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Projecting the Lines for the Blues

I sat down last night during the Super Bowl, which I found to be probably the most boring in a loooooong time, and tried to figure out how Babcock would juggle the lines with the return of Johan Franzen and possibly all three of the players that left the game against the Kings could be back to the line-up.

So many names to choose from, it's actually kind of fun for once. I couldn't really decide on who goes where because for the first time since October, the Wings will have scoring depth on every line.

Wait, what?

No matter how you juggle the lines, there will be a more than capable scorer on that line. That's an odd thought for this season and may begin to solve some of the scoring woes that have plagued the Wings all season long.

Here's what we know: the line of Draper-Helm-Eaves isn't going anywhere. They're too good together and are lightning out on the ice. In all likelihood, they'll drop down to the fourth line but will still see substantial playing time. But where do you go from there?

Who makes the top line and who gets pushed down to the third? 

Star-divide

Eaves is listed as doubtful with his ankle injury right now (HT to @EtchedInCold) so he could drop in our out before the lines are solidified. Draper and Helm will likely stay together still and if Eaves is indeed out for the game, someone will rotate in for his spot.

Best case scenario: All players are in, happy happy joy joy.

Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom
Cleary-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi
Williams-Filppula-Miller
Draper-Helm-Eaves/(Maltby or May)

OR

Franzen-Datsyuk-Zetterberg
Cleary-Filppula-Holmstrom
Bertuzzi-Williams-Miller
Draper-Helm-Eaves/(Maltby or May)

Worst case scenario: Homer, Eaves, Miller are all still out for the game. Three players out with only 2 waiting in the press box (May, Maltby)? That would mean that, assuming Kronwall plays, Derek Meech would have to pop in as a forward on the fourth line. If Kronwall can't go, there has to be a call up or the Wings will just have to suck it up an play without a 12th forward or a 6th defenseman. But I see the chances of all four (including Kronner) being out as very slim.

Who ya got for the Wings lines heading into tomorrow's game or is it even not worth worrying about knowing Babcock's penchant for switching things up as players try to ease back into action. Talk amongst yourselves, I gave you a topic (yes, a Coffee Talk reference)

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Lines vs. Blues

Z-Pav-Homer
Mule-Flip-Bert
Cleary-Helmsy-Miller
Malts-Drapes-Williams

by Wings3_26_97 on Feb 8, 2010 10:37 AM CST reply actions  

lines

I thought that the Homer-Pav-Bert line was starting to get some good chemistry before Homer got injured…. It feels wrong to say it but I think these lines might play well:

Holmstrom-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi
Cleary-Zetterberg-Franzen
Williams-Filppula-Miller
Draper-Helm-Eaves/(Maltby or May)

It also spreads the talent out a bit more.

by sprout42 on Feb 8, 2010 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

Completely Agree with these lines

If I remember right, the Cleary-Zetterberg-Franzen line carried us several times throughout the playoffs last year, and that top line of Holmstrom-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi has carried us quite often this season. These lines seem to have had the chemistry going and could definitely bring back the scoring punch we desperately need.

by sparto on Feb 8, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I think you got it.

by dewman8810 on Feb 8, 2010 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

I’ve always liked Cleary and Franzen as Z’s wingers. It’s a great line. But then again Franzen could probably do more with Datsyuk’s playmaking skills than Bertuzzi. Either way we’ve got two solid lines.

by breakaway on Feb 8, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

not Bret Favre

That’s all that mattered to me. :)

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Feb 8, 2010 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

That third line you got, completely disregarding the actual game of hockey, could be a decent line from a nickname standpoint – Fil, Will, and Mill, the Ill line.

No wait, scratch that. Last thing I’d want is more bad mojo and possible illness. Break them up so as to appease the hockey gods!

by jameshstephenson on Feb 8, 2010 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

Franzen and Filppula worked great together. Why would you split them up? And Z and Datsyuk should keep playing together (and they need a bad skater with them to stay out of their way)/

Z – Datsyuk – Holmstom
Franzen – Filppula – Bertuzzi
Cleary – Helm – Williams
Miller – Drapper – Eaves

by Kman23 on Feb 8, 2010 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

Babcock was quoted to say he would split up Z & Dats when Mule returned (or shortly thereafter). May and/or Malts may be on waivers as we speak to get below the cap. Maybe Mebdeech too

Worst case: bring up 1 or more – Ritola, Pare, Tatar

Z – Datsyuk – Holmstom
Franzen – Filppula – Cleary
Miller– Williams- Bertuzzi
Helm– Drapper – Eaves

by waltdetroit on Feb 8, 2010 2:32 PM CST reply actions  

I’m guessing Homer’s out, from today’s updates. I doubt twenty four hours will change that much, but you never know with him. Kronner’s still out, and so is Eaves.

I bet Babcock will leave Zetterberg and Datsyuk together for the first couple shifts, maybe just to help Mule get his skates underneath him, so here’s my guess, at least for the start of the game.
Franzen-Datsyuk-Zetterberg
Bertuzzi-Williams-Cleary
Helm-Draper-Filppula
May-Miller-Maltby.

It really sucks not to be able to rattle off Helm-Draper-Eaves without thinking about it. And of the four that were up in the air, the only one that seems to be coming back without a doubt is Miller.

by crperreau on Feb 8, 2010 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

Does Miller play center? If not, the 4th line does not appear to have one.

I suppose you could do:
Miller-Filppula-Helm
May-Draper-Maltby

by sprout42 on Feb 8, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe Miller has played center before. I thought I remember reading a Khan update at one point that said “Miller will play fourth line center”. I could be wrong though.

by crperreau on Feb 8, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Franzen may get 3rd or 4th line minutes so maybe put Helm with him to help cover defensively, how about:

Bertuzzi-Datsyuk-Zetterberg
Cleary-Filppula-Miller
Franzen-Williams-Helm
May-Draper-Maltby

by waltdetroit on Feb 8, 2010 3:23 PM CST reply actions  

puke

Khan posted the lines from practice:

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Franzen
Bertuzzi-Filppula-Cleary
Draper-Helm-May
Maltby-Miller-Williams

May on Helm and Draper’s line? Miller should be up there. Homer is a maybe, Kronner is a no, Eaves is a no and Miller is a probable.

by Casey Richey on Feb 8, 2010 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

I saw those, but I can’t imagine May staying up on that line. Is Williams really a fourth line guy? I thought he’d be up higher, for sure. At least, he seems like he should be up there instead of May.

by crperreau on Feb 8, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah, but without Kronwall, we’re stuck with Meech and Lebda on defense.

Unless you want May to play defense.

by sprout42 on Feb 8, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he was referring to the fact that Brad May does not deserve to be a third liner. In fact, Brad May is usually more useful in the press box. :)

by crperreau on Feb 8, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe Babcock has foreseen something in the Blues lines that he wants to match up

by waltdetroit on Feb 8, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I agree 100%. The thought of May playing defense in their place was just too good to pass up.

These combos for lines 3 and 4 would probably make a bit more sense:

Draper-Helm-Williams
Maltby-Miller-May

Or… I was thinking pulling Miller in Williams place, how about swapping Miller and Draper?

Miller-Helm-Williams
Maltby-Draper-May

by sprout42 on Feb 8, 2010 4:04 PM CST reply actions  

My two cents

Miller does not deserve to be anywhere near the fourth line, and when I see him there on the ice, it files into the cabinet of “WTF U DOIN, BABBY?”. Put Williams on the 4th line, for crying out loud.

Franz – (Who) Dat?syuk – Zetteryes
Bert – Fil – Cleary
Draper – Helm – Miller
Maltby – Willy Vanilli – John Mayden.

by von Awesome on Feb 8, 2010 4:58 PM CST reply actions  

Nickname time.

Johan Franzen – Franz Foolyerdad.
Pavel Datsyuk – (In tribute to the Saints) Who Dat?syuk.
Henrik Zetterberg – Zetteryes, Zetterawesome, Zoitterberg (Dr. Zoidberg fusion).
Todd Bertuzzi – My brother and I call him “Bartuzzi”, said with a Kentuckyian dialect.
Valterri Filppula – Valterri’s (Got the) Formula
Dan Cleary – Danny Boy
Kris Draper – Son of Hermes #1
Darren Helm – Danger Helm, Darren “What’s Terminal Velocity?” Helm, Photon Light.
Patrick Eaves – Son of Hermes #2,
Drew Miller – Oat Soda
Jason Williams – Willy Vanilli (TM to someone else)
Brad May – John Mayden, General Maynager, Brad Mostos

by von Awesome on Feb 8, 2010 5:10 PM CST reply actions  

you must have been EXTREMELY bored today

"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero

by Baroque on Feb 8, 2010 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, most of those nicknames were ones that my brother and I came up with playing NHL 10 or watching the games. We have an odd sense of humor, and an odd taste in things. Haha.

by von Awesome on Feb 8, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Kronwall and Eaves are out according to Khan

Miller is in, Holmstrom is day to day

Back off man, I'm a scientist

Hockeytown USA has moved!
Hockeytown USA

by Ryan Weiss on Feb 8, 2010 6:43 PM CST reply actions  

can the olympic break come any quicker?

if we can pull out 2/3 this week. ill be content. hoping everyone will come back from the olympics focused, HEALTHY and ready to make a run for the playoffs.

draft micah johnson

by dhall25 on Feb 8, 2010 7:25 PM CST reply actions  

kronner

does anyone seekronner pulling himself from the olympics to fully heal his knee?

by waltdetroit on Feb 8, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

he was listed day-to-day and was expected to play tomm night so im guessing it is not that bad

probably just not as ready as he thought.

who from the wings are playing in the olympics

draft micah johnson

by dhall25 on Feb 8, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Nevermind

Pavel Datsyuk
Valtteri Filppula
Tomas Holmstrom
Niklas Kronwall
Nicklas Lidstrom
Brian Rafalski
Henrik Zetterberg

hopefully the swedes will get knock out early (not likely) so our wings can get some rest

draft micah johnson

by dhall25 on Feb 8, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Don’t forget Mike Babcock & Steve Yzerman (CN coach& GM)

& 2 GR Griffiths, Kolosov & the guy we got for Leino

by waltdetroit on Feb 8, 2010 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

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