CSSI Analysis: Red Wings 0 - Kings 5
Not much for pluses to give out on this one; the Wings could not solve Quick and simply lost it in the third. Credit to Kings goaltender Jonathan Quick for an outstanding 51-save shutout, as he was clearly the player of the night. The Wings had some opportunities to get pucks by him, but either couldn't get the shots up or were met with goalsticks from nowhere to stone them.
The Wings got three power plays and if you read the title of the post, you know how that went. Unfortunately, their penalty kill went 1-for-2 while Justin Abdelkader was serving the second two minutes of his double-minor for hitting Rob Scuderi in the face. Drew Doughty put up three assists after Babcock said God touched him. Perhaps for the next game, we can tell Babcock to say that God touched Jiri Hudler so he'll stop touching himself.
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Goalie Ratings
Jimmy Howard gave up five goals and had a save percentage of .808, so I'll let you guess what that means for his rating. He was only tested to the tune of one big save, and that wasn't until the third period. I did count the first goal against him as weak though. Still, looking back on the rest of the season, I can't give him a minus rating, essentially calling this the worst tended game of the year by a Wings netminder though, because I don't think it was. I'm going to give him an even rating while reminding everybody that on the scale we've established for goaltenders this year, being at a +0 is terrible.
Scoring and plus/minus adjustment after the jump.
The Goals1st Period 13:27 - Los Angeles Goal: Wayne Simmonds (wrist shot) from Matt Greene and Alexei Ponikarovsky
The Kings dump the puck high at Ericsson and push it into the zone behind him. Rig later gains possession, but a clearing attempt up the boards ends up on Greene's stick for a dump back in that Handzus gets and passes behind the net to Ponikarovsky. Ponikalonglastname passes back up to Green who floats a rainbow wrister at Howard through much less traffic than I remember seeing live. Howard completely flubs this rebound, which ends up right on Simmonds' stick. Simmonds taps this under Howard as he moves to adjust. Bertuzzi's doing his job the whole time here and won't get a minus. The bad goal by Howard will clear Rafalski's minus and half of Franzen's minus. Both of these guys had a chance to keep Simmonds from putting the rebound home (Franzen more a chance than Raffi), but Howard simply can't put a soft shot like that directly out in front. Despite the bad goal, I'm going to let Ericsson and Filppula keep their minuses. I think both of them could have hustled better to prevent this entire scoring play.
Penalty Adjustment: at 7:30, Alec Martinez trips Todd Bertuzzi as punishment for shooting a slapshot at his feet just moments prior. This isn't really a hustle play by Bertuzzi so much as it's bad stick work by Martinez. After that power play expires though, Danny Cleary shows Mr. Martinez what a hustle play leading to a penalty really is and draws the guy back into the box. Cleary gets a plus.
2nd Period 13:39 - Los Angeles Goal: Oscar Moller (wrist shot) from Kyle Clifford and Drew Doughty
A Red Wings line change allows the Kings to get the puck in and retain possession. Drew Doughty gets it at the boards while Miller steps on and tries to establish his position on the ice. The Kings' defender moves to the center of the ice at the blue line and releases a slap shot that's tipped on Howard by Clifford. The redirection is enough for the puck to find a little hole for the puck to trickle through on Jimmy. The puck trickles behind on its way wide, but Moller is the guy on the spot to slam it home. Moller has position on Stuart here for a puck that's behind Howard, but not for a rebound out front. Stu can't cover every one of the angles. Clifford's deflection means this isn't a bad goal, but I don't think anybody on the ice made a particularly noticeable gaffe to earn any extra punishment. No scoring adjustment on this play.
3rd Period 00:23 - Los Angeles Goal: Anze Kopitar (wrist shot) from Dustin Brown and Justin Williams
Carrying the puck out of the Wings' zone after a faceoff, Brad Stuart tries joining the rush and has a slight miscommunication with Henrik Zetterberg. Stu loses the puck in the neutral zone to Kopitar, who pokes it to Williams. The non-vanilla Williams finds Dustin Brown streaking toward the far post and finds him. Before LIdstrom, as the only man back, can get on him, Brown puts a shot on Howard that he kicks straight to Kopitar for the easy put-away goal. First, I'm clearing Lidstrom's minus. He's the only man back and doesn't have much of a chance. I'm also going to clear Holmstrom's minus; Homer's job is to rush up the ice on possession to help create separation as he makes defenders cover. Both Stuart and Zetterberg will get an extra minus. Their communication mix-up causes this turnover and coverage issue. Datsyuk will keep his minus simply because he needed to stop the Williams pass to Brown and didn't.
3rd Period 2:59 - Los Angeles Goal: Anze Kopitar (slap shot) from Drew Doughty
A Kings' icing is waived off as Brad Stuart gets beaten to the puck by Alexei MyLittlePonikarovsky. Poni feeds a backhand to Kopitar on the other side of the net behind the goal line, who tries a pass to Handzus in the slot that's broken up Zetterberg. Z quickly gets it over to Datsyuk, who tries to feed it back to him for a rush up ice, but the two don't connect. The puck ends up on Doughty's stick, as he takes a slap shot aimed directly at the mélange of body parts now known as Branze Stupitar. It bounces off the two-man combination and into the net, where Kopitar is credited with putting the Kings up 4-0. Nobody is cleared of a minus here, as everybody had a chance to block something. Stuart, Datsyuk, and Zetterberg all receive extra minuses. Stu is late turning to retrieve the puck and loses the icing because of it. Datsyuk and Zetterberg usually get away with being cute in their own end, and when they do, there's no special mention of it. Unfortunately, when they fail, they get extra punishment for a turnover that leads directly to a goal.
Penalty Adjustment: By now, I'm pretty sure it's clear to all but the most meth-addled minds out there that the Wings aren't digging themselves out of this hole, but that doesn't excuse Justin Abdelkader from trying to play John Travolta to Rob Scuderi's Nic Cage in 'Face/Off' with his stick. Abdelkader gets a minus.
3rd Period 6:03 - Los Angeles Goal (PP): Jack Johnson (slap shot) from Drew Doughty and Dustin Brown
Almost 3/4ths of the way through the double minor, the puck is dumped around behind Howard with Datsyuk pinching in low to help Ericsson out. Pavel comes up with the puck, but it tripped up by Handzus with no call. With Zetterberg as the only standing forward, the Kings move the puck around to the other side of the ice through a Brown to Doughty to Johnson passing play. Johnson is nearly to the top of the faceoff circle when he unleashes a slap shot past Howard. I'm not making any scoring adjustment here.
Bonus Ratings
+1 to Jiri Hudler: I don't know what the hell I'm doing either here, but he played 15 minutes and for long stretches also looked like the best Wings player out there. Five shots on goal leaves me little room to scream "SHOOT THE DAMN PUCK!" and, if not for a fantastic job getting a stick into the lane a the last second by a Kings' defenseman, Hudler sets up Helm for a beauty of a goal.
Honorable mentions: I thought the Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi line had good jump, but again, they ended the night with a minus rating and nothing to show on the offensive scoresheet. I've noticed that although Filppula is the center on this line, when they're in the defensive zone they have Franzen doing the center's work down low while Flip covers the point. I'd like to see them switch this up. I know Filppula's the fastest guy on this line, but Franzen's getting burned over and over on defensive assignments in front of the net. Dan Cleary had seven shots on goal and looked fairly good, but I'm not letting anybody finish a 5-0 blowout loss as a +2 on the adjusted scoresheet, especially when he had a couple great second-chance opportunities down low that he didn't capitalize on.
St. Louis on Wednesday. We'll see if the Quickie Monster's attack on our team scoring is going to carry over to another well-goaltended team.
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Based on the ratings scale where +4 is a fantastic outing
I’d say I’d have a hard time not giving him +6 or better. Many of those chances were of very high quality and even though there were plenty that weren’t, there’s a matter of how well a guy can stand the mental and physical wear of 51 shots against without letting one by. I wasn’t counting his big saves, but just thinking back on all the “ahhh fuuuuck” moments, I think a +4 would be mildly insulting for the kind of game he had.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 14, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions
"The puck ends up on Doughty's stick, as he takes a slap shot aimed directly at the mélange of body parts now known as Branze Stupitar."
“mélange” gives that description +500 in classy points.
Stuart screwed up twice on their 4th goal. He coughed up the puck at the blueline, then just stopped backchecking to allow Kopitar to pick up the rebound. On one of the replays you can see him stop skating and just coast, allowing Kopitar to get ahead of him. I watched it and thought, “there’s at least an extra -1 to his CSSI”
I toyed around with giving him a -1.5 on that play. He ended the night at an adjusted -4. I hope this was Brad Stuart’s worst game of the season.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 14, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions
What a pisser that game was. LAK couldn’t have had much more then 5 minutes of possession, even with the 4 minute powerplay, and they still manage 5 goals.
I’m surprised you didn’t give Howard a negative rating for this one. I agree they weren’t all bad goals, but his rebound control was atrocious. Frankly, i would have liked to see no rebounds on several of the shots taken considering, rather than him try to kick them out.
I didn’t realize Hudler had 5 SOG. Although, there were a few instances where he could have had more. But again I agree he had a strong game, and as one of 2 officially even players, deserved the +
Not only was Quick phenomenal, but the Kings did an excallent job of controlling the area in front of the crease. Quick gave up a lot more rebounds than the stat sheet would suggest, but the Kings either beat the wings to them, or were able to tie up sticks long enough for Quick to recover. Maybe one of you fellas with a fancy DVR could take a quick look and confirm/deny my recollection here, but it seemed as if LA always had 3 guys in front of the net.
by Red, White and a Mile high on Dec 14, 2010 10:11 AM CST reply actions
Can you really count Howard's "big save" in the 3rd?
Unless it happened when the game was still within reach at 2-0 or 3-0, I don’t think you can really count it. I think you’ve done that in the past.
It would make him -1 on the night. Maybe I’m just fishing for a way to blame Howard because he wasn’t Quick last night. Regardless, the +0/-1 rating means he was a non-factor, which is never good out of a goalie.
Ugh, these are the worst games to watch. You could tell the Wings were getting flustered that nothing was going in last in the 2nd period, as a ton of players were shooting everything and anything on Quick…I recall at least a handful of zero-angle shot attempts. Generally shots are good, however when said goalie is standing on his head and you haven’t scored on your first 30 shot attempts, you need to change your attack mode. Of course, I can’t blame the Wings too much, Quick was simply phenomenal last night and the Wings haven’t been stymied like that by a goalie in forever. It was bound to happen at some point…just glad it’s now and not in the playoffs…
I tried doing it in the past
and the commenters talked me out of it.
I really struggled with the concept of making him a minus, considering I haven’t done that yet to a goalie and I don’t think this was the worst-goaltended game of the season for the Wings.
However, if there’s enough spite to go around, I’ll change the rating to a -1. I don’t like the way Howard played. Let me know in the replies whether you think I should change it or not.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 14, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
holy reply fail...
Yeah, I was one of those who talked you out of not counting a good because of poor performance earlier in the game (this came up after Ozzie’s 3-goal shit-the-bed 1st period back in Oct.). The logic was: by doing this you are basically counting the bad part of the goalie’s performance twice.
I think an even rating provides an accurate comparison of Jimmy’s performance last night to other performances this year (remember, this is all relative).
You could tell the Wings were getting flustered that nothing was going in last in the 2nd period, as a ton of players were shooting everything and anything on Quick…I recall at least a handful of zero-angle shot attempts. Generally shots are good, however when said goalie is standing on his head and you haven’t scored on your first 30 shot attempts, you need to change your attack mode.
Exactly, they were taking tons of shots from the perimeter and bad angles. They were not controlling the net front. Yes, some players got to the net front occassionally, but not for long and they never controlled that part of the ice.
by Red, White and a Mile high on Dec 14, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Recalls memories of past round 1 exits...
Like I said, it’s good this happened now and not in the playoffs. It’s a nice reminder to our Wings that shots don’t equal goals. And that they have to really crash the net if they want to score on a hot goalie.
I guess in regards to not counting a big save
If you’ve ever read an “upon further review” for football, when each play is reviewed and plusses or minuses are rewarded to players on each play (which is similar to this CSSI thingy). In those, they have “garbage time” drives that aren’t charted at all because, well, it’s garbage time and isn’t reflective of the play.
My only take would be at what point can you consider a hockey game out of reach? That’s extremely subjective and dependent on game-to-game basis, but in general after that 4th goal in the 3rd, I would consider the rest “garbage time”. I guess that’s where my reasoning is coming from in regards to possibly not counting a big save. Then again, that would also mean you couldn’t count a bad goal either at that point…something to think about, that’s all.
Maybe I’m wrong but I think the one big save was at the beginning of the third period, when it was still in reach. They just scored immediately afterward so it seemed a little watered down.
by Casey Richey on Dec 14, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
I seem to recall that as well
by Red, White and a Mile high on Dec 14, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
OK, then I have no problems with it.
Still a rating of 0 from the goalie isn’t good.
Respectfully disagree on the first goal
That whole play started because Franzen inexplicably turned the puck over in the offensive zone by trying to either pass or direct something at the net (couldn’t tell which). If he just gets the puck deep or makes a better pass (I don’t know that there was one, though) the Wings have, at best, a chance to keep play in the offensive zone, or worst case scenario, force the Kings to break out from behind their own net as opposed to starting out from near the top of the faceoff circle. Thus I would have probably given Franzen a -2 on the play, retaining the original and adding another for the flub.
Just a thought. Thanks and keep up the good work.
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by Mardiros Efendi on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 PM CST reply actions
The offensive zone turnover wasn’t so inexplicable as to make me yank on my hair. He had a good idea, it was just unfortunate execution. His coverage in the defensive zone was actually pretty decent (although not decent enough to prevent Simmonds from getting a stick on what really was a terrible, horrible rebound). Personally, I almost gave Filppula a minus 1.5 for his play at the points because I barely saw him move his feet at all and if he does a better job with the pinch at the point, the subsequent dump-in and cycle back around to Greene for that weak wrister doesn’t happen. Flip got a break because Howard made the biggest mistake of all with the way he handled what was a floater of a shot.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 14, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
be honest
if it had been Osgood who lost 5-0, don’t you think there’d be people today calling for him to be traded or retire or so forth?
I would have pulled howard after 4. But by then, the game really didn’t have my full attention.
There definitely would be
I would not be amongst them, for many reasons. Likewise, I’m not calling for Jimmy’s head and starting my “this season is over” posts
by Red, White and a Mile high on Dec 14, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
You're probably right
My response to those overreactions would be to ask how anybody would expect Osgood to win with the Red Wings putting a goose egg on the board.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 14, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
You could have had a Roy/Sawchuk/Brodeur lovechild in goal.
That’s not going to do anything to get a puck past Quick last night.
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