Sharks score on power play following head-scratching decision
by Casey Richey on Apr 30, 2010 12:30 AM CDT
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PrintIt's not that often in hockey that a player gets hit with a high stick, is bleeding from the cheek and instead of drawing a double minor for his team, is instead sent to the box himself. That's what happened with Johan Franzen and the Detroit Red Wings in the second period of Game 1 in the Western Conference Semifinals.
Franzen was called for tripping Devin Setoguchi, despite Setoguchi's stick hitting Franzen in the face prior to the tripping call. Yeah, figure that one out. A minute later Setoguchi drew (and embellished) a high sticking call on Valtteri Filppula, giving the Sharks a 5-on-3 power play.
Fifty seconds into the third period, the 5-on-3 for the Sharks allowed Joe Pavelski to score his second power play goal of the night to put the Sharks ahead. The eventual game winning goal, on the power play that shouldn't have been.
The Wings dug a huge hole for themselves early on with 3 goals allowed in the span of 1:19. Pavelski started the scoring with a power play goal following a slashing call on Filppula. Dany Heatley scored 56 seconds later after a poor dump in by Darren Helm lead to an icing call and an eventual defensive zone draw that the Sharks won. Heatley put a pass from Joe Thornton past Jimmy Howard for a quick 2-0 lead. The Sharks would have had another power play opportunity on that play as Andreas Lilja got caught holding Thornton but the goal negated the call. Another defensive face-off loss cost the Wings a goal as Devin Setoguchi scored 23 seconds after the Heatley goal to make it 3-0.
But Detroit quieted down and started playing responsibly on defense. The offense started creating opportunities the other way and eventually a goal by Dan Cleary sparked some life in the Wings. Cleary's goal, at the 11:40 mark of the opening period, came as an easy tip-in after a great pass from Jonathan Ericsson along the boards. Cleary was alone in front of the net and had no problem burying the goal.
Detroit's second goal came off the stick of Franzen as Cleary screened Nabokov. Franzen ripped the shot home from the slot and Nabokov had no chance with screen by Cleary. The penalties at the end of the second period set the stage for Pavelski's goal. After Pavelski's goal, the Wings struck back with exemplary passing as Pavel Datsyuk dropped a pass soft pass to a streaking Brian Rafalski. Rafalski's goal at 2:57 provided the Wings with a bit of a spark but they were unable to tie the game up in the remaining minutes of the third.
There were surprisingly few shots on net for both teams (27 for San Jose, 23 for Detroit) considering the amount of offense that both teams have on their roster. The game was very choppy as penalty minutes riddled the game and destroyed a flow for either team.
Sure, the Sharks were still winning at the time of the questionable non-call but the inconsistency and utter stupidity behind the referees decision at that time is baffling. There's no guarantee that the Red Wings would have scored if they were given the double-minor power play but it would have given them the chance that the rulebook says they should have. If anything, the situation dictated penalties for both players which would have put Setoguchi in the box and the second penalty would not have been called.
Shocking stat of the night: Despite the numbers in the goal column, Jimmy Howard didn't play that bad of a game. He was once again left to fend for himself on a few plays because of poor penalty killing or defense. Of the four goals, he probably should have only stopped the last one. Even then, it was a 5-on-3, hard to pin him for that.
Player of the game: Dan Cleary. Cleary was the most active player on the ice for the Red Wings tonight. He tallied the first goal and screened the second goal. Cleary was all over the ice tonight and was a noticeable presence. Bonus points for pretty much immediately coming back out on the ice after the knee to the head.
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Wouldn’t be a series vs. the Wings without fans bitchin about calls. Good times.
by skilletboy on Apr 30, 2010 12:57 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Do you really believe the correct call was made?
He already noted that the double minor doesn’t necessarily change the outcome of the game.
thank you for saving me some effort. ditto.
by Casey Richey on Apr 30, 2010 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Bullshit call.
Should have been 4 minute penalty against the Sharks. Did the 3 inch gash not convince the refs? How the hell didn’t they see the high stick. Most of us could in real time and the ref was right there. The ref was on the opposite side but could see the high stick motion and the result if he was paying attention.
Wings should be pissed and win the next 4 staright. Sharks your luck has run dry.
McCourty will do. If the Packers don't take him first... they would.
If Frandzen didn't trip Sedo.........
then Devin wouldn’t have been sent flailing, and by happenstance, lift his stick up high.
Get over yourselves Wings fans. You can’t always get all the breaks forever.
Viva Los Tiburones!!!!!
Watch the replay again
Setoguchi falls after his stick hits Franzen.
by Casey Richey on Apr 30, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Get over yourself
Dumbs Dima. Wings in 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Frazen high sticked first. The 3 inch gash that came first doesn’t say enough?
McCourty will do. If the Packers don't take him first... they would.
you, sir
are a moron. as casey and boots pointed out, it doesn’t mean shit in the end. the point he was making is frazen clearly took a slap shot to the grill, and he got called for tripping. sj subsequently scores on a 5 on 3. does it mean we would have won the game? no. does it mean the wrong call was made and a huge goal was scored? yes. if you don’t understand it in those terms, next time i will draw a picture for you, maybe that is more up to your speed.
by BearedPlayoffJesus19 on Apr 30, 2010 2:09 AM CDT up reply actions
well, the headline of the post
sorta begs the question. the point being made is that whether the call was wrong or right (it may have been wrong. i havent seen on replay) we see wings fans bitching about calls instead of talking about how good of a game it was. both teams had their chances, and san jose came out on top. get over yourselves.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Begs the question or poses the question? :P
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Science nerd and proud of it!
indeed- haha
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Only the first three paragraphs are about the incident…and they’re short paragraphs…the rest (the bulk) of the article is analyzing the game. If there’s a call where Thornton got high sticked, yet HE got called for a penalty, you really don’t think the Sharks fans would mention it??! Wow you guys are saints…
Plus at the end of the article he mentions how he knows the call didn’t win the game…it just sucks to see a wrong call against your team, I think you’d agree with that.
by plopperrawr on Apr 30, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
im just saying,
having been around fans of just about every team, wings fans are by far one of the more knowledgeable fan-bases- i expected to see a slightly different conversation here than what went on during the sharks-avs series.
and yes, though the whole of the article itself actually discussed the game, the headline and the comments below are what surprise me.
i was just hoping this would be about hockey, not about how the ref’s hate this team or that team.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I get what you mean, but I think it’s hard to deny that any other fans would be bitching about the refs in a similar situation. A lot of people here are mentioning that bad calls went both ways…and I could be wrong, but I didn’t see anyone write about how the refs hate the Wings. In fact, I think Wings fans like that are ridiculous…
Like I said, I could be wrong…running on 4 hours of sleep and trying to write a paper due in 4 hours lol.
by plopperrawr on Apr 30, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
it is vindictive
for a school to expect students to write papers when wings sharks playoff hockey is going on. ;)
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
if the GW goal was scored on a 5-3 that shouldnt have been, do you really expect us to be all giggity because it was a good game?
you can read below, and see that i refuse to blame the refs. but obviously we are going to be upset because of it. id expect you guys (and you guys would) to do that same.
but like they said. no one said that is THE reason we lost. hell you guys could still short handed or we could score and take the lead. point being, that missed penalty DID changed the outcome of the game, and thats what is upsetting.
that beings said, no one can deny it was a good game and i think everyone expects a good series. i wouldnt get too confident though like some of the other FTF bloggers, already buying brooms :)
SIGN MICAH JOHNSON DOLPHINS!!!!!
I blame the refs
For being crap and getting worse every year. How can I get a job like that? I’m actually expected to IMPROVE over time, not get worse and still stay employed!
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Science nerd and proud of it!
i complain about reffing
but gotta know that this is the fastest and most physical game on the planet- calls will be missed. the game is getting faster by the day, and the fact that the refs catch half of what we see on out 56 inch high def tv’s is pretty great.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
on "OUR" 56" hd tvs...
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
it sucks i can agree with that
but these are professionals. im not going to give the refs the win in this game.
SIGN MICAH JOHNSON DOLPHINS!!!!!
i see your point-
it is frustrating when those opportunities are taken away. and it probably was a factor. not nearly as much as the sharks playing lights out on the penalty kill though.
i think we sharks fans largely only complain about reffing when it comes to the red wings. there is a general perception that the wings get a lot more calls than they give up.
i wouldnt get too confident though like some of the other FTF bloggers, already buying brooms :)
SOME is a very loose term. i hope you noted the backlash that created. i think the total population of broomtown is 1, no one who watched much hockey really thinks this is a 4-0 series.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah i notice that. i just thought it was funny how serious those who thought that were
if it happens, then more power to the sharks, you guys are a great team. right now its definitely possible. but not likely. not against the wings.
but yeah, majority the bloggers here arent going to complain about a call unless its a really bullshit call.
but yeah last night, i did say i gave the benefit of a doubt that your PK is really good as to why our PP sucked
SIGN MICAH JOHNSON DOLPHINS!!!!!
no way a sweep happens
and i hope it doesnt. this is too good of hockey to only see 4 times.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
The Wings do have a knowledgeable fan-base. They know what a four minute high sticking penalty looks like. If you want to see another one, look at the end of Game 1 vs. the Coyotes. That stick hitting Lidstrom’s face was an example too.
unfortunately the wings also have an arrogant fanbase too. whaaaaa
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
difference is...
we have 19 straight playoff appearances, 11 stanley cups, ahh fuck it you know what all we have to back up our arrogance
by BearedPlayoffJesus19 on Apr 30, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
nothing like jealousy fueled fandom.
the arrogance with reason really gets to me. ha! :-)
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
This was the second time in these playoffs
that a Red Wings player got hit in the face with a stick and needed stitches, and no high-sticking call was made.
I think that’s something worth mentioning right there.
that Frandzen.......
shouldn’t have made a tripping penalty that sent the other player flailing with stick in hand.
Is that worth mentioning?
why "lol"?
Got something against proper spelling? Casey is right.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Science nerd and proud of it!
Because...
it made me laugh.
I am not a professor of Red Wings players names spelling.
I apologize to have offended you so agrigeously.
Well, that's good.
Nice to be able to laugh at your own blatant inadequacies.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Science nerd and proud of it!
Nothing to get over
I thought it was a great game and I would be nervous if I was a Sharks fan. The Wings looked pretty good after that defensive lapse. Once again the Sharks will find themselves on the golf course earlier than they’d prefer.
wow bold prediction.
no idea how this series will play out, but its amazing to read from people who apparently do.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
It wouldnt be a
series without intelligent sharks fans trolling. The boys below pretty much describe your completely useless comment, so i will leave it at that.
im happy you pointed that out, I knew I wasnt the only one that clearly saw seteguochi blade cut franzen open
and what really drove me crazy was the verses crew calling the game saying how the visor maybe caused the cut its like isnt there a f**king guy behind cameras at vs with 202/20 vision that could maybe point it out to the guys calling the game but thats a mute point considering…..
the dumbass not one but two officials dont pick it up either
Its shameful when the reff have a major impact on the outcome of any game in any sport
If they get that call right, 5 on 3 doent happen the game possibly goes to OT
that and the fact that Franzen doesn't even wear a visor
by Casey Richey on Apr 30, 2010 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions
as a part of quality control im sure an officiating crew watches the tape to see if there were any improvements that could be made or see if there were any mised calls and of course incorrect calls
Most of the time these type of situations have a tendancy to even them selves out. And for someone that just wants to see the better team win wether its the wings or not and not the reffs determine the winner I can say I hope the same type of blunder doesnt happen to SJ instead im just
hopefull the bounces will go our way in game two or maybe even get a gift goal from boyle
i thought the franzen call was unlucky more than bad officiating
the frazen play happened fast, and had the evidence not been on franzen’s face, i don’t think we’d be complaining as much on that one. to me, it was more bad luck.
but the second penalty was absolutely a dive, and should have been called as such. i hope someone on the wings gives that mofo a real beat down in game 2.
by redwingxviii on Apr 30, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Babcock is full of Western Canadian "crap".
Whenever someone gets a stick to the face, there is a natural reaction to drop everything and make sure your nugget is OK.
The refs called the penalty that occurred…a blatant high stick that luckily didn’t cause an injury.
Maybe blaming Sedo or the refs for YOUR inadequacies make you Wings fans feel better
C'mon now, no reason to try and defend that.
And you’re being a troll. Don’t defend Setoguchi’s diving. It was stupid, pathetic, and shouldn’t happen. The Sharks are a better team than that, and like I said elsewhere, I’ve never seen them play a game like that in my life. I respect the Sharks as a team, but last night was just strange. They were diving extraordinaire. The diving isn’t why the Wings lost (though it would have negated the call on Fil), but it was very blatant. Setoguchi’s drop was pretty late in comparison to when he got hit.
How, may I ask, do you feel about Setoguchi’s blatant high stick that actually did cause an injury, however small? Little differently than the high stick on Setoguchi?
To that I say.....
the same thing I have already said in this thread…
If Frandzen doesn’t trip Sedo and send him flailing with stick in hand(not to mention no visor), then there wouldn’t have been a cut on your “balatant” high stick.
You see it your biased way, and I see it my biased way. but my way actually is what the officials saw as well.
Call em waht you like if it makes you feel better about yourself. I do understand you aren’t used to adversity
there's still no D in Franzen
and you still don’t know what you’re talking about. watch the replay.
by hockeytownwest on May 1, 2010 6:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Please see the posts below
where both a stillframe of Franzen being clipped, and the video is posted. Setoguchi clips Franzen before, or at the very least simultaneously with being tripped. The high stick is very clearly not caused by the trip. His stick was already out of control. The refs blew this one big time, and there’s no reason not to admit it. I readily admit Draper sold the interference earlier in the game.
Irony of ironies, joining WIM to whine about Wings fans whining. Just stop. You’re not even listening to what we’re saying. So just stop.
And stop making posts that make you sound like a total douche. Not used to adversity? Yes, Wings and their fans are not used to adversity. Do you have any idea what it was like in the early to mid 90s, when the Wings finally put together a competitive team, won presidents trophies, and yet couldn’t make it past the first two rounds? When we endured two years of first round exist (93, 94), only to finally reach the promised land and get swept (95)? Do you know what it was like being denied the Finals by losing to your mortal enemy, the Avalanche (96)? And finally, finally getting to see your team raise the cup two years in a row (97,98)?
How about recent history…do you know what it was like to go into a serious funk after winning the cup again (02) and not being able to make it out of the first two rounds when your team could have legitimately won it all? Do you know what it was like losing to the 8th seeded Oilers in the first round? Do you know what it was like to finally make it back to the conference finals and to lose to the douchiest team of all time, the Anaheim Ducks (07)? Do you know what it feels like to lose game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals, in your house, when you led the series 2-0? Do you have any idea?
Do you know what it was like losing over 300 man-games to injuries this year, and still making the playoffs? Do you know what it was like playing an extremely tight, physical series with Phoenix to seven games? Do you?
I suspect you’ve had a taste, given the Sharks recent playoff struggles, of the kind of adversity that the Wings and their fans have been through. But you’ve only scratched the surface. So given that you probably stopped reading this post half way through, because even finishing this was too much adversity for you…Go. (Insert choice word). Yourself. The Wings are who they are because they’ve faced adversity, kicked the shit out of it, and kept going. Until the Sharks have reached the pinnacle, you can take your "adversity" and shove it.
Now go troll elsewhere.
Good game
There were some bad calls both ways. This one obviously the most grievous one, but there were also a couple missed cross checks going the other way, and Couture getting put in the box for a roughing despite standing there with a halo taking punches to the face and not retaliating.
Anywho, as much as I love to hate the Wings their ability to possess the puck and those outstanding passes, including the good ’ol stretch pass trend, really impressed me seeing it from a nosebleed vantage point tonight.
Very hard fought, should be a nail biting series. Going to go back to hating all your guts now, g’day!
Uhm, go watch the Couture replay again. He had a handful of Ericssons jersey and was throwing punches with that hand. Ericsson threw them with his free hand.
Those 2 calls were spot on.
Still should have been 2 for tripping on Franzen and 6 on Setoguchi (2 for diving, 4 for high sticking).
is there a replay somewhere of the franzen "trip"?
I havent been able to find one, but i rewound it on my DVR several times last night and it seemed to me that franzen got caught with a high stick as setoguchi tripped over the blue line. It looked like franzen’s stick wasnt even close, but as setoguchi spun around he just lost his edge.
by hockeytownwest on Apr 30, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats what i saw
too, however from what casey said it sounded like it was franzen stick… so idk.. i cant a replay either.. and i didnt DVR it.
found it
here’s a youtube video from last night’s game. 2:27 in is when you see a good replay of what happened. Franzen’s stick did make contact with setoguchi’s leg, but it looks to me like setoguchi took a major dive feeling it hit his leg. At the same time setoguchi’s stick hits franzen in the face, so it wasn’t a direct effect of franzen’s touching of setoguchi’s leg. Overall, setoguchi needs to quit diving and play some real hockey. he got away with a bunch of crap in game 1, but i don’t see that happening again.
by hockeytownwest on Apr 30, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
tried to embed, no dice
here’s the link:
by hockeytownwest on Apr 30, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Refs
The penalties tonight were getting way out of hand their was bad calls both way, Franzen 4min PP no call and getting call for tripping, a shark diving the refs bought, also sharks getting called for Interference on Draper which was a long stretch (Their was more bad calls against sharks but I don’t remember them, it’s the sorta thing you only remember when it hurts your team.)
I think at the end of the night the Sharks were 2/6 Wings were 0/5, way to many calls made tonight that made the games tempo go right out the door, I hope the refs forget to bring their whistles and the next time we see 11 PP is when we add up the numbers from games 2-4.
Granted it was the wings complete mental break down for 1:19 and special teams that completely redefine the world special and not in a slight good way. But then again I guess that’s a game 1 trend we seem to have going for us. It’s sad that the wings are still killing them self’s with the same bonehead mistakes. (Faceoff’s/Special Teams)
I know its just game 1 and theirs at least 4 more games to be played, I’m just a little let down from going to see how the wings can/should play (Game 7) to this game which seemed a lot like a mix of (Game 1) and (Game 6) of last round. Rest should help lets just hope its enough
yeah i noticed the "interference" on draper.
all well. point is the wings should have stopped the sharks. as much as i think the refs screwed us with those calls you ultimately have to put the blame on the red wings. they beat themselves
1st goal- two straight horrible passes, leads to filps slashing.
2nd goal- darren helms inability to skate one more foot to dump the puck in, bad face off.
4th goal- cant put the blame too much on the wings, it was a 5-3 that SHOULD have been a 4-4, granted howard should have made the save, im not going to blame him either.
(missed the 3rd goal. so yeah dont know what to say about that)
wings can fix these problems, i guarentee they wont have a bad stretch of those 3 goals. i feel confident in this series. wings and sharks have the same style of hockey and we run that style a hell of a lot better.
SIGN MICAH JOHNSON DOLPHINS!!!!!
the 5-3 should have just been a 4 minute power play
Filps couldn’t have high sticked Setoguchi if he were in the box serving his 4 minute high sticking on Franzen.
also, that guy needs to learn how to skate. he trips over the blue line and franzen gets called and then gets hit on the arm and as the idiot vs. announcer said “his legs quit working”
by hockeytownwest on Apr 30, 2010 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah your right. didnt think about that
it was a bullshit call, but these players are professionals. not to mention babs had a whole 15 mins to game plan the 5-3. im not defending the refs, just pointing out nothing can be done about it. calls go both way, though i feel like the bad calls that went against us were a lot more costly.
all well. this is only game one, we can fix these problems and hopefully will have a better showing come sunday with much needed 2 days rest.
SIGN MICAH JOHNSON DOLPHINS!!!!!
I thought
we played pretty well, – that 1:19. I agree with the officiating, they really need to realize that this is the playoffs. The calls for both sides were terrible, it was just worse timing on the calls on the red wings… garbage 5-3… absolute garbage.
man i missed this game
looks like i missed a lot of controversy…oh well 1 game no biggie…Sharks needed this game a lot more than the Wings did…rebound time on Sunday
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Not a whole lot of controversy. I mean…normally when a stick hits a player in the face, and he starts bleeding it’s a high sticking call. But there wasn’t. Franzen was super pissed about it lol…
by plopperrawr on Apr 30, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I could have swore we were watching a synchronized diving event in the olympics… the calls against the wings were questionable at best.. At worst I may have to dig my tin foil hat out.
I've never seen the sharks play like that
I don’t think it’s usually something they do, but it was pretty blatant. Obviously Draper embellished the interference against him, so it’s not like it was only the sharks trying to draw calls. But seriously, the second half of that game was ridiculous with respect to shark diving. I think I was particularly attuned to it after that diving call against Helm, which was nothing close to what we saw last night.
Oh well. Not worried yet. Gonna be a close series but like others have said, I doubt we’ll see a 1:19 crapfest like that again. Although it sure would be great if they’d just play like that game 7 team…
Yeah, the wings had some iffy calls go their way also, but the PP was sucking so it didn’t help.
As soon as they get the PP and PK working (again) we’ll be back in the series. The fact that we came back from 3-0 to make it 4-3 without any PP goals makes me confident that we can solve the Sharks. It’s just so frustrating after such a fantastic game 7 on Tuesday.
funny how wide open the playoffs are this year
id have expected a much tighter game, but the willingness of both our teams to commit to the front end to the detriment of defense at certain points of the game. for example, on franzens goal, clowie attempts a clear and fails, and his mates are halfway up the ice.
makes for fun hockey, but i can only assume both teams will sit back a little more. it is refreshing as hell to not watch a game where one team sits on the trap the whole time though.
thornton made his presence known, that doesnt bode well for the wings success this series. if Joe Pa (how can any red-blooded american not love that kid?) continues his effort, and the big line gets going too, the wings are in for a nasty series.
oh, and can someone tell datsyuk to stop embarrassing our defensemen, they clearly do not want to be undressed anymore. kthanks.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions
i think we are in for a great series
but trust me, we arent the avs, we will address the problems we had in game 1. pavelski is a GREAT player, but not taking anything away from his talent (i do respect his talent) if we can shut down crosby and malkin we can shut down pavelski, Thornton and heatley. to be honest i think the wings just underestimated his talent. but we will make adjustments. i wouldnt expect you guys to be scoring 3 PP goals in one game or 3 goals in 1:19 anymore this series.
SIGN MICAH JOHNSON DOLPHINS!!!!!
can and will are different entirely.
this is the year, the guard is changing.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Just keep believing
in Santa and the Easter bunny to buddy. Your Sharks are 5 games away from elimination. Joe Thornton is the state puff marshmallow man, he melts under high heat and that’s what the Wings bring. Enjoy another disappointing year!
here's what i believe
I believe the easter bunny brought a big ol’ egg, that is, a goose egg; thats right- 0 for 5 on the power play to the children in red pants last night.
I also believe santa clause dropped a whole buncha coal into wings fans stockings, making them grouchy and bitchy. well guess what santa clause isnt handing out the cup out this year, and the red winged wheel is about to go flat.
Come on wings fans, act like youve been here before. all this whining about bad calls, like suddenly the league’s poster-child is being given an unfair shake. give me a break.
and you sound like youre nervous- first team to lose to san jose in game one in 4 years.
and who the hell is the “state” puff marshmallow man? apparently your perception of hockey is about as accurate as you’re recollection of movie trivia. He was the “Stay-Puff” marshmallow man, and he was one bad ass dude.
sharks in 6. book it.
now im done. Go Sharks.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe
If the San Jose defensemen were better hung they wouldn’t be embarrassed to be naked.
//way too easy
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Science nerd and proud of it!
touche.
but is only a matter of time before datsyuk is coming across the middle fancy-doodling and gets destroyed by murray.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Datsyuk's head
is always up, i would be very suprised to see him destroyed, hit yea… but destroyed?… his awareness is always amazing. Its possible, just not a likely canidat.. now i could see helm or eaves gettin it.
Datsyuk's head
is very irregularly shaped.
but i see what you mean. he is out of this world good at what he does.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
people have been saying that
Since he was a rookie. If he hasn’t gotten destroyed yet, he won’t be by some lumbering meathead now.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Science nerd and proud of it!
What I noticed........
The Sharks just don’t play defense like the Coyotes. We could play Phoenix 100 times and Cleary would never have the time/space to score the goal he did.
most definitely.
the sharks are by no means a trap team, and i think phx employs that a lot of the time.
that play is a result of the offensive aggression san jose showed through the night. Clowe’s linemates expected the clear and were leaving the zone, freeing up a lot of time and space.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Ice
Was it just me or were players just falling down all the time last night? At first I thought it was just tired legs for the Wings (though I didn’t really buy that), but it seemed to be going both ways. It wasn’t just diving or tripping either, people just seemed to be falling down in open ice. Was there any talk of the ice surface being bad or am I just imagining things?
i noticed that in the 1st period.
before the 1st goal i noticed a couple of wings players tripping and of course the bad passes. not sure if it was tired being a factor or just so bad sequence of plays
SIGN MICAH JOHNSON DOLPHINS!!!!!
Sharks fan.
HP Pavillion has some of the worst ice in all of hockey. They hold so many events on there close to game time. i.e. eagles concert fridat and saturday. That being said great game as expected and I only hate the eagles more now as I must wait to Sunday to see some quality hockey.
"Hes like a Sweedish Bear" -Randy Hahn 4/8/10
Dont boo your team!
Refs did do one thing right...
I saw Nabokov flop a couple of times trying to obviously draw an interference penalty. One was quite amusing in the 3rd period. I’m glad the refs didn’t buy THAT diving. That’s the extent to which I thought the refs did a good job last night.
Other than that, a horribly officiated game all around. I think both teams realized how close they were calling it and took advantage by embellishing and diving whenever they could. Both teams were guilty of embellishment, but through my Red Wing-tinted glasses it appeared Sharks players were diving way more.
Doesn’t matter though, the Wings pretty much lost the game in that 1:19 span. Hopefully that’s the last time defensive lapses rear their ugly head in this series (but don’t bet on it)….
Typical Detroit Fans
The responses are typical Detroit Fans. Yeah, your team is the best ever; theycan never do anything wrong – it must be the refs. If you watch the replay of the Franzen Setoguchi play, Franzen stuck his stick in Seto’s skates and tripped him. Before he went down it threw Setoguchi off balance and while trying to gain his balance his stick hit Franzen. If there was no tripping, there would have been no high sticking call. It was a good judgement call by the ref.
As far as Seto’s later call, you may have a different view if you have ever been hit in the face with a stick. If you look at it in slow mo, the tip of the stick rode up and hit him in the chin. That is enough for me to give him the benefit of the doubt.
If he did embellish it, it was not near as bad as the embellsihment on the Dan Boyle penalty in the first period. He barely touched the RedWing (I forget who) on the arm, didn’t get anywhere near the face, and the guy starts fliling and windmilling his arms…. and they called intereference??? Then there are all the non-calls on Detroit as they skate sideways to interefere. Get over it. Its playoff hockey. A lot of stuff is not called.
Typical Sharks fan
I DID watch the replay and Franzen got hit pretty much at the same time. Call it all or call nothing, put them both in the box for simulataneous penalties or just don’t call anything.
As Detroit fans, we understand it’s the playoffs and that stuff doesn’t get called but to be honest, no one asked for your opinion did they? And yeah, I have been hit in the face with a stick but I dont think 95% of the league drops to the ice like they were shot in the leg like Setoguchi did.
by Casey Richey on Apr 30, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
hypocrisy you have to love it
really thats all its is. Look how much he complains about the high stick on Seto’s call already…. Now just imagine what Chris Q would be complaining about if they were handed a call like franzen. Chris Q.. think about it really? I take it you never played hockey.
Great Point!
Sharks fans have to get all of this trash talking in while they can because they know an early exit is inevitable. Thornton and Heater both have tee times set up for late next week.
Thorton is lucky
he didn’t lose some teeth last night for spraying howie. Stay classy, Thorton.
by BearedPlayoffJesus19 on Apr 30, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
nice. all kinds of original and thought provoking analysis.
have you watched anything but power rangers and detroit hockey this year?
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
No boss thats where you are wrong
I thought the call on Doug Murray was a horrible call. He barely touched Draper and he spun around to maintain momentum and the refs called a interference penalty. Regardless there were 3 bad calls made during the game last night; 2 in favor of the Sharks and 1 in favor of the Wings. The slash called on Filpula was weak, since when can’t a player stick check an opponent? It has been bad this year as I’ve seen calls made for knocking a stick out of a guys hands, but this is playoff hockey not mini mites.
You have to be in control of your stick at all times. Refs don’t avoid making the call if a player stick checks a guy and his stick comes up and hits him in the face now do they? Your argument would mean that a retaliation roughing shouldn’t be called because if the player didn’t hit him first the guy wouldn’t have had to retaliate.
I thought the same thing on the Filp slash
I thought they only got called for slashing when their stick broke.
I thought the same thing
I mean it could have broken the stick. But it didn’t, and the stick didn’t fall out of his hands. If they’re going to call that a slash, okay. But I was surprised, given I haven’t seen them call slashes like that this year.
its been sorta inconsistent unfortunately. (what hasnt been?)
i think it is a discretionary call.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
I only watched a few games of the Avs-Sharks series so I can’t speak to that series, but the officiating in the Phx-Det series was frustrating to watch, on both sides. So many chincy calls, so many weak calls. It’s playoff hockey and they were calling it tighter than in the regular season. The flow of a number of games was totally ruined by the refs getting whistle happy. As far as I’m concerned, there’s no reason there should be 11 penalties called in a single game in the playoffs (last night), unless it’s really getting out of hand. C’mon, this is playoff hockey.
one thing i will say
is that i really dont believe one team is getting an unfair shake over the others. the tickytack calls or the let them play have gone both ways.
i think it is interesting though, having both reffed and played a lot of hockey, that as fans (myself included), we think we know exactly how a game should have been called. watching hockey on tv is probably about as far from reality as any sport around. so much happens so fast in such a small space simultaneously, the ref’s are really at a serious disadvantage. adding that 2nd ref really helped, but i think the speed has finally caught up to the post-lockout rules, and the players are now able to get away with more. i am sure the league will find ways to adapt the reffing.
hell. besides that, this has been ONE HELL OF A PLAYOFFS. it is a great time to love this sport.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s funny how you post this one below my post discussing how the game was horribly officiated ALL AROUND, and also admitting some bias in my views (every sports fan is biased…its human freaking nature!). In fact, a majority of Red Wings’ fan posts here agree with that viewpoint.
Typical Sharks fan…get off you freaking high horse. (How’s THAT for a generalization!)
Like I said one post above yours, BOTH teams realized the refs were calling it close, and BOTH teams’ players started embellishing and diving as a result. Are you sitting there telling me that the Sharks are not guilty of that? Because that’s pathetic. Oh no, you’re saying that the “Wings did it worse” is your argument. And you’re the model of pure objectivity, eh?
Be gone, troll!
Good lord
A Sharks fan telling Wings fan what playoff hockey is, that is hilarious. Do Sharks fans even know that there are 4 rounds? Who knows. I’d guess all of San Jose collectively acts like a hopeful 5 year old in the backseat, “Are we there yet? Are we there yet?”, cause they don’t know where this road is supposed to end. But it will just end where it’s all too familiar for them. Their defense, compared to PHX, sucks majorly.
oh thats original
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Here’s the proof, suck on it.
Setoguchi’s stick hitting Franzen’s face before Franzen trips Setoguchi
by Casey Richey on Apr 30, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have dittoed....
your statements throughout this blog, and am glad to find another person who sees this from a non-Wings point of view. Where does the sense of entitlement come from? You can’t get all the calls always….forever and ever. Get over yourselves and try to get some shots on the PP
sorry, disagree
gooch’s stick is not in control, and hits franzen. that is high sticking. the only time a guy can hit another guy with his stick and get away with it is on the follow through of a shot or pass.
the ref’s missed the call. let’s move on. wings fans will belabor the point enough as it is, as they scramble to blame something besides being dominated by a better team last night for the loss.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Sunday is so far away...
to shut these San Jose fans the fuck up.
by BearedPlayoffJesus19 on Apr 30, 2010 1:22 PM CDT reply actions
regardless...
If the officials weren’t so freaking GULLIBLE and easy to manipulate all the diving and embellishment would stop because it would be a waste of time and effort if it didn’t work.
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
Science nerd and proud of it!
I would just love to sit in on one of these so-called meetings
that the refs have to review games. Game 1 was all the league needed to see that the Sharks are gonna dive and embellish. I know Todd McLellan didn’t bring that from Detroit.
12-5, against the Sharks?!
In the final period, trailing by 2 then 1, the Red Wings were outshot 12-5. And only 2 penalties were called in the third. How is that? You can’t blame the Sharks great defense because they aren’t as good defensively as the Coyotes. In my opinion, for much of the game, the Red Wings looked perfectly content to be down by a goal or two. They never played with any kind of urgency and never really tried to make anything happen.
Lidstrom was not particularly effective that game and the Red Wings did not score on the PP. (Game 7, Lidstrom assisted on the first PPG and scored the next two.) Notice something there? The Wings power play needs to improve.
Another game without Zetterberg or Datsyuk scoring, another loss. They combined for as many shots on goal as Pavelski. Obviously we shouldn’t depend exclusively on them, but the Wings 1 and 1 when scoring 3 goals these playoffs (and 0 for 3 when scoring less) and they both scored in that win.
With the exception of a couple games, the Red Wings have been terrible defensively, often allowing way too many goals. In the first three games last series, the Red Wings allowed eleven goals. In their last three games, they allowed ten.
by bleep bloop on Apr 30, 2010 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
now that was a more honest, introspective evaluation. rec'd
san jose has done a brilliant job in these playoffs to really limit chances and slow down momentum of the break out. the low cycle has been a thing of beauty, especially by the 2-3rd lines.
that kind of hockey is all we sharks fans can hope for, if we are to beat your wings.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
For some reason I have a feeling Jumbo is going to be a goddamn beast this year. Sharks are going to be tied 1-1 in the series going on the road for game three in the first round, and five minutes into the second he is just going to take over. ~Plank
"He (Iginla) thinks he’s a pretty tough guy, so why not?" ~ Ryan Clowe
by Jay Fin Anderson on Apr 30, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Um
Did you actually read this article, and what people here are saying? No one is denying that the Wings didn’t get the job done when they needed to. No one has said the refs caused the loss. But the plays in question (Franzen getting clipped and Setoguchi diving) resulted in the 5-3 where the game winning goal was scored. So yes, they are going to enter the conversation as very significant moments in the game.
That crazy 1:19 had far more to do with the Wings losing than the 5-3, but no one is denying that. And it is entirely reasonable to be upset about calls that were simply bewildering. I’ve never seen a guy get clipped, bleed, and then be called for a penalty in the process. It’s just…well…bewildering.
Anywho, I think your impression of what is happening here is far more telling about how you already assume Wings fans function, rather than what has actually been discussed. Don’t peruse this thread to troll, keep to your comments that have been reasonable.
Reading comprehension
its a skill developed over time apparently.
by Casey Richey on Apr 30, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been listening ....
to the Ticket 97.1 all frickin day long from SF,
and rarely today did I hear the finger pointed at the Wings.
That is the only reason I decided to stop by this establishment to give my 2 cents
wow man
then you werent really listening… i listen to that day in and day out driving around for work. they said what most people here agree with: that flurry of goals>missed calls… we played a tight game within one… PP was turning point… i dont even have to go on. but really man, youre not even a part of Fear the Fin. youre just here trolling, so youre just making yourself look bad, not us.
Sharks vs. Yotes Fans
One game in and the Sharks fans have outstripped the worst of a generally good crew of Yotes fans in ridiculous troll comments.
Keep. It. Simple. Stupid.
Why are Wings fans so upset with the refs? Well, the one bad call everyone debating on here about actually influenced the outcome of the game in some way. But NOT A SINGLE (levelheaded) WINGS FAN on here is blaming the refs for the loss despite the seemingly obvious screwup, and if they are I’d like to slap them on the face. Just like I’d like to slap any Sharks fan in the face who says that their perfect little players would never ever dive, because they are such perfect hockey players. Please. STFU.
My rule of thumb? If Mike Babcock says it, it must be true. He rarely points fingers like that and gets angry, he’s a pretty classy guy…so for him to point at Setogucci and say he embellished it means that he probably did, regardless of whataver the heck Stogucci said today to defend hmself. It’s kind of like Nick Lidstrom getting slightly upset at the refs for missing that blatant high stick on him in round 1…Lids NEVER gets any amount of upset, so if he does you know the refs effed up.
by tehGOALIE on Apr 30, 2010 11:05 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
funny
sharks fans trolling our blog telling us to stop dwelling on calls all the while arguing about said calls. all the while telling us how arrogant our fan base is. all the while not even being a member of FTF, just WIM to troll… hm. I counted at least two of those so far… but we’re the snobs. guys, just laugh it off and enjoy the hockey and remember this is just the internet… wings in 6.
sheesh whats with all the trash talk and arguing
it’s 1 game…congrats to SJ for winning it but the series is obviously far from over and for Sharks fans coming on here and pumping there chests talking shit…seriously you guys are in NO position to talk anything alright
TULO = 2010 MVP!
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LETS GO WINGS!
Its called competative banter
I guess you guys are used to everyone bowing at the greatness that is the Hockeytown aura.
I said why I came on here. Maybe I shouldn’t have listened to 97.1 yesterday, but I wanted to hear a little credit given to the Sharks for a great game played from a different point of view. Most of what I heard, were excuses.
I did not intend to insult of offend anyone, just engage in compeative banter. I probably did cross the line in some ways, and do apologize.
Sharks in 6……………
Just make sure your back at the end of the series.
That’s all I care about. Same thing I have always said to trolls.
by BearedPlayoffJesus19 on May 1, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I take my medicine...
Just like I dish it out.
I have been a lifelong Golden State Warriors diehard….it’s unavoidable.
dude seriously
i listen to that station all day every day driving for work… and thats a flat out lie, but i already explained this in a reply up in the threat somewhere so i’m not wasting my time…. but seriously, youre trying to find an unbiased point of view in a detroit radio sports station on a detroit nhl team franchise? fail… NOTHING is unbiased… try posting ONE comment on your sharks blog first before you start talking shit on our blog, because right now youre a textbook troll because of that… here’s to a great series man. i’ll leave it at that.
I didn't say unbiased
I said “a different point of view”.
I was just surprised, as in my market, they gave credit to Detroit for a good, tough game, and expect that throughout the series. I expected a little more than what I heard. I have no reason to “flat out lie”. I missed the morniong show and maybe that was more congenial to the opposing team.
Being called a troll doesn’t bother me as it appears you all think it should. maybe I need to blog more to meet your hefty status to be able to have an opinion.
well
in your earlier posts you said we were just making excuses… but in the bigger picture, its you saying we all need to get over ourselves on a bad call. we all know it was those three goals in a minute and a half that killed it, not the penalties. but now even if we bring it up, we’re whining and blaming refs? saying we somehow have a sense of entitlement? if it had happened to the sharks, do you think you would not have brought it up at all? that’s all i’m saying. you’re trying to paint a picture that says we’re trying to make excuses for what happened so we can feel better about our team. we’re not. there’s having an opinion, and then there’s making an unfair assumption about a fanbase…as you said, we probably both crossed some lines so what can ya do. you are a sharks fan and i am a wings fan, and thats how it goes. maybe thats why in MY market i heard them give credit to SAN JOSE for a good, tough game, and expect that throughout the series. and i could give a shit about blogging status, but when you just have membership to the opposition blog talking smack what can ya expect? anyway this is going to be another close series, we’ll see what happens.
Get used to this crap
Yeah this is coming from a thoroughly disgruntled avs fan who just had to put up with an entire series of this shit. The reffing is so preposterously unbalanced in favor of these bastards it’s just… unfathomable.
by TheFightingFarsi on May 1, 2010 4:39 PM CDT reply actions
Not really unfathomable
Last season, I watched the Blackhawks playing in San Jose. After a period of prolonged Hawks possession, they scored. The Sharks complained. The goal was waved off and a penalty was assessed to a Blackhawks player for a high stick that occurred about 1:30 prior to the goal.
I had never seen that before. I’ve seen players get unsportsmanlike conduct penalties for telling referees about missed calls, but never that.
The Blackhawks won that game anyway.
Take from this what you will.
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