And Then There Were 23
There were a lot of happenings with the Red Wings yesterday, as the roster has finally been pared down to the 23 men that will take to the ice Friday night against the Ducks. As expected, there were few surprises, and if you've paid any attention to training camp and the games during this neverending preseason, you probably had a really good idea as to who was on the team, and who was headed down to Grand Rapids or just plain out of town. To me, the preseason felt like I was watching a game of musical chairs, except 22 guys spent the entire game sitting in their pre-determined seats, and I watched 2 guys run around and around, only to see one guy fall down and basically give the other guy the chair. Join me after the jump where I'll explain further and take a look at your 2010-11 Detroit Red Wings
Heading into training camp, the Wings were pretty much set in terms of 13 of their 14 forward spots, all 7 defenseman spots, and both goalies. The only battle for an actual job seemed to be between Mattias Ritola and Drew Miller for that coveted last forward spot, and based on their play this preseason, Miller won that hands down. Ritola was waived today, and immediately snatched up by Steve Yzerman in Tampa Bay, meaning that Ritola will be taking his talents down to Disney World to play along side Steve Stamkos. Look, can we be honest with each other for a second? This is not a big deal. Ritola will be at best a second line player in a few years, and if he was unable to even come close to beating out Miller for that last forward job, then I say good luck to him in Tampa. I have nothing personal against the guy; I just do not feel that he gives the Wings a better chance at winning right now than Miller does.In other forward news, Derek Meech and Kirk Maltby were waived today, and as of this writing had not been claimed by any team. Now, for Meech, this is the second time in less than a month that he has been waived, and it's extremely likely that he will not be claimed again. In all likelihood, he'll be in Grand Rapids to start the season, but could be called up due to injuries. However, if you read our BOLD predictions post, you'll know that I expect Meech to be a regular on an NHL team by the end of the year, and I stand by that. The bigger news is Maltby being sent down. Maltby's legacy and importance to the team have been better articulated elsewhere, and you'll get a preview of that later today in our Quick Hits section. The only thing I can say is that the Wings may have enjoyed success without Maltby, but his impact and importance to the team have always been understated, and only the most passionate and loyal of fans truly understand how he contributed to the team's success over the years. What he brought to the team could not be measured in terms of points, and you couldn't look at the scoresheet to see what impact he had on the game the night before. However, I truly believe that without Maltby on the team, the Wings do not get to the level they have been on for the last 15 years. I honestly hope that Maltby clears waivers and gets to Grand Rapids, because I think he is going to be a positive force on the Griffins, and when the Wings embark on their playoff quest for #12, he'll be up with the team ready to do whatever he can to get the Wings to their goal.
On defense, there was never a battle for a spot with the Wings; the battle has been for that coveted 6th defenseman spot. Right now, it appears that Jonathan Ericsson, despite being anywhere from mediocre to the worst player on the ice during preseason, has the inside track, as it's being reported in various places that he is going to start the season paired with Nicklas Lidstrom. After I picked myself off the floor, I thought that if anyone is going to be able to cover up Ericsson's mistakes, it's Lidstrom. Personally, I think Jakub Kindl has done more than enough to warrant a look early in the season when the games count, and I hope that if he does get in the lineup, he plays well, because my heart can't take another season of Ericsson's mental mistakes; I had to live through the "Lilja is awful" years once, and I'm not about to re-live that again. I'm not really going to get into the goalies, because it's been well-known for the entire pre-season that Jimmy Howard is the Wings' starting goaltender, and Chris Osgood will be backing him up. Don't be fooled by their numbers in the pre-season; both goalies acquitted themselves very well.
So, here's how your 2010-11 Detroit Red Wings are going to look Friday night. As always, lines are subject to change, but I think these are the combinations we are going to see for most of the season (barring injuries).
Henrik Zetterberg - Pavel Datsyuk - Tomas Holmstrom
Todd Bertuzzi - Valtteri Filppula - Johan Franzen
Dan Cleary - Mike Modano - Jiri Hudler
Darren Helm - Justin Abdelkader - Patrick Eaves
Alternates: Kris Draper, Drew Miller
Nicklas Lidstrom - Niklas Kronwall
Brian Rafalski - Brad Stuart
Ruslan Salei - Jonathan Ericsson
Alternate: Jakub Kindl
Jimmy Howard
Backup: Chris Osgood
Good gravy, when you type it out and look at that lineup, it just makes you giddy, doesn't it? Name another team in the NHL that can roll 4 lines like that game in and game out. That defensive corps is as good as anyone out there. And as long as Jimmy doesn't have an Andrew Raycroft-like crash, he'll keep the Wings in games they shouldn't be, and lead them to victory when the team in front of him is playing like they can. I can hardly wait, and it all kicks off Friday.
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Man oh man, I am excited about this season.
by J.J. from Kansas on Oct 6, 2010 7:08 AM CDT reply actions
Babcock is starting Ericsson with Lidstrom on the first pairing for the first game.
Lidstrom-Ericsson
Rafalski-Stuart
Kronwall-Salei
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/10/red_wings_pair_jonathan_ericss.html
I dont think
we need malts to get to that smaelevel, I think he has been a great impact but here soon we needed to start changing. The way the lines look this year I believe it was the best time to start this process…. I do also hope that he gets to grand rapids though, just in case im wrong.
Re-Entry Waivers
I am pretty positive that we can’t bring up Meech this year (Malts is a different case, slightly) because of the NHL’s re-entry waiver rule, otherwise known as the “Let’s duke the Red Wings as much as possible” rule.
The short of it: to come back to the team, either would have to pass through waivers again before they could join the Red Wings’ roster. These waivers are actually even worse, since if a team picks the player up, we would still have to count half of his NHL salary against our cap for the rest of the year.
So say the Red Wings find themselves with two injured defensemen in February, and want to bring up Meech. He would have to pass through every single team in the league first. Now you tell me: what is the likelihood that in February there won’t be a single NHL team who would take a young, back-end blueliner who projects as a solid NHLer at a cap hit of half of the minimum NHL salary? Zero. If we try to bring up Meech, all that will happen is the Red Wings will instantly lose $250K x [% of season remaining] of cap space, AND lose Meech for good.
With Malts, it’s a bit different, because if we are in a position where we need Malts, there is very little likelihood that any other team will want to pick him up. The same rules (half the cap hit covered by the Wings) apply, but Maltby has meaning to Detroit that he doesn’t have in another city. If he gets picked up by waivers, he would probably just retire rather than move his family. From other teams’ perspectives, grabbing someone else’s 40-year-old vet for a playoff run makes little sense. The only other use for him would be as an on-ice teacher, but every team had a shot at him already for that role, and turned it down. Suffice to say, it is highly likely that Malts could pass through re-entry waivers.
I would give you a purpose to such a stupid rule, but I have wracked my brain and cannot find one. I have a blog post to that end which I’ve been meaning to publish but haven’t yet. Suffice to say, it’s a rule only Gary Bettman could have come up with.
The dumbest rule in the entire world of sports is the NHL’s “intent to suck blow” rule. The second-dumbest rule in the entire world of sports is the NHL’s re-entry waiver rule. In this case, it will prevent Derek Meech from playing for an NHL team this year, unless Derek is traded to another team (that team could then pass him through regular waivers if they want to send him down).
L'Équipe! L'Équipe! L'Équipe!
Two-Way Deal
Maltby is on a two-way contract, he doesn’t have to clear re-entry waivers. Meech on the other hand is not and would need to clear re-entry waivers if he gets the call.
Meech
Given that he’s cleared waivers twice, I’m not overly concerned about another team picking him up. But, the Wings aren’t handicapped there because they already have 7 d-men with the big club, so it would require 2 being injured before we’d need a call up.
rrasco is right in that Maltby, being on a 2-way contract, does not have to clear re-entry waivers if he’s brought up. But here’s the million dollar question: if injuries do happen, and someone is needed, is he automatically the first forward called up?
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That's a myth on 2-ways.
2-way contracts don’t make you immune from re-entry waivers.
There used to be a clause (it’s now gone) that if you made under a certain dollar amount you were immune, and Maltby’s minor league contract is below that. Because most 2-way deals had different pay scales for if you were in the minors or NHL, this would effectively make 2-way contracts a way around re-entry waivers, i.e. a way for players who like the organization they are with and don’t want to be trapped in the minors for the organization’s fear of losing him to choose to make themselves available. This was seen by the NHL as a loophole to get around the league’s intent for the rule, which (the intent) is quite obviously to make hockey worse for the fans, players and teams.
L'Équipe! L'Équipe! L'Équipe!
No one would be dumb enough to grab Maltby. Just like no one was dumb enough to try and trade for Stevie when he was on the block ten years ago. Maltby, Drapes, Holmstrom, Lidstrom, and Ozzy are Wing lifers (yes, I know three of them have played for other teams. You know what I mean) and will retire Wings. Two of them will even have jerseys hung from the rafters of the Joe (Palace???) while the other three should at least get some sort of recognition ceremony when they do retire. If he does get grabbed, I doubt he’d ever report to the team. He’d probably take a job with the player development teams and work with Chelli.
I think Holland would pay the 250k to let Meech get on another team. He promised him a trade in the off season if he’d sign for league minimum and didn’t make it on the regular roster.
-Crater from SoCal
by Crater from SoCal on Oct 6, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions
Lilja - Bold Prediction #.... whatever # we're on now...
I said it last year when Lilja came back. I was wrong – look at the penalty kill #‘s before and after. I can’t count how many times I said to the TV – “c’mon Lilly – SKATE”, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Lilja on the roster at some point this season, and in the playoffs.
He came back and the PK #‘s went into the 90’s…before, just not there, no matter who else was paired with Nick (TPH).
Just a random bold prediction from the Heartland.
Smitty
so i guess maltby cleared waivers since i dont see any stories about it
and it is 4 hours past the deadline. I still value the guy for PK and drawing penalties on the other team. Hope he stays ready in GR for when we need him, and you know injuries will occur.
And I hope we dont see Ericsson paired with Lidstrom too much – last year it seemed the majority of Nick’s minuses in his +/- stat came when Ericsson was on the ice. That was unscientific observation though, i’d really like to see the actual stat.

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