Morning Skate: win one?
by Casey Richey on May 6, 2010 7:00 AM CDT
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PrintThere's not going to be much of a morning skate today. Being in a 3-0 series hole makes it hard to really find any motivation in terms of trying to preview the game and giving some insight. You all know what's at stake, the players know what's at stake. Let's just hope for a good game.
Now I'm not quite offering up the white flag yet, but it surely is a long, long way for the Red Wings to go. The biggest thing is to take it game by game. Don't think of it has needing to win four straight games but just winning one at a time. If anything, the Wings need to play hard and play a full 60 minutes and show like they actually want to be out there.
For some of the guys, it could be their last game in the Winged Wheel and in front of the home crowd. You gotta think they might have some heightened motivation in the game. For some of the others, its a chance to step up and make an impact. The young guys like Darren Helm, Justin Abdelkader, Jonathan Ericsson, and possibly even Mattias Ritola could have an impact on tonight's game and help lengthen the season.
If Detroit bows out tonight, it will be the first sweep they've suffered since 2003 (oddly enough, a 4-0 series loss to Mike Babcock's Mighty Ducks) and it will be a huge disappointment. After handing Phoenix a big 6-1 defeat in Game 7, the Wings have yet to really show up in this series and because of it they're in the hole big time.
If the Wings show up for the full 60:00, they can send the Joe Louis faithful home with a tad of hope. Give the fans a game they deserve and play hard all game long.
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True....true
If Dats keeps it rolling, and Z flips the switch, maybe we get a little Franzen action…..Jimmy Howard keeps his legs closed….anything is possible. They are the Red Wings, and basically have nothing to lose at this point.
by MCBATX on May 6, 2010 9:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Another thing
The way to play the game tonight is just to have fun. The Red Wings tend to play better when they look like they are having fun (or maybe they look like they’re having fun when they play better), so that could be helpful. And if they lose, at least it was enjoyable.
I'd rather they lose tonight.
And get it over with; the comeback is a fantasy at best. They’d get the rest they need for next season, and maybe have a chip on their shoulder. But more importantly, I’d rather Lidstrom’s potential last game be on home ice.
blah...
garbage. Wings hold a higher standard.. that what seperates us from the rest of the league… thats why the wings and their fans are HATED. LGRW!
Perception and some confirmation bias
Anytime a sports franchise has consistent success over many years, that franchise’s fans get tagged with the label “entitled and arrogant”. The classic example is New York Yankees fans. Thing is, almost none of the Yankees fans whom I know personally act that way; sure, they’re proud of their team and they talk trash from time to time, but that’s in the context of sports fandom, and frankly, that happens all the time in any sport.
When fans of a successful team show pride in that team, fans of other teams react to that. Which is fine. Part of that reaction, though, is looking for reasons to dislike a team and its fan, so you if really want evidence of arrogance, you’re going to find it no matter what.
There’s also a statistical phenomenon here, I think. The Red Wings have a pretty large fan base, and that increases the number of fans you’re going to run into who maybe act in a way you don’t like. Dollars to doughnuts that any team in the NHL that puts together success as the Red Wings have in the future will have its fans labeled as arrogant. Bet on it.
Yeah yeah,
I realize all that. But fans of other teams don’t give a shit about analysis. They see Wings fans acting like idiots very consistently online, they’re going to make the snap judgment and follow the generalization. And based on what a lot of Wings fans act like on many of the popular sites, it’s not exactly unwarranted. Call it being butthurt, call it a bad sample size, it’s what happens.
I don't see that as often as I see it with other teams...
Penguins fans, Caps fans, Chicago fans… Now THEY act like idiots.
You forgot to add
Even if a team is good or bad, as long as they are from boston the fans are the worst.
Every day is just a little worse than the previous, that means every day is the worst day of my life.
by shooting4life on May 6, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats just
hypocritical BS. Every sports fan is arrogant and talks trash when their team is winning. Its part of the competitive edge in everyone. Idk how many sports franchises and their fanbase do this… the wings arent anything new in that area. Its been like that forever.
Stay away from the stupid penalties.
Just don’t give the officials any excuse to call stupid penalties. If a Shark mixes it up after the whistle, just skate away. Move your feet instead of just using your stick to defend. Protect the puck. The Wings have a great chance to win a game if they weren’t wasting so much energy penalty killing. It’s been the difference in every game. Work hard and maybe you’ll draw few a calls for once, if someone gets in your way… don’t stop… keep moving and force them into some penalties. Holmstrom really needs to keep his emotions in check too. He knows the refs always have the microscope on him, so he should know that any type of retaliation by him will be called. He also knows that no matter what kind of beating he takes, it’s not a penalty so just keep fighting for space… without the penalties.
I believe
I’m not even thinking about winning four straight. I’m thinking about being able to watch the team I love play tonight. I’m thinking about watching our boys don the winged wheel and, win or lose, be the team I love. I’m thinking about all the adversity this season, and all the injuries, and how we pushed through to become one hell of a hockey team. I’m thinking about my whip-lashed heart through that Phoenix series, and our complete dejection after Tuesday’s game. I’m thinking about how there’s one reason and one alone that we are willing to be dragged through the mud at times, and other times brought to the mountain top. We do it because, damnit, this is our team. These are our boys. And when all the dust settles, when all the analysis ceases, this is the team we love. This is the Detroit Red Wings. And there’s nobody like them.
how are you a wings fan?
sorry, but whether you or not you are a realist. if you are a wings fan you need to support the wings.
just because I like a team
doesn’t mean my opinion of them will color my predictions. I suppose winning a game (for a change) at home might be nominally possible, but we’ve lost too many tight games recently. If the wings win, count on a 2+ margin, but I see it as two or three times more likely that our season ends tonight. It doesn’t mean I don’t support the team, it just means I saw the writing on the wall after Game 2. I don’t want them to not win, I just honestly haven’t seen anything yet that leads me to believe we will win a tight game, which this might end up being. If past history is any indicator, I’d tentatively guess we’ll score first, they’ll score second and third, we’ll tie it up, drop one more goal in the 3rd and give up an empty netter at the end.
No Limits.
Ill think
About the offseason when it gets here… Until then Lets Go Red Wings!.. debbie downers up in here.
down 3-0 with the officiating being what it has been
its hard to be anything else.
After game 1 I was still optimistic; I predicted the Sharks wouldn’t be able to win a series off of fluke goals and dives, but they did it again in game 2 (except for the fluke goals part I guess). After game 1, I predicted Wings in 5, but after game 2 I saw the writing on the wall and knew it meant a sweep. Better luck next year, fellas. Also, Lids, don’t you dare retire!
No Limits.
hell yeah
i agree 100% with your attitude…not over until it is over…if any team can come back from 0-3 it is the Wings!…GET EM TONIGHT!
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on May 6, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
How many teams have come back from 3-0?
I don’t know the stat, but realize it’s nearly impossible. That being said, stranger things have happened. What if we destroy them tonight and Pavelski goes down with an injury? I agree with the one game at a time mindset, go have fun and drag this thing out every extra game you can – odds are we’ll be on the golf course soon, but play with some honor boys.
by MCBATX on May 6, 2010 9:44 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
how many teams are the wings
only 1
you always have to be optimistic. the season isnt over. root for you team. i know its nearly impossible but i wouldnt be a fan if i rooted for my team to lose. seriously?
It was Actually 2 teams
This has got to be the closest series to ever have a 3-0 title to it so of course the Wings still have a chance. All 3 games were one goal games and 2 of them easily could have been won by detroit. I’d say all stats have got to be close, except for penalty minutes of course but the wings HAVE GOT TO PLAY FOR 60 MINUTES!!!!
i really dont understand why so many people want us to lose tonight?
everyone acts like we have been blown out every game. game 1 and 2 the score was 4-3 against the sharks/refs. game 3 was 4-3 and to be honest the score doesnt dictate how the actual game was, wings dominated nearly the whole game 5-5 until they started playing to not lose.
san jose just won 3 straight games, why is it out of the reach for us to do the same. sweeps happen all the time, thats 4 straight wins isnt it?
Finally
someone talkin like a wings fan. Ive seen these wings take 4 games idk how many times. I have way too much faith to think babs and all the boys are just going to lay down. Think about it, we win tonight.. then take 1 game on the road and we come home again. Yea its along stretch but far from impossible. Come on People i joined Sbnation to chat with the most dedicated wings fans. I know one thing for sure… I wil NEVER root for them to lose.
Been there before
Babcock has coached a team back from a 3-0 deficit to win a series, guiding the Spokane Chiefs in 1995.
"We got down 3-0 to the Portland Winterhawks, and we beat them in Game 7," Babcock said. "It was a great experience."
- Not dead yet: Detroit Red Wings stay optimistic (The Oakland Press)
Just hoping for a good game
Don’t get too emotionally invested tonight, win or lose…just watch the game as a fan of hockey. The only thing I don’t want to see is the Wings giving up (like Philly last night…did anyone watch that third period? I know Boston has a good defense, but Philly looked TERRIBLE. How did they make it to round 2 again?)
i dont think i can be dissapointed if we lose tonight
with what happened to us this season not many teams (if any) can say they have had that much star power out the line up and managed to do what we did and behind a rookie goaltender. ill be proud of these boys win or lose, so why not root for a win. i can believe what half of the people in this blog is saying. if you are a wings fan how can you root for a lose.
if it happens it happens, sharks are a great team (though i still think we are better). but ill be proud of my boys. 19 straight seasons and counting!
Yeah
No way does it make sense to root for you team to lose. Granted,should they lose tonight the rest will be welcome by them for sure…but you can’t squander away any chance you have at winning the cup, because that’s not what real champions do. I don’t care if they’re down 3-0 in the series, they’re paid professionals and I expect to see their best game tonight.
I will be 100% rooting for the Wings , and hope they can win at least one and give the Sharks a scare in game 5 (if not steal that one too!) Heck, if the Stars could do it to the Wings in 2008, why can’t the Winsg return the favor to a team like the Sharks? We shall see…
I agree
Of course I want the Red Wings to win, but I will be honest and say that if they don’t win, I won’t feel as disappointed about it as I might have in the past. The expectations on the Wings weren’t as high this year and they really had to kick it in high gear to even make the playoffs.
No matter the outcome, here’s to a good game tonight and hoping the refs don’t blow it for either team. :)
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin
definitely agree
been a great series…not nearly as lopsided as the 3-0 series indicates…here’s to the start of a miracle rally tonight! :)
TULO = 2010 MVP!
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
LETS GO WINGS!
by TuLoRocks2008 on May 6, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Tough
Hard to not bow the head a bit but like other contributors have said I’m gonna just look forward to enjoying my favorite team playing tonight.. One at a time-it has been done before, once against us. If they go home early, our guys deserve the rest, they have played a whole season in the playoffs in recent years. GoWings! Always.
by katiebarthedoor on May 6, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXo59ooBVEU not bad for amateur rap. got deez red wings on muh shouldas!
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