Morning Skate: Is that a...tornado bird?
After an exciting, and at some moments horrible, outing against the Flames on Sunday, the Wings head to Atlanta to take on their first Eastern Conference opponent of the year. That's right friends, the Wings have done some major damage and picked up all of their points against Western Conference teams, now it's time to start bullying the East.
Atlanta's line-up features four members of the 2009-2010 Chicago Blackhawks team that won the Stanley Cup. As those familiar with the Chicago cap situation expected, the Blackhawks had to dump some major salary to accommodate Marian Hossa (now complete with Tomas Kopecky sidekick!). As a result, Ben Eager, Andrew Ladd, Dustin Byfuglien and Brent Sopel all ended up wearing baby blue jerseys this year and playing for a team that still has a lot of building to do in order to catch up with the Washington Capitals and now the Tampa Bay Lightning.
These four former Blackhawks have had a big impact on the team though so far as Byfuglien and Ladd lead the team in points. Detroit has a lot of familiarity with these four and Ladd has scored some big goals against the Wings while in Chicago.
Bird Watchers Anonymous is your SB Nation Atlanta Thrashers spot, go visit.
More after the jump
- I'm starting with this link because I can't let it go unseen
- Also, yes, I do know that it's not supposed to be a tornado bird but rather the state bird of Georgia
- Jimmy Howard will start in net again for Detroit. Jimmy's had a bit of a rough go of it lately, allowing 3+ goals in the last three games. Tonight, he faces an Atlanta team that has a fairly even scoring distribution.
- HOWEVER, Atlanta allows more shots than they take. With Detroit's propensity to fire on net often combined with their blueliners, Jimmy might have a good night.
- Interesting stat: Washington, Carolina, Tampa Bay and Atlanta are the 4,5,6,7th place teams (respectively) in the NHL in goals per game. All four of those are Southeast division members. The fifth member of the division, the Florida Panthers, is the only team that is in the better half of the league in goals against per game. Odd how that works, isn't it?
- Dustin Byfuglien has switched full-time to defense. He played some at that position in Chicago but was called on primarily to be a forward there. Of course, now that he's on defense and is producing some points, he'll be a lock for the Norris Trophy, according to the Mike Green logic.
- Good to see Ondrej Pavelec back in net. As you may recall, Pavelec collapsed in the season opener for the Thrashers. With hardly any insight as to what happened, it was a scary moment for fans around the league to see that happen. Pavelec was out until October 30, when he returned and lost four straight games. Recently, Pavelec has picked up two wins--including a shutout of the Capitals.
- The Thrashers have Patrice "Flying Olecranon" Cormier after the deal that sent Ilya Kovalchuk to New Jersey. Other Devils that went down to Georgia: Niclas Bergfors, Johnny Oduya, Charlie Daniels.
- Despite the Thrashers losing some lopsided games, Pavelec's GAA is a healthy 1.93. He's played some partial games and that's why the team GAA doesn't match up for those games. Last year Pavelec stopped 40 Red Wings' shots on the way to a shutout.
- Holy crap, Nik Antropov is 6'6", 240 lbs? For some reason, I've never noticed how big he is. He's one of 12 Thrashers over 6'2" and one of 8 over 210 lbs. By comparison, Detroit has 7 players at 6'2" or more and 6 over 210 lbs. Despite all that size, they are the fourth least hittingest (?) team in the league.
- Evander Kane was born in 1991. Nicklas Lidstrom was making his NHL debut in 1991. Lidstrom has been in the NHL for as many years as Kane has been alive.
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- Thrasher to watch: Dustin Byfuglien? Just to see what different weights they give him during the game. I'm interested to watch Anthony Stewart (whenever the hell I actually get to watch the game). Stewart's put up 5 goals and 6 assists this season and I've watched him the Thrashers play a few times this season (don't ask why because I honesty don't know) and his name kept popping up.
- Score Prediction: 2-1 Detroit. For some reason, I get that feeling that we'll do that thing we do where we overlook an opponent and we will struggle with the Thrashers. I hope the fellas prove me wrong though.
- Player of the game prediction: Dan Cleary, that jerk hasn't score in two games! Of course, this is assuming he plays.
- Finally, I leave you with the moment that solidified Evander Kane's spot among his fellow NHLers:
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I be there en vivo, with a "I Want Curly Fries" sign
Blatant Twitter Promotion, rarely updated, occasionally funny
oh yeah
4-2 Wings. Kronwall POG
Blatant Twitter Promotion, rarely updated, occasionally funny
by rock n rye on Nov 24, 2010 9:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ok, I'm gonna do it.
4-2 Thrashers, as Detroit’s bad habits catch up with them against a foe they overlook.
Todd Bertuzzi as the guy who looks the most like he gives a crap out there.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 7:21 AM CST reply actions
Yeah I was leaning toward that.
I mean I really do not want to predict the Wings losing, but I’m not feeling this one. 3-2 Thrashers with Franzen having a goal.
I thought about it
I almost picked a loss against Minnesota, and should have gone with my gut. It’s telling me that the Wings are going to struggle tonight against an opponent they may overlook a little heading in to their home-and-home with the BJs this weekend.
Still, I think somehow they overcome it and get a win tonight. I’m going to say 3-2 Wings with Valtteri Filppula looking sharp out there.
4-3 Atlanta
If we’re picking PotG from either team, I’m going with Andrew Ladd, if not, then I pick Justin Abdelkader.
The lackadaisical efforts in a lot of recent nights will catch up, especially since the Thrash is better than people realize. The only way I see the Wings overcoming it is with a big performance from Tiberius.
Not sure which way to go
Part of me agrees,we’ll overlook Atlanta and get beat 3-2,4-3…on the other hand I wonder if they realized how badly theyve been playing all over the ice the past 3 games. I think Im going to take a shot at Tiberius having to save our bacon early on,while the team wakes up (as usual of late) and we manage a 2-1 lead,add an empty netter for a 3-1 victory before the home-on-home series against the dirty blue jackoffs
I think
it will be a neck and neck, however I think we pull it off. Im going to say 4-3 wings with hudler getting one. The BJ’s always seem to be a wings spoiler, im saying they will be the next to beat us taking 1 of 2.
So let me get this straight.
-We are third in the league right now
-The two teams with more points than us (30 apiece) have played 4 more games than we have
-The defending champs are 7th in the conference, 4 points back, and have played 5 more games than we have
-We’ve actually played fewer games than any team in the freaking league (yay for five days rest)
-Holy shit Andrew Ladd was named captain after just 20 games with the team
-We haven’t even touched the Leastern Conference, yet.
-We are in one of the most impressive divisions ever assembled
-Holy shit Andrew Ladd was named captain after just 20 games with the team
It’s good to be a Wings fan, right now. Or an Andrew Ladd fan I suppose.
in a stretch where the Thrashers were playing really shitty hockey
(i think the coach got really pissed off), Ladd was apparently the only player giving any effort. hard to argue with the immediate returns: Atlanta’s 2-0 since he was named captain, and that includes a 5-0 beatdown of the supposed class of the division in the Washington Capitals.
the LA Kings SBNation blogger does a version of the standings he calls points blown that tries to correct the “official” standings for an uneven number of games played: at last check, the Blackhawks were 12th in the West
I did this in the comments of an off day open thread last week. All I did was points per game and it really painted quite the picture for the race in the West.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Nov 24, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
as of today they have moved up to 12th... barely
1. Detroit 1.56
4. Columbus 1.37
6. St. Louis 1.32
5. Los Angeles 1.30
2. Phoenix 1.29
3. Colorado 1.25
10. Minnesota 1.16
11. San Jose 1.16
8. Vancouver 1.15
12. Dallas 1.11
13. Nashville 1.11
7. Chicago 1.04
10. Anaheim 1.00
14. Calgary 0.85
15. Edmonton 0.70
You just got Kronwalled!
by DeathtotheHawks on Nov 24, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
If these paces keep up, the 8th place team will have 95-96 points. Holy shit.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Nov 24, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
That's not too uncommon anymore
The 8th place team in the West has had at least 95 points in 3 of the last 5 years.
i think we will lose a game this week
hopefully it is in OT and i rather it be against the East than against our division foe the Blue Jackets….so 4-3 Thrashers in a shootout
Goals by Zetterberg Mule and Kronner
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
Mule 1 goal 1 assist and a few big hits
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 24, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
Update on the Prediction Contest
With Datsyuk and Zetterberg sharing the limelight in the last game, we now have a clear front-runner after Red, White and a Mile High has grabbed the lead with a 2nd correct PoG prediction.
Also, Casey and I split on the Datsyuk/Zetterberg thing last game, so we’re tied for the bragging rights standings. Suck it, Graham.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 9:33 AM CST reply actions
“Suck it, graham”
Sounds like what you do when you have to soften graham crackers without the help of milk
by Casey Richey on Nov 24, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
When you say it out loud
it could be interpreted as “Suck it Gram,” which isn’t a nice thing to say to your grandmother.
I don’t know, I’ve seen some intense scrabble games.
by Casey Richey on Nov 24, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
According to MHH in a response they wrote to an article by the Chief over at A2Y, it’s exactly what Red Wings fans are expected to say.
You see? We think all Red Wing fans are just a bunch of stupid, granny-porn loving arsonists
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
have you ever seen a fanbase that so unnecessarily bitches and moans about the team they’re not even playing for another 4 weeks?
by Casey Richey on Nov 24, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
About 300 miles west-southwest of Detroit.
Dancing Datsyuk Decidedly Dazzles Dainty Defensemen
nah, they just bitch about the city, not the team.
by Casey Richey on Nov 24, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Truth
And they will claim to hate Red Wing fans more than the team.
I guess I should just go with obvious choices too, eh? I mean, it takes such a rocket scientist to pick one of the 3 best players on the team EVERY GAME. Way to think outside the box, JJ/Casey. ;)
by Amerinadian on Nov 24, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
we trying to win this bitty. even though we can’t win
by Casey Richey on Nov 24, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
You know
I almost took Filppula today, but changed it to Bertuzzi at the last moment. I want Flip to come out of his mini-slump where he’s doing a lot of things right, just either not doing them well enough or simply not getting rewarded for them.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
It helps keep the rivalry going. The hatred isn’t as rich as it used to be, but it’s still there.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
It's the fans more
The only rivalrly now is between the two fanbases. The teams themselves don’t have nearly the animosity towards each other now like they used to.
Oh, and Twitter is telling me to follow MHH and the Blackhawks. I immediately refreshed the browser to get rid of it.
by Amerinadian on Nov 24, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
And it’s more I hate Avs fans than I hate the Avs at this point.
All the douchebags have either been traded or retired (and Sakic was pure class through the whole thing anyway) so there’s just no one to really hate.
Their fans are just as classless as always though.
Dancing Datsyuk Decidedly Dazzles Dainty Defensemen
Evander Kane with a hat trick
5-3 Thrashers, prompting a “does Howard need a break?” discussion/ argument. Red Wings PotG: Lidström
1-0 (SO) Wings
Bertuzzi pulls out a spin-o-rama shootout goal for the win.
(note: I have Pavelec on my fantasy team and need him to have a decent game, but the wings better win.)
Were you drunk at your fantasy draft?
Or are there like 30 teams in your league?
Dancing Datsyuk Decidedly Dazzles Dainty Defensemen
Have you figured out what Dexter is doing with Lumen yet?
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Nov 24, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
Or Kyle Butler. One and the same. Robocop is hunting them down.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Nov 24, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
I have him too
Don’t understand why that’s a bad pick?
he just doesnt get lots of wins, but has a solid GAA and SV%
always a plus when a goalie can shutout the Capitals.
ALSO
This game is at 7:00 Eastern, not 7:30. You’ve been warned.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 10:12 AM CST reply actions
The Chalky Hearts will make their debut tomorrow night, don’t miss it.
by Casey Richey on Nov 24, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
It’s a real Seamus that you guys are so esoteric.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
“Seamus is here, hide the silverware. That thieving bastard took my whole surround sound set and slept with my wife.”
by Casey Richey on Nov 24, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but the motherfucker sure is the life of the party.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
I’m going to take a 3-1 win with Gator potting 2.
(If I keep picking him, I’ll be right eventually, right?)
Dancing Datsyuk Decidedly Dazzles Dainty Defensemen
Yes
Unless you pick Jason Williams… then you’ll never be right.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
There are a ton of movies I still want to see, but I’ll probably end up only getting to go to Harry Potter.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Apparently the only place I’m going is shopping very late Thursday/early Friday (depending on how you look at it). Oh, and putting up lights.
Being married with 2 kids is a ton of fun.
by Amerinadian on Nov 24, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
How dare you all go against the wings?!
They’ve hopefully learned their lesson from a couple close calls…
I’m sayin 4-1 Wings.. Bertuzzi POTG.
by kylegroombridge on Nov 24, 2010 11:31 AM CST reply actions
3-2 trashers, Holmstrom as POTG
eems like the kind of game that the Wings might snooze through, so let’s go counter on it.
I'm expecting 100% improvement from the Lions this season.
the lack of an "s" at the start of the comment was the only typo in that post
with typo being defined as non-deliberate error
I'm expecting 100% improvement from the Lions this season.
HEY!
GAME STARTS AT 7, DON’T BE LATE!
;)
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
haha I was looking through the comments to see if he had commented yet
I was going to do the same thing. ;)
5-3 Thrash.....Buckets
I have a bad feeling that this game will be high-scoring and go not in our favor. We’ve been getting too lucky as of late. I think we take a step back here, unfortunately.
Thrasher Fan Here
Please excuse the visit from an outsider. Look forward to seeing the Wings in town tonight. Your fans always show up strong in our house and, although very loud, are not rude and A-holes like some others. Look forward to a good hockey game.
As far as players and things to watch from the Thrashers, I would keep an eye on Alex Burmistrov (the kid can play) and Toby Enstrom (who is small and looks like a kid, but is a very effective D man). If you are a rough and tough fight kind of fan, then our "Greek gods" (I know it is silly) line of Slater, Boulton, and Thorburn may provide that. And if the Wings want someone to push around, try Bryan Little but not Evander Kane.
Good luck (after tonight)
by NoGloryWithoutGuts on Nov 24, 2010 12:51 PM CST reply actions
Thanks for stopping by
I’m definitely keeping an eye on Burmistrov. Any time I hear “models his game after Pavel Datsyuk” that’s reason enough for me to perk my ears up.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 24, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Welcome
I like the Thrashers due to the fact that I follow their farm team, the Chicago Wolves. It’s nice to see Pavelec doing really well for them, especially after his scare earlier this year. I’m really hoping that the Thrashers have finally got a good nucleus that they develop properly, because it would be nice to see them become a consistently good team and generate some really strong support down there in Atlanta.
And Burmistov is sick. That kid’s going to be good. I also love Kane and his game; he could be a newer version of Iginla.
Wings 3-2. Datsyuk POTG
Greg Devorski should be barred from officiating any Wings game ever again. The man is a disgrace.
by Mardiros Efendi on Nov 24, 2010 2:59 PM CST reply actions
my (jinx) prediction
Thrashers win, 3-2. Player of the game is Justin Abdelkader with hits galore.
Random Ramblings from a Somewhat Scattered Mind
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Gotta be optamistic.
4-2 Wings Datsyuk player of game
Anyone know if Homer is still on the 4th line for this game?

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