With Datsyuk out "about four weeks", what's next?
The news that all Red Wings were cringing to hear was announced by Mike Babcock as Pavel Datsyuk will be out about four weeks with a broken wrist. Here's what Mike Babcock had to say on it, via redwings.nhl.com:
"He's got a broken hand or wrist, or something like that," Red Wings coach Mike Babcock said. "He'll be out about four weeks."
Datsyuk broke his wrist after being tripped up by former teammate Mikael Samuelsson in the first period. He landed awkwardly and unfortunately broke his wrist. He came out after the fall and played the next shift he was given but he didn't take the face-off. Datsyuk left after the first period but didn't return to the game and after the game the extent of his injury was revealed, much to the chagrin of Wings' fans.
After the jump, we've got video and screengrabs as well as the discussion.
Here's the video via NHL.com:
Here's the first still I grabbed from the video and you can see how Samuelsson trips up Datsyuk:
In this one you can see Datsyuk landing on his wrist.
Yikes.
The biggest question now is what to do with the line-up as the Wings are down to 12 forwards and six defensemen. We now get to the part that will probably get outdated as soon as I post this because news of the plans will probably break after I post this and go to bed.
But anyway, speculating is fun so here are some scenarios that the Wings may look at:
- They do absolutely nothing. They play things tight with the roster and hope that nothing happens. Jakub Kindl is back up to the Red Wings after his stint with the Grand Rapids Griffins. I was talking with JJ about this after the game and if necessary, do the Wings move Jonathan Ericsson to forward and Kindl to his spot? I think it'd be neat to see that but I also think Ericsson's playing pretty good defensively right now and don't want to shake that up. Likelihood they do nothing: 4/5. While it would be good to give Draper, Hudler or Miller or whoever a break, it's pretty much the Holland M.O. to make do and why not?
- The Wings call up Ilari Filppula. Ilari scored a pair of goals in tonight's Griffins' win and is one of the offensive leaders for Grand Rapids at this point of the season. Of course, as every Red Wings' fan can guess by his last name, he's the brother of Valtteri Filppula so maybe Babcock puts them on a line together and we see some Filppula to Filppula plays out there. Likelihood they call up Ilari: 3/5. I think I read these stipulations correctly and if I did, Filppula is exempt since he is in the first year of his contract and that's the threshold for players 25+ years of age.
- The Wings call up Tomas Tatar. Like Filppula, Tatar has been one of the offensive leaders and is one of those players that a lot of Detroit fans are sitting there licking their chops at the amount of potential this kid has. I personally think he's capable of performing decently at the NHL level, although I'd expect he only gets press box time if he does get the call. Likelihood they call up Tatar: 2/5. Like I said on Ilari, I think I read it correctly and Tatar would be able to go up and down without having to clear waivers.
The Wings trade for Ville Leino.
What say you folks? Do the Wings stand ground on the roster or make a move with a Griffin?
Also, if you know the call-up procedures better than I (it's not hard) then feel free to clarify things for everyone.
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Big E has been solid on D so..
he’ll probably stay there although it would be fun to see him play forward (kind of like buffglien(sp?) but the other way around). I expect drapes centering the fourth line and helm moving up to the third.
I believe Ilari is indeed exempt, being a first year player..
according to that article. With Datsyuk missing at least the 10game/24 days requirement, we could use Long-Term Injury Cap Space to bring him up, right?
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We actually don't need it
We have enough cap space from Modano to bring up anybody from the minors.
They probably won’t put Datsyuk on LTIR if they don’t have to because if some Christmas miracle happens and he’s ready to go in a couple weeks, LTIR forces them to keep him out for 24 days or 10 games minimum.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 23, 2010 6:55 AM CST up reply actions
well then thats a horse of couple colors
1.) I don’t believe in miracles.
2.) I completely forgot about Modano.
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Call up Meech - (if contract allows) experiment with him/bigE at forward switch
Personally I’d love to see Illari
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)
Meech would have to clear re-entry waivers
he’d certainly get claimed.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 23, 2010 6:55 AM CST up reply actions
He’s cleared waivers twice already since the end of last season. I doubt he’d be claimed.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Dec 23, 2010 8:17 AM CST up reply actions
He's cleared waivers
… but not re-entry waivers. There is a HUGE difference.
Send-down waivers give a team the opportunity to claim a guy’s full salary and cap hit.
Re-entry waivers give a team the opportunity to claim a a guy at half the salary can cap hit, while the team from which he’s claimed is on the hook for the other half.
Meech will absolutely get claimed if they try to pass him through re-entry waivers.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 23, 2010 8:22 AM CST up reply actions
i agree
that he will get claimed if he goes through re-entry since the season is in full swing now and folks are injured, unlike at the beginning of the season when he went down.
by Casey Richey on Dec 23, 2010 8:25 AM CST up reply actions
Wasn’t aware there was a difference. I always assumed that you absorbed the entire cap hit regardless of when you got them.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Dec 23, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
yea thats what i was afraid of w/ Meech - thanks for the info JJ
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)
I'm guessing the do-nothing approach
(obviously)
Since Tatar and Ilari are both still waiver-exempt, they can basically keep skating with Grand Rapids while being our healthy scratches for the big club. I know that practice time with the guys would help them, but I don’t like the concept of calling either of them up if they aren’t going to play any games, since we have 12 healthy forwards right now.
If the need for another warm body to fill a lineup gap pops up, they can be called up to play. If that gap only lasts one game, they can be sent back down immediately without threat of losing them.
Personally, I’d go with Ilari over Tatar because everything I’ve read about him is that he’d be better suited for the low-minute energy-line playing time that I think we’d need. Although, it might be interesting to see them bring up skill guy Tatar and see if he can shine his ass off in a playmaking role with the big guys…
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 23, 2010 7:02 AM CST reply actions
Don't do anything
Bringing up Tatar or Ilari will not fill the void that is left by Pav’s absence, but they should only be called up in case of a dire emergency (someone else gets hurt). I would put Zetterberg between Franzen and Holmstrom, Flip between Bert and Cleary, and then stabilize the third and fourth lines. The Wings scored 4 goals last night against one of the better teams in the West after Dats got hurt.
When I read the Freep...
I think I read Holland said he wasnt gonna do anything. Of course, it could be wrong, but this seems to be the most sensible approach, considering we already have 12 forwards that are ready to play.
Go for it
nothing for now...
Agree with nothing for now, to give the 12 forwards already there a chance to play instead of watching from the press box (meaning Eaves and Miller trading off) as they’ve been playing well enough that deserve the chance. Especially since GR is only a couple hours away and they could have Filp2 or Tater there quickly is better to let them keep playing rather than they ride press box even considering it would be good for them to practice a bit with the team before being thrown into a game.
by wingsluver4ever on Dec 23, 2010 7:01 PM CST reply actions
What's next?
Cleary is out 4 weeks with a broken ankle.
Next time you have a question like “Datsyuk is hurt, what’s next?” Keep it to yourself, mmmkay?
by PaulinMiamiBeach on Dec 27, 2010 12:38 PM CST reply actions

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