Overflow thread: Kings/Wings
by Casey Richey on Feb 6, 2010 4:39 PM CST
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Wings have blown a 3 goal lead and knotted up at 3 heading into the third and final period, which team will emerge?
The one from the 1st period or the lazy one from the 2nd period.
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Rather have the win
Both would be swell, though
by Michael Petrella on Feb 6, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
LA feed thinks Kings are doing well because Heidi took her RED sweater off
stop bothering the poor girl and let her wear the red awesomeness.
what jackasses
I can’t even see the feed and I hope she goes up and kicks them in the nads for being pervs during the intermission.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
I went to read Blue Jays news to make me feel better. Then I read who we’re platooning for first base and I got even sadder.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 4:41 PM CST reply actions
Filppula with the obvious
“They were better in the second period.”
Silly question, Trev.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Thing about that period that sucked the most is just the standing around by the guys. the first and third goals were just players standing there not attacking the puck
Didn't they geet blown up by Colorado later?
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
I refuse to watch. I cried that night.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
well, on the bright side
Just 20 minutes of effort and this might be a win!
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Man, the Kings have
5 come from behind wins in their last 8. Of course we were screwed.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 4:48 PM CST reply actions
they finally have a good team for a change
Sucking for a few years can pay off eventually.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
The Wings just laid back and let the Kings give it to them.
Ive said it once and I’ll say it again….. I love you Larry Murphy.
we need the full two points here
i know that’s an obvious statement but the full two points ties us with Calgary before the Wings play STL
Wow, we only have 12 shots this game.
Seriously, what the hell is the matter with us.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 4:49 PM CST reply actions
Shades of Pittsburgh, ugh.
I want to vomit. That may be the lingering effects of food poisoning, or because of how bad they are.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
Also, more on Holmstrom
From George Malik: more info
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 4:51 PM CST reply actions
Harmless shot
No good. Work for the chances.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 4:54 PM CST reply actions
I think that does it.
With Eaves gone, we officially are completely screwed.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 4:56 PM CST reply actions
what's wrong with Eaves?
was he knocked into the boards? i vaguely remember that, but that’s about it…
Yeah...
Unless we’re thinking of separate incidents, it was DEFINITELY Miller that was hurt blocking a shot.
by Michael Petrella on Feb 6, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, it's both of them
I am still glad Ville is gone.
blocked a shot with his foot
I’m calling broken foot, because that would be just like this season.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
All right, if both those guys are out long term
We have to make a trade, because this is ridiculous.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 4:59 PM CST reply actions
with a puck to the foot
It seems to be more damaging than anything else.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Let me get this straight
We end the second period giving up 3 goals and lose Homer, Eaves, and Miller. Maybe we should have just skipped the second.
would have been in a better position
if they just conceded the three goals and told LA that they could start the third period tied.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
The LA guys suck at their job
Absolutely no reporting on the injuries at all.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:00 PM CST reply actions
Big time faker is more like it
Check out the replay, stick in the hands and Betuzzi acts like he got one in the chops…the guy is such a jackass…
by KingsBeatWings on Feb 6, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
It won't be as bad as the CHicago game I went to.
Holy shit, our top line was Bert-Dats-Homer. Needless to say, we sucked,
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
We seriously need to trade for someone.
Like, there’s just nothing left if all these guys are gone for a long time.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:02 PM CST reply actions
let's not get ahead of ourselves
who knows the extent of the injuries at this point. Eaves foot could just be swollen too badly to put the skate on, swelling could go down etc.
You should NEVER take the skate off
Unless, of course, it’s super serious. But I broke eight toes in boots. You just suck it up and finish the game because once that boot comes off, you’re done for the day. HAHA
by Michael Petrella on Feb 6, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
their only option though
Is to play the young guys from the Griffins, or trade the Griffins for other guys for now.
I’d honestly rather see them play the young guys.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
I’d rather pull an Oilers when they traded for Nedved to try to make the playoffs. Why not? At this point, we need something.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
And lose all the young players that the team wants to introduce into the lineup for the next few years?
If they can’t stay healthy it doesn’t matter, they likely are done in the first round anyway, so if you are going to have a quick exit and an early offseason you may as well not trade away the depth you will be counting on for the next few years, but take advantage of the extra six weeks, get everyone healthy, and come back in the fall ready to start a new season.
Just making the playoffs isn’t worth being crappy for the following years.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
13:13 Left: First TV Timeout
Shots: Detroit 17, Los Angeles 22
Hits: Detroit 13, Los Angeles 28
Faceoffs: Detroit 19, Los Angeles 17
I never thought I'd actually have to emotionally prepare myself for a playoff-less spring
My girlfriend will be ecstatic.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:06 PM CST reply actions
Scary stat
This is exactly how the Kings opened the second. Shots 8-1 Detroit.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:08 PM CST reply actions
Oh, Maltby
I think he has the highest per capita f-bomb count of anyone on the ice. :)
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
I know trading him might be logical
But he would look so strange in any other uniform.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
I’m almost certain that wasn’t called all last finals, but I may be mistaken…
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
Bert is a penalty drawing
machine. Or something.
Bertuzzi draws another one.
Dare I say…BELLE TIRE POWERPLAY
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:10 PM CST reply actions
8:56 Left: Second TV Timeout
Shots: Detroit 20, Los Angeles 22
Hits: Detroit 14, Los Angeles 29
Faceoffs: Detroit 21, Los Angeles 19
looking at shots and faceoffs
I’m not surprised the game is tied, but I would have guessed it would have been more like the teams alternating goals instead of a glut for each team in alternate periods.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Philly plays at Minnesota tonight
So you might be right. :D
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Jeebus, what kind of powerplay is this.
Also, LA guys JUST noticed no Holmstrom
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:14 PM CST reply actions
Bertuzzi killed that powerplay
terrible pass.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:15 PM CST reply actions
We're going to get worn out
The rate we keep going
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:17 PM CST reply actions
been smoking wacky tobacky?
It would account for the slowness of thought.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
I'm going to have a heart attack haha
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:18 PM CST reply actions
you haven't had one already?
I think I’m working toward my third. Today. :)
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
I dunno why everyone says the Kings exceed expectations
I’m pretty sure 10 straight years of high draft picks will do this to any team.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:19 PM CST reply actions
Or the poor, poor Thrashers.
They’re the unlucky recipients of Patrick Stefan with the lottery #1 pick.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
I think it was habit
They have just been expected to be crappy for so long that the assumption is automatic.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
3:35 Left: Final TV Timeout
Shots: Detroit 21, Los Angeles 23
Hits: Detroit 14, Los Angeles 30
Faceoffs: Detroit 22, Los Angeles 20
Slooooooooooow whistle.
I think it might be Howard’s penchant for giving up rebounds. Psychologically affecting the refs I think.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:22 PM CST reply actions
Game over
I can’t fucking believe this shit.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:22 PM CST reply actions
What's our chances now?
34%? I’d say that’s high. I’d put us more like, at 12%, especially with Dallas winning. We’re drafting high this year guys, that’s all I can see as a positive.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:23 PM CST reply actions
We just don't deserve it guys.
They’ve been soft all season. We aren’t earning dick all here, and sure as fuck not sympathy points. Win, or go home, and that’s what we might as well do.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:24 PM CST reply actions
Wait until we blow a four goal lead. This team is soft physically and mentally. We just flat-out suck.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
Howard's pissed
They’re all pissed. Closed door meeting after this game, for sure.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:25 PM CST reply actions
Trade. Buy out. Rebuild. There is nothing positive left here. We are gone confidence wise for the rest of the season.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
great idea
Suck for years and get high draft picks just like the Penguins, the model NHL franchise, getting enough high picks to actually get enough fan attention to bludgeon the city into building a new rink or they would move.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
I'm not questioning their character
Sometimes luck and injuries just work against you, and this might just not be the Wings year. I’m not going to sit here and say that they don’t care enough, because I’m sure this isn’t fun for any of them.
They want to win plenty, I’m sure, but haven’t been at full strength really until the playoffs last year before the finals. Play an extra six months over a few years and it takes a toll.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
That's nice and all, but it doesn't cut it here
We had a three goal lead. It evaporated. They flat out don’t try once they have the smallest lead. They deserve to be in the doghouse.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
yup. its all adding up.
And they no longer dominate out there. Every game last year, opponents were on their heels as the Wings took the puck up ice. This year there’s just no domination out there. I can’t quite attribute it to anything in particular…
they can't afford to have all the best players they want to keep
Other teams have improved with good draft picks, they have taken advantage of the salary cap to pick up talent from other teams – seriously, if it was just a matter of money, would Hossa be a Hawk now? Or even Quincey with whichever team he was last traded to?
The poor teams have improved a bit, and the best of the teams have been beaten down to closer to the same level. From the time the NHL decided that the holy grail of profitability and popularity was parity and that dominant teams were an affront to that, this outcome was inevitable.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
It shouldn’t exist to handicap well run franchises. The Hawks are a circus of an organization, yet somehow they come out on top.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
for how long?
Last year they made the playoffs, this year they are probably a legit Cup contender, but next year? What if they miss the playoffs next year because of injury and needing to jettison talent that will cost them too much under the cap?
And shouldn’t is a different matter than what is, unfortunately. Dominant franchises have been declared boring – every fan believing their team has a chance is the way to have a successful league, in their minds.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
that's what I think, too
And why I almost expected them to figure out how to get Kovalchuk as a rental, because this is the perfect opportunity for them, and who knows when they will get such an opportunity again.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
I think the cost would’ve been their grit. Barker, Versteeg, grinders like that would have done more damage than losing Kovalchuk. They know the playoffs ae a defensive slugfest, and especially in the West, they would have been boned without their gritty forwards.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
I mean, baseball is a wash every year. My Jays have no hope of competing against the Red Sox AND the Yankees. It’s impossible. I’m just saying, there has to be a better way than making the best teams suck so that teams no one cares about (Phoenix, Atlanta, Florida, Nashville, etc) can have a shot at winning.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
I know
I wish I knew the answer. With 30 teams in a league it’s likely that each one will average about three titles per century, so all it takes is a few teams better run than others, or luckier, and they will win more than “their share” and leave other teams with Cubs-like droughts.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Hey, that’s all the goat’s fault! Even Kenny would have trouble overcoming that curse!
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
Goats have tremendous power.
Of course, that doesn’t account for why the Cubs were horrible for decades before the goat incident. :)
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Aren’t there two curses? I seem to remember two haha.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
are you thinking Bartman?
That wasn’t a curse, that was Alou losing his freaking MIND instead of calming down and concentrating on getting the next out.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
No, that was because of the goat. I swear there was one before the goat… to wikipedia!!!
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
the most powerful curse of all
The Curse of Sports Suckage!
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
I agree. Only Carolina has had more man games lost to injury and they haven’t been fighting for a spot. It’s just kind of painful. Looking forward to seeing the Mule.
Yeah
Don’t know what else we can do. They’ve got to find a way to get that mental edge back, knowing they are better than this.
That’s the problem, they just lost their confidence against the Capitals and it’s not coming back.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
Well, that Olympic break won’t hurt us but it shouldn’t be kind to the teams that are on a roll.
A girl can dream….
now i'm just hoping that the injuries are short term
well, bye everybody- i’m going to look for a Camp Randall feed.
Final Stats
Shots: Detroit 8-4-11=23, Los Angeles 8-13-6=27
Attempts: Detroit 17-15-17=49, Los Angeles 21-18-6=45
Hits: Detroit 5-6-4=15, Los Angeles 13-13-4=30
Faceoffs: Detroit 11-7-6=24, Los Angeles 8-6-10=24
Penalties: Detroit 2/4-1/2-0/0=3/6, Los Angeles 2/4-0/0-2/4=4/8
Power Play: Detroit 0/2-0/0-0/2=0/4, Los Angeles 0/1-0/2-0/0=0/3
One thing I know
I’ll be here again, next game. Nothin’ else we can do. We don’t bail on our boys. Period. Even when they seem to bail on us.
That’s what sucks about this the most. We never bail, even though they keep fucking up.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
There will be no playoffs for the Wings this year
Anaheim will take over the #8 spot before Dertoit does – you can take thant to the bank
by KingsBeatWings on Feb 6, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
maybe
And it might be for the best for the team not to get beat to hell for another few weeks or months and let a few other teams deal with the injuries and putting off surgery instead of getting problems taken care of and getting a good start on the rehab so they don’t come to training camp still recovering.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
sorry
Sometimes they can be spooked by reason and logic.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Wonder why an LA King fan would either
a) voice some support for the Anaheim Ducks, considering there’s supposed to be some “geographical rivalry” down there.
b) have reason to trash the Red Wings, seeing as how the Wings were the victims of one of the Kings greatest playoff victiroies.
by FloridaownsFSU on Feb 6, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
When did the Red Wings
become the NHL that is at risk of blowing every damned multi-goal lead they have?
I’m not saying this to be a jerk, I honestly am amazed that the Wings, a team that has been amongst the league’s elite for over a decade, has become a team that screams of unreliability.
when they lost 3 players during the course of the game
It’s a lot to do with an inconsistent line-up in my mind.
same here
They have had players in and out all year, and just when they really start to look good, either someone else gets hurt, or someone who has been hurt re-enters the lineup – and in either case, it knocks everything out of whack.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
another one
down the drain but a bit more painful with 3 goals and 3 downed players, least we get Franzey back next game.
Anyone else think
That if Anaheim does make the number eight spot, San Jose is headed for yet another first round exit?
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Circa last year?
Maybe not. Depends if the Ducks are as tough without Pronger in the line-up.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
thing is they have Hiller
And with the Sharks history, if they fall behind they will turn their sticks into whatever the composite equivalent of sawdust is.
I wonder if the team will fire the coach in that case.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Does that mean we get McLellan back?
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 6, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
the thought crossed my mind
Return to the scene of his last substantial playoff success to get back his mojo? :)
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Of course
San Jose always chokes. Unfortunately, because I would be rooting for them because I have a deep, insatiable hatred for the Ducks. Ugh.
I could readily foresee the Wings beat the Sharks too
if that matchup came about.
Seeing as how, you know, the Wings have beaten the Sharks all 3 times they’ve met this year. I don’t even have to factor in that San Jose is one of the most prominent playoff disaster clubs in the sport.
by FloridaownsFSU on Feb 6, 2010 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
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