Datsyuk the Defenseman: More Ammo for the Bloggers
by J.J. from Kansas on Oct 31, 2010 3:08 PM CDT
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Dirk Hoag at Predators blog On The Forecheck has had his share of run-ins with the way The Tennesean covers hockey, going so far at times to urge readers to cancel their subscriptions with the paper. Today, they're at it again with a byline about how Pavel Datsyuk finally shook off the shackles of his defense-only play and ran roughshod over the Predators in a rare offensive outburst for the apparent defenseman.
Dirk does an excellent job over there of giving Datsyuk his due by pointing out that for each of the last seven seasons, Datsyuk's output would have made him Nashville's leading scorer and explains that the story run in The Tennessean itself is taken straight from the AP, since the paper didn't send their beat writer Josh Cooper along on the road trip. The article itself isn't the problem, it's the headline and byline tacked on by some lazy editor who couldn't be bothered to take the 30 seconds it would have required to fact check and find out that Datsyuk is 1. not a defenseman and 2. only a "rare" point producer in the sense that players with his skillset are not common in the NHl.
So, anybody want to guess whether I go to the mainstream Tennessee media or the bloggers when I'm looking for news about the Predators? Why do we have to keep having the debate about credentials and accountability again? If all bloggers are going to be looked over with the same lens when talking about what harm or good they do, then all traditional news outlets, national and local should get the same treatment. I'd like to see The Sporting News have to keep defending their right to coverage every time some rinky-dink daily rag with more than half-a-million subscribers gets something wrong.
[For the record, I have never been denied credentials because I have never requested them. Not a lot of good a guy in Kansas is going to do with a press pass to the Joe Louis Arena - I just think the arguments against the quality bloggers who actually do want that access are ridiculous]
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Well that sucks.
If he’s been a defenseman this whole time, he’s been absolutely ROBBED of several Norris Trophies. Stupid ignorant Euro-hating NHL voters. >:(
Random Ramblings from a Somewhat Scattered Mind
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
although...
If he WAS a defenseman, he would kick ass at it. Talk about a smooth passer and puck mover. :)
Random Ramblings from a Somewhat Scattered Mind
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Pavel Datsyuk could be anything
Hell, he could prolly be a goalie if he wanted to…
Go for it
by DetroitSports on Oct 31, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I just got a mental picture
of Dominik Hasek dangling skaters behind his own net with the puck.
by J.J. from Kansas on Oct 31, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s what you saw? I saw a Datsyukian anti-dekes. Yes, a goalie pulling off crazy dekes to steal the puck from a deking skater.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Oct 31, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Pavel Datsyuk deserves wayyyyy more attention then he gets. In my opinion, he’s right up there with Crosby/Ovechkin. He musta been born with a hockey stick and a puck in his crib, and been deking since the age of 3; he’s that good…
Go for it
A portion not covered
The Associated Press article that got the bad headline/byline added isn’t terrible well-written either as far as it pertains to Datsyuk’s offensive abilities.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-predators-redwings
For people who know hockey, they know that the author means that Datsyuk usually gets his points via assists, but to a tired editor with minimal hockey knowledge who is up late and needs to get the story in, it does read kind of like Datsyuk usually doesn’t provide much offense.
Still, there’s no excuse for not fact-checking, especially when it’s a local paper dealing with a recap of a game for a local team.
by J.J. from Kansas on Oct 31, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
Same blurb was in the KC Star
That bastion of journalistic integrity that JJ and I get to see here in Kansas City.
It was good to see that the Wings/Preds got the only hockey headline there was in the Sunday Sports section, but wow….and don’t most (good) centermen have @ 2 times the number of assists as they do goals? Dats has 204 goals and 398 assists – so he’s almost right on the 2-1 ratio.
Smitty
Neither is backup goaltender Fernando Rodney.
//shudder//
The more that I think of it, the more I can see parallels between my Tigers and the Red Wings. :)
Random Ramblings from a Somewhat Scattered Mind
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
It's only true Fernando
If he blew a 4-0 lead first and then gave up three posts in overtime.
Random Ramblings from a Somewhat Scattered Mind
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Even more in the article
They later mention defensive-minded defenseman Brad Stuart. I understand when you have to clarify a D more involved with the scoring as offensive-minded, but I would think “defense-minded” would be implied otherwise.
Regular news ignores bloggers at their own peril.
While it’s rare to begin with bloggers can be the check and balance against news casters and other news outlets. It was blogger Charles Johnson of littlegreenfootballs.com who helped kick off Memo gate against Dan Rather but of course the role of bloggers was down played. Bloggers should take their victories where they can find them. Hell, twitter played a huge role in exposing Iranian government atrocities in their post election riots. China’s ruling party is also afraid of networking while President Obama used it to great effect for his election. Bloggers aren’t suppose to be the sole sourse for news; however, they do fill an important nitch and will continue to grow into their roles as an unique perspective in local, national, and world news.
DATSYUK THE DEFENSEMAN
THOSE PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH SHOULD STICK TO SPORTS THEY KNOW,LIKE NASCAR AND COLLEGE FOOTBALL.
and you should learn that the caps lock has an off feature.
by Casey Richey on Nov 1, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW
IT’S LIKE TALKING TO FOREIGNERS. AS LONG AS YOU ARE LOUD ENOUGH AND SPEAK SLOWLY, THEY UNDERSTAND ENGLISH PERFECTLY WELL, UNLESS THEY ARE STUPID.
BUT TO REALLY GET A POINT ACROSS YOU NEED EXCLAMATION POINTS, TOO!!! LOTS OF THEM!!!
Random Ramblings from a Somewhat Scattered Mind
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Errors and shitty reporting aren’t limited to the South.
Rob Otto from MLive helped touch off the last big Osgood debate after he crawled out from under his football rock long enough to look at the scoresheet from the Dallas game and decide that his second hockey article since June should be about how Osgood has no use as even a backup goaltender.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 1, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I know neither you or Casey are in Detroit, but if you guys are able to attend a game at some point at the Joe, I would recommend trying to get credentialed on a single-game basis. There are quite a few SB Nation hockey bloggers credentialed, including Dirk, myself, Fear the Fin, Hockey Wilderness, Broad Street Hockey, and others. It depends on how open your team is to it, but the worst they can do is say no, right?
We know we can do a better job than most of the msm, and in a lot of cases, the teams do too.
I would definitely consider that for sometime in the future. One of the things that would keep me away from it is that I am a very boisterous cheerer for the team. I know cheering’s not allowed in the press box and I can’t trust myself not to stand up and give a shout when somebody on the Wings pulls off an amazing play.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 1, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I know cheering’s not allowed in the press box
So that’s why Murph has been banished to between the benches.
Dancing Datsyuk Decidedly Dazzles Dainty Defensemen
by Robocop on Nov 1, 2010 2:14 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
probably also
Because he wouldn’t share his hip flask.
Random Ramblings from a Somewhat Scattered Mind
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Ozzie out 2-3 weeks
Joey Mac will continue to dress as backup. Thankfully, Howard is healthy again.
Dancing Datsyuk Decidedly Dazzles Dainty Defensemen
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