Should he stay or should he go? Red Wings captain mulls future
For the last 17 off-seasons, Detroit Red Wings fans have had little to worry about who would be anchoring the blue line the next season.
Now, all that is in doubt.
Red Wings captain Nicklas Lidstrom just completed his 18th NHL season, and recently turned 40-years-old during the playoff series with the Phoenix Coyotes. And for the first time in those 18 seasons, it appears the captain is seriously considering calling it quits. Lidstrom recently enrolled his 16-year-old son in a Swedish school in case he retires, which has fueled speculation on the captain's future.
For years it was a question of how much he would re-sign for. Now it's a question of if he'll re-sign at all.
Head Coach Mike Babcock believes that the Wings' captain will return next season, as he told MLive's Ansar Khan today. Players Henrik Zetterberg and Johan Franzen have said they will try to persuade the captain back next year as well.
But ultimately it is not up to Babcock, Zetterberg or anyone on the Red Wings for that matter. It will be Lidstrom's decision to make.
More after the jump
Few times in sports does a player's production not drastically decline when that player reaches the 35-40 year range. Lidstrom is an anomaly when it comes to this however. Lidstrom won three of his six Norris Trophies after he reached the age of 35, a remarkable accomplishment in a physically taxing sport. Unlike his predecessor Steve Yzerman, injuries have not plagued him into retiring.
The question is not whether Lidstrom can play, but rather if he wants to play.
On this rare occasion we may see a player retire while he is still considered one of the best in the game. Even in what he would consider a down year, Lidstrom was a top candidate for the Norris Trophy yet again, although he didn't make the final cut. Speaking volumes to his reputation in the league, Lidstrom was recently voted by his peers to be the league's best shut-down defenseman in a Sports Illustrated poll, garnering 25 percent of the vote.
Lidstrom made just over $7 million this past season, and it is widely believed the Wings will ask him to take a slight pay cut next season. A deal within the $4-5 million range on a one to two year basis seems to be the popular idea.
Lidstrom showed in the second half of this season that he can still play at an elite level, and was well worth the money the Wings shelled out for him this year. Many claimed that he had "lost a step" in the early part of the season, when he went 42 games without scoring a goal. But Lidstrom, who was never known for his speed in the first place, silenced those critics with a torrid January, finishing the year with a respectable 49 points
The only certain thing in this dilemma is that if Lidstrom comes back to the NHL next season, it will no doubt be with the Red Wings. Lidstrom has really been a free agent in name-only throughout his career, and there's really no incentive to bolt for another team this late in his career. Detroit is a perennial Stanley Cup contender and it would make no sense for him to "make one last run at the Cup" with another team when he's already got the pieces in place here.
Lidstrom will end his career as a Red Wing, and his #5 will be up in the rafters shortly after. Hopefully "shortly after" isn't for another couple years.
We as Red Wings fans have truly been blessed to have watched the best defenseman of the modern era for his entire career. Lidstrom is a class act and is respected league-wide, and has alway put the team first. Back in 2007-08, when his contract last expired, Lidstrom took far less money to stay with Detroit than he could have made on the open market. If he retires, it won't be because the club didn't offer him enough money or he wasn't happy with the direction of the team. It will be simply because he doesn't want play anymore.
No matter what the captain decides, he deserves our respect and thanks for a great career.
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Why would he go? He is still one of the best, if not the best defensemen in the league. I dont think he should go because of his ability. His cap number, thats a different story. I think he is on the books for around 7 million or so. Thats too high. Hopefully they can work something out and he can come back a little cheaper. I believe Holland and Nick will figure this out and we will see 5 for at least another year.
by muleneedsfeeding on May 10, 2010 8:06 PM CDT reply actions
he definitely wont be coming back for less, regarding retirement I always looked at like this....
the window of a professional athlete to perform at high level is already very small
and there comes a time were your body physically cant do it any longer so for some one like lidstrom to retire when he can still play at the highest level is the dumbest thing in life
can you imagine how he would feel when hes fifty when its no longer an option for him and to look back and say I wish I would have kept playing a few more years
just like how farve was presured into retirement by the media is total bs then he comes back and helps his team get to the nfc championship
when lidtrom loses that step like yzerman did in his last year then you know its time but now is definitely not the time
Heart
Throughout this whole year, I’ve been saying he’s going to retire after this season. His head is still in the game, but his heart knows there’s more out there. He just seemed to be somewhat absent at times. #5 Detroit and all it’s fans owe you a debt it can never repay, thank you for your years of service!
by Nate noes best on May 10, 2010 10:12 PM CDT reply actions
It's cool
I have faith that this will be the most lopsided poll in WIM history despite your error.
Back off man, I'm a scientist
i dunno...
we had one one time that was like 700 to 4
by Casey Richey on May 11, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
What was the question?
Is Sidney Crosby a vagina?
by handsomerob1 on May 11, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
well
we DID have one saying are the pens are dirty team. so its kind of close right? meh, whatever.
by Casey Richey on May 11, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
he is going to stay
he has got some gas left in the tank
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
Certainly, if he comes back, I'd welcome him with open arms
and I still think he’s got enough in the tank for at least one more year. But, I voted yes for two reasons.
1) His kid is turning 16, this may be his last chance to connect with him before college (or whatever the kid ends up doing). Personally, I’d think there’s some value to that.
2) I’ve seen guys in many sports stay too long. Personally, I think it’s painful to watch a great player stick around for a year too long and for his legacy to have that small little footnote that he stayed one year longer than he should and looked bad. Now, as I said above, he probably has enough in the tank for one more year at least. But I’d rather see a guy retire a year too early than too late.
I understand the arguments for him to come back and have no legitimate argument against them. Just my 2 cents.
I hope he stays....but
if he unfortunately decides to leave, who should be the next captain?
Zetterberg has been an associate captain for many years
And with him locked up until 2020 he’s most likely next in line
Back off man, I'm a scientist
lol nice technicality.
Zetterberg is for sure the next captain……..
by plopperrawr on May 11, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
no dats?
i agree that z deserves the consideration, but both players are great and i believe dats should get the nod because of his longevity (not that z hasnt had it either) and great skills. he isnt very verbal but he leads with his play. im just surprised all 3 agreed that z is consensus next captain. but u cant go wrong either way.
Class Act
Nicks been a class act and the steady D anchor for many years,he’s still one of the best in the game,but i understand that theres more to life than the game. I would hate to see him go but would wish him all the best and say a BIG THANK-YOU for what he has given to us . The question is how the hell would you fill the hole if he leaves?
Give us some transistion time...
Have him stay on for one more year, and start pulling back on the minutes. Even at 40 he was pulling in top ice time night after night. Start spreading the load around, and move him into a more mentoring role with the young defensemen. I think he’s got 1-2 more GREAT seasons left in those legs, and probably 3-4 GOOD ones. I have no qualms with him wanting to go out on top.
Hopefully we get another year or two for him to rightly transfer the reigns and really focus on developing the blue-line of Detroit. Not only does this help the Wings in the long run, but it also helps Lidstrom get a feel for the coaching side of things (as if he needs any help in that) in case he wants to work in the office or any of hockey teams in Sweden.
No matter what…he’s currently one of the top players in the NHL, and had one of the strongest careers of anyone to ever lace up and hit the ice. Classy and talented, smart and steadfast, it will be a sad day to see him go – but I can only wish him the best.
by The BBQ Chicken Madness on May 11, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions
that's exactly my thinking...
and I’m hoping his strong finish will give him the confidence to know he can play another season and still be top of game … I think a transition year would be a HUGE value not just to the D, but as a “captain in training” year for Z. (Not to mention another year in net under Howie’s belt). I am hoping he will stay just b/c it is best for the team. No reason to see that he wouldn’t … he’s always put team first. Absolutely the classiest guy in hockey today, one of the classiest ever.
I honestly would not be surprised
that if he stays another 1-2 years, he is split up from Brian Rafalski. I think they put one of their top young prospects—either Ericsson or Jakub Kindl, please make it Kindl—with him for a bit of a season as a bit of training process. Not sure what would happen to the rest of the pairings (Maybe a Kronwall-Rafalski, Stuart-extra dude) but it’s something I could see happening.
YES
I would LOVE to see Kindl and Lidstrom paired together throughout the season. What a way to groom a promising young defender. Along with that, pair Stuart with Ericsson.
Although that Kronwall-Rafalski pairing scares me…
by handsomerob1 on May 11, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmm
The Stuard/ Ericsson pairing is the one that scares me
Fuck my life
RESTORE THE ROAR 2010 Detroit Lions
Why?
Stuart being the solid defenseman, Ericsson the better offensive option? Other than Ericsson pinching (which he’d probably do regardless of who he’s paired with) there’s not much to hate about it.
by handsomerob1 on May 11, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
They are both - players
Stuard Blows plays quite a bit and ericson doesnt know when to not pinch
Fuck my life
RESTORE THE ROAR 2010 Detroit Lions
Stuart was our most consistent defenseman all season
with apologies to Kung Lidas, who struggled at the beginning of the year. Stuart is probably the best mentor on the team for the type of player they want Big E to be.
by handsomerob1 on May 16, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
They did Kronwall-Rafalski for a bit either last season or this season and it worked pretty well
Stuart-Lilja has the potential to either make the other defense pairings or themselves look amateurish
hell yes..
those two block alot of shots… i dont think a puck would get through. Speed on the other… not so much. Then again you could put helm and miller with them.
The 45 people that said him leaving is for the best are idiots
Fuck my life
RESTORE THE ROAR 2010 Detroit Lions
Honestly, as much as we want him to stay...
I think he’s gone. I’m praying that I’m wrong with this prediction, but it seems like his heart isn’t in it for another year or two. Being the ultimate team guy, he’ll probably want to see his son in hockey school back home.
This situation reminds me a lot of Barry Sanders with the Lions. Although Barry was younger, both him and Lidas are still the best in the game at their respective positions when the whole retirement debate happened.
Yeah, Barry's was more sudden
but the context is the same: both with multiple great years left, no reason for them to go other than their own decisions.
by handsomerob1 on May 11, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
he can't leave
If we set up a picket line outside his house and slash the tires on all the planes at the airport. :D
"While there's life, there's hope." --Cicero
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Someone hog-tie Mike Illitch
and steal the keys to Red Wing One
by handsomerob1 on May 12, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Lids will be back...
I agree he’s the ultimate team guy, which is why he’ll be back with us for two more years. They’ll pay him well and he’ll want to go out as a Norris finalist with his 5th ring – if they can get a little more depth on D, add scoring via Hudler and the free agent market and make sure Zetty is dialed in like Stevie used to be in the playoffs…we can win next year.
by MCBATX on May 12, 2010 11:45 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Relatively healthy. Not Norris-automatic anymore, but still well above average.
No reason to go anywhere unless he’s tired of it. Whatever he wants to do is more than fine.
I would guess he’s back.

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