without Niedermeyer its not the same.

by rbanner on Oct 24, 2010 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

i couldn't agree more

LETS GO RED WINGS!

2011 will be the year....better be....

Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."

by TuLoRocks2008 on Oct 24, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Try this

Every time I think of Pronger, I think of how he almost died playing against the Red Wings and then I don’t get upset.

by bleep bloop on Oct 24, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget

He tore his ACL trying to hit #19 as well. That’s also a fond memory.

by Big Z in Orlando on Oct 26, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

The best part about the Ducks...

…is that they’ve become irrelevant since Pronger left. They’ve changed from a good team that plays dirty to a mediocre team that plays dirty. And while I still hate the way they play, my hatred towards them isn’t nearly as strong as it was a couple years ago.

The only guy I like on their team is Hiller. He’s a good goalie…though I’m starting to wonder if he’s regressed significantly since two years ago.

by tehGOALIE on Oct 24, 2010 6:49 PM CDT reply actions  

X items of note from the Ducks game

I’m a bit late, but that’s what happens when I spend the weekend in Detroit.

I – I missed the first part of the game, up until Franzen’s goal. Glad I did

II – Nice work by Franzen to keep digging at it until it went in.

III – This was also the only goal that I could fault McElhenney for. The others were definitely not his fault.

IV – Howard looked pretty good. Hard to fault him for the Selanne goal. Lots of senior league players have the puck stay on the ground while their follow through says top shelf.

V – Kronwall still looks a little lost at times. Some of his passes were just bad. Not turnover bad, but he was missing his target. Defensively he did look quite a bit better though.

VI – Refereeing was MEH at best. There were a couple plays in both directions where I had to question their union’s vision plan.

VII – I was hearing reports that the Ducks equipment manager quit after the game. Apparently he doesn’t mind cleaning jocks, but retrieving them from the rafters is too much for him.

VIII – Powerplay definitely looked more dangerous. That’s a good sign, and hopefully they can keep improving.

IX – Are the Wings in the CCHA? This Thursday/Saturday scheduling is ridiculous.

X – Datsyukian. I’ll never get tired of hearing that out of Ken Daniel’s mouth.

by Robocop on Oct 25, 2010 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

VII – I was hearing reports that the Ducks equipment manager quit after the game. Apparently he doesn’t mind cleaning jocks, but retrieving them from the rafters is too much for him.

Excellent. You should start putting these X Items of Note in fanposts. I look forward to reading them after each game.

by J.J. from Kansas on Oct 25, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

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