Quick Hits - 11/08
The Red Wings have no time to lick their wounds from the loss to the Canucks as they host the Winnipeg Coyotes tonight. We'll have your game thread up before game time. Let's see what's happening around the league.
Obsession With Suspensions - Chris at NOHS is tired of breaking down every single big hit and wondering whether it is a "good" or "bad" hit. He's pointing a finger squarely at both the MSM and blogs as being to blame for questioning all the hits in the NHL. He feels there should be responsibility on the player being hit to keep their head up, and wonders if we can eliminate the controversy surrounding these hits and enjoy them as good hockey plays.
Muzzle of Bees - The Dude over at Gorilla Crouch breaks down the Wings' recent 3-game Western Canada road trip, and looks specifically at SOG in each period. 23 given up to the Canucks in the third period? Yikes. Nice note questioning the scratching of Patrick Eaves against the NHL's best PP unit, but maybe that ankle needed a night of rest.
Caption Mondays Volume 3 - Kris from SSDD is back with another installment of her caption contest. This one involves Henrik Zetterberg and Doug "Griffin" Janik. Go on over and have some fun with this.
He's Baaaaaaaaaaack - I'm not sure if I put enough "a"'s into the title, but I lost count due to my bad eyes. Jeff from BSI offers up a preview of the game tonight with the emphasis on Brian Rafalski getting back in the lineup. He also gives us a quick recap of the Griffins' weekend and summarizes a recent game he was involved in that garnered him some attention. Head on over and check it out.
Around the NHL:
Ciccarelli, James and Granato set to be inducted into HHOF - Here is TSN's writeup of the induction of former Red Wings pest Dino Ciccarelli into the HHOF. Also inducted were the first two women, Angela James and Cammi Granato, and a guy we affectionately refer to as "Jimmy D" around here.
Making Hockey Hall of Fame votes public: valid or voyeurism? - Speaking of the HHOF, Puck Daddy has an interesting piece on the voting process that goes on and asks the question on whether the voters and/or votes should be made public. A lot of this stems from the controversy surrounding Dino's induction at the exclusion of Doug Gilmour and Pavel Bure, not to mention the case that Pat Burns should have gotten in while he's still alive, especially since it seems like he's going to get in anyway.
Hey Former Avs, How You Doin'? - I'll admit it: I visited an Avs site. They have a little feature where they look at some recently departed players to see whether they are missed by the team. Honestly, there's not a guy on the list that they need immediately, but they do rag on Salei a little for only having 2 points (newsbreak: he wasn't signed for his offense) and use the obligatory "Dead Things" in a post. How original. Also, did you know this site considers Ray Bourque to be the 8th greatest Av of all-time? Above Claude Lemieux? Laughable, although Mike Ricci made the list, so you get a sense as to how "great" the Avs history has been.
NHL vs NBA Secondary Ticket Prices - Great piece by Mike Chen at From the Rink that looks at attendance. This is done through "secondary" (i.e. the non-official team ticket broker and scalpers) sources. He looks at the major hockey and basketball markets, and it's very interesting to note how the hockey teams compare to the basketball teams in the city. Good stuff as always from Mike.
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Wait up a minute
You think Lemieux was better than Bourque? I thought Red Wings fans were supposed to hate Lemieux. Besides, Bourque gets a little boost in any list from Avs fans because we have good memories of him from the 2001 Cup campaign. Ricci is there because he is awesome. Maybe not the best player ever, but he’s just a cool dude. Some of those guys might eventually get bumped off by the likes of Stastny, Duchene, Stewart, Anderson, etc. And you could have at least mentioned that it’s a Top 19 list. That’s the best part.
PS, since the Wings-Jets game is the only one in the league tonight and I
m not a member of the the Yotes blog, I’ll be posting in your game thread. I know you’ll welcome me with friendly greetings and absolutely no grief about the Avs.
MHH: Mr. Howard, Doctor Jones will see you now.
I know you’ll welcome me with friendly greetings and absolutely no grief about the Avs.
Whether you have to hear any talk about the Avs is entirely up to how you behave in the game thread. Just remember that passive aggression is still aggression and it will not stand, man.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 8, 2010 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
Although I take no responsibility for the behavior of my fellow MHHers.
The only stereotypical joke I might need to hit on is the “Bertuzzi is a douchebag” thing, but that really has less to do with the Wings and more to do with the fact that I hate Bertuzzi.
MHH: Mr. Howard, Doctor Jones will see you now.
It's not that I like Lemieux
It’s just that it would seem that he did far more for the franchise than Bourque did. Since I assume this is about what each player did while in an Avs uniform, if it were me, I’d rank Lemieux higher. I guess it’s all part of the joke on the Avs that they put Bourque on such a high pedestal when he was only there for a very short time (and yes, I’m aware of his contributions to the Cup run of 2001). This would be like Wing fans thinking Mike Vernon was the greatest Red Wing goalie of the last 20 years.
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We do..
And Bourque was a much better player than ol’ turtle toes. Not even on the same level, if you ask me.
STAND TALL, FLY STRAIGHT, USA ALL THE WAY!
by DetroitALLtheWay09 on Nov 9, 2010 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
RAFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIII
We missed you.
Go for it
Damn
I want to make some stuff to post later but Photoshop REALLY doesn’t want to open…
MHH: Mr. Howard, Doctor Jones will see you now.
Yeah... BUT
Ray Bourque was a wayyyyy better over-all player than Ol’ Claude “the turtle who doesn’t even deserve the last name” Lemieux. Hands down. And that alone should put him higher on the list. I think “greatest avs of all time” is a bit different than just “contributions” to the team. Basically, he could have been there a short time.. but was one of greatest players to wear the jersey type thing. Detroit for example: Brett, Luc and hopefully.. Mo. I guess by default, maybe?
Wouldn’t be suprised by the Av’s, if Sakic wasn’t even #1… haha. …That would be sad. And wonder where Roy was on the list?
STAND TALL, FLY STRAIGHT, USA ALL THE WAY!
by DetroitALLtheWay09 on Nov 9, 2010 11:43 PM CST reply actions
If you're looking at it that way, then fine.
But if you look at it by contributions to the team, then shit’s all screwed up. If I’m ranking the greatest Wings of all time by what they did for the team, Maltby is above both Hull and Robitaille in my book.
Claude Lemieux won a Conn Smythe in Colorado… a well-deserved one. Ray Bourque got his number retired by a club grasping at straws for history. The turtling bitch doesn’t deserve any respect outside of Denver, but MHH isn’t outside Denver.
by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 10, 2010 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
Here's my issue
It’s the “greatest Avs” of all time – was Bourque really one of them? Was he “better” than Lemieux (forget about the way Lemieux played and consider his talent) while part of the Avs?
Think about it this way: if you’re ranking “Greatest Red Wings Ever”, do Brett Hull and Luc Robitaille make the list? How about Dino? They were great players who wore the Winged Wheel, but in my mind, they were not “great Red Wings” if that makes any sense. Before someone enters that category, they need to have done something for the team to contribute to the overall success over a decent period of time, not 1-2 seasons.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to go take a shower since I actually defended the turtle.
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