Source: Nabokov, Red Wings close to finalizing deal

Well, we've all heard the news: reports are that the Red Wings are close to signing a deal with former Shark Evgeni Nabokov, who had been toiling in the KHL. Everything is still being kept under wraps, but we'll have a post up once we know more. Keep in mind that if a deal is signed with him, he needs to clear waivers before officially becoming a part of the team.

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so

if we sign him. someone else claims him, can he say no to them? or are we SOL?

by tbone521 on Jan 20, 2011 2:19 PM CST reply actions

We are SOL

This is the exact same as the Blues signing Marek Svatos and Kyle Wellwood; once they agree to a deal with the player, then the player (and the deal he signed with the team) have to clear re-entry waivers, so all 29 teams get a shot at him for the price the Wings signed him for (if a deal is done). The Wings have no right of refusal, much in the same way that St Louis could not block Nashville and San Jose from claiming Svatos and Wellwood, respectively.

by Amerinadian on Jan 20, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions

i see

so if the wings really want him, sign him to like an 8 year contract and see if anyone wants to touch that? seems like the only option. i cant imagine he clears waivers. too many teams with goalie troubles.

by tbone521 on Jan 20, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions

I dunno if many teams have goaltending needs

But I think that, if we do try to pick up Nabokov, theres a 50-50 shot other teams will try to pick him up

Go for it

by DetroitSports on Jan 20, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions

It's such an assinine rule.

What’s the point of having a contract in place BEFORE the waivers? At best it serves as a way for competition to cockblock the signing team from getting who they paid for.

by Brion on Jan 20, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions

I suppose he could retire and screw them out of the cap space.

by Nate A on Jan 20, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions

LMAO

by Rat A Tat on Jan 20, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions

Good...?

He’s been pretty bad when he actually played , but I guess we might need him….

Go for it

by DetroitSports on Jan 20, 2011 2:30 PM CST reply actions

Joey Mac or Nabby as the backup?

I’ll take Nabby. And if Howard continues the suck train, we have an experienced backup ready to take the reins while Howard adjusts his suckometer.

by Brion on Jan 20, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions

I like this

Ozzy has had a nagging groin injury all year and Howie hasnt been great. Nabby is a great backup and will do great infront of a great team

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by TipOfTheZberg on Jan 20, 2011 2:51 PM CST reply actions

Could Nabakov say he wanted a 8 year deal for 500 million billion dollars

then after he cleared waivers sign with the wings like a 2 year deal for some reasonable amount?

I’m not real familiar with the NHL waiver system.

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by Eddie Apoc on Jan 20, 2011 2:53 PM CST reply actions

Off the top of my head?

No: it is my understanding he has to have a deal in place with the Wings and then once the contract is approved by the NHL (as all contracts are), then he gets put into the waiver pool.

by Amerinadian on Jan 20, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions

OK thanks.

I figured it couldnt be that easy lol

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by Eddie Apoc on Jan 20, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions

Nabby

I think even a 2 year deal would deter most teams, but who knows. Wings have nothing to lose here.

by liddy5 on Jan 20, 2011 3:17 PM CST reply actions

If the Wings sign him and he is snagged off of waivers

aren’t the Wings still on the hook for half of his salary hit? Or am I wrong about this particular type of waiver?

by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 20, 2011 3:19 PM CST reply actions

I believe that scenario comes into play when it’s a player who is being sent to or brought up from the AHL, and they are passing through re-entry waivers. In this situation, if someone claims Nabokov off waivers, the Wings don’t owe him anything.

by Amerinadian on Jan 20, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions

Update

http://twitter.com/detsportsnation/status/28201950344384512

According to reports, the deal is worth about $570K, which pro-rates out to a cap hit of about $250K. If he’s not claimed at that rate, I’ll……do something fairly embarrassing at H2H2.

by Amerinadian on Jan 20, 2011 3:31 PM CST reply actions

haha yeah, so much for that.

by mikerlz on Jan 20, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah it will take an act of god for us to get him

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by Eddie Apoc on Jan 20, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions

Not if he has a trade lined up.

Either pay him and have a multi year deal. Or have a low ass salary cap and send a pick or a prospect to whatever team takes him.

by Veihl789 on Jan 20, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions

i wonder

What if they worked a contract with a ridiculous player option after the season to keep other teams away, and have a gentlemans agreement with Nabokov that he will not pick up the option after the season. Is that legal?

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by rock n rye on Jan 20, 2011 3:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

Probably Nabokov wanted to play in the NHL

and the Wings brass being the gentlemen that they are arranged for him to comeback and be a wing for a day….

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by bharatwaj5 on Jan 20, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions

aha!

how classy of us.

by mikerlz on Jan 20, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions

wouldn't that be a fraction of his previous salary?

Wasn’t he making like 4-5x that for the Sharks? If he’s willing to sign with anybody at that amount, he must really want to play! He must realize there will be a slim chance it’s for the Wings at that amount. After all, he is a decent goalie…better than some teams have playing #1 right now.

Can’t believe Wings would just dump Ozzie for this…at least hoping it’s because his hernia was worse than originally thought. It’s not that I want him to be out longer, I just don’t want the Wings to dump him…it’s so unlike them!

by wingsluver4ever on Jan 20, 2011 3:48 PM CST reply actions

salary $6 mil...

If AP post I saw is correct, Nabby made $6 million with Sharks last year. Would he actually sign for $570 thousand? Prorated for full season that would be $1.14 million. Quite a come down..although he did go to KHL cuz no one wanted to sign him /or sign him at what he wanted.

by wingsluver4ever on Jan 20, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions

I thought the $570 was for the full season and the prorate was $250? That’s an even bigger come down.

by Papusica on Jan 20, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions

You're right...

Saw that on another post, but just haven’t gotten back to fix my post….thanks for correcting the record =)

by wingsluver4ever on Jan 20, 2011 6:19 PM CST up reply actions

No prob

It was more about making sure I understood correctly than correcting you anyway lol.

by Papusica on Jan 20, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions

Can somebody explain how waivers applies here?

Why does he have to clear waivers if the Wings are the ones offering the guy money to come back? I guess I’m confused…is this a “new era/cap” rule, or has it always been like this?

My real question is what’s the point of the rule? It seems to me like “fair cheating”…the Wings offer him a contract, but have to make sure nobody else wants him before they can get him. I guess I’m just really confused. Mostly because there’s no way he clears waivers at that price ($570K), so I doubt we’ll see Nabby in a Winged Wheel.

by tehGOALIE on Jan 20, 2011 4:00 PM CST reply actions

theres no way. nobody would be dumb enough to let us hang onto him :)

by mikerlz on Jan 20, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions

Agreed

There are more wing haters on this planet than there are people who hate the dreaded swastika…so I can only imagine wings being ’Nab’akoved

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by bharatwaj5 on Jan 20, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions

He has to clear waivers because he’s an unrestricted free agent who played in a professional league this season. Had he not played in the KHL and just remained unsigned, waivers would not apply.

by Nate A on Jan 20, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions

Per George Malik on Twitter

It’s part of the CBA: a player who played in Europe after October 1 and signed a contract after December 1 must go through waivers before they are allowed to get in with the team that signed them.

This is in place to prevent a guy like Peter Forsberg (follow me to an alternate reality where he is actually healthy) from playing in Europe on a reduced schedule and then signing a contract with a playoff contender right before the playoffs began.

by Amerinadian on Jan 20, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions

wouldn't be against this

LETS GO RED WINGS!

2011 will be the year....better be....

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Jan 20, 2011 4:08 PM CST reply actions

I don't get this...

Let’s say he wants to play here… shouldn’t he get to say no to other teams?

And I really don’t mind this. I would want him as a back up, seen as I strongly believe in Jimmy and Jimmy is the organizations love child, born and raised. But think about it. Going into the playoffs with Jimmy, Ozzie and Nabby. I don’t mind that at all.

by NatiTalia on Jan 20, 2011 4:21 PM CST reply actions

I absoulty love this providing we don't loose any players.

Ozzie got his 400th win and has a screwed up hernia. Put him on LTIR and sign Nabokov to a multi year deal with bonuses for about the same cap hit. The only area this team is deep is in net.

This would push Howard to be better and would give us an insurance police. Not to mention keep everyone fresh going into the playoffs.

by Veihl789 on Jan 20, 2011 4:49 PM CST reply actions

The only area this team ISN'T deep is in net.

by Veihl789 on Jan 20, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions

1-year, $570,000

According to Khan, MLive, little while ago…not a multi-year, no-trade deal cuz don’t want to be tied in until would see how he did.
Kenny must have something up his sleeve…or, just through out the offer as he said “just in case.” With this offer he can’t think for a sec Nabby would pass waivers…unless he’s pulling in all his favors.

by wingsluver4ever on Jan 20, 2011 5:24 PM CST reply actions

he may be counting

on the fact that no other team has an open roster slot for the rest of the year. (I believe) that a player claimed off waivers has to remain on the roster for the rest of the season.

by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 20, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions

How long will it take him to clear waivers?

On the off chance he makes it all the way through.

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by Eddie Apoc on Jan 20, 2011 5:34 PM CST reply actions

Depends on when the waiver request was filed

If the request was filed today before noon ET (likely not, as there would have been some announcement of a deal), he would clear tomorrow at noon ET, assuming there is no claim.

All weekday (Monday – Friday) requests are 24 hours, any weekend (Saturday – Sunday) requests take 48 hours.

by Chozo on Jan 20, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Antero Nittymaki on IR

Now Sj has a chance of snapping him up on waivers…

"I was in the pool! I WAS IN THE POOL!I was in the pool! I WAS IN THE POOL!"

by bharatwaj5 on Jan 20, 2011 6:04 PM CST reply actions

*Nabokov that is..

"I was in the pool! I WAS IN THE POOL!I was in the pool! I WAS IN THE POOL!"

by bharatwaj5 on Jan 20, 2011 6:05 PM CST up reply actions

sweet irony....

by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 20, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions

more like? sweet revenge...

Oops, can’t understand how that got by me….

by wingsluver4ever on Jan 20, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions

How does this make any sense at all?

I understand why this rule is in place, but it seems to stupid. If we’re the ones who want to bring him back, we should get damn dibs on him…

Go for it

by DetroitSports on Jan 20, 2011 6:19 PM CST reply actions

agreed

I can’t figure an angle to it. sounds like a silly regulation to me…

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by arkanfel on Jan 20, 2011 9:56 PM CST up reply actions

Nabokov signed with a "No Move clause"

What is a No Move clause?

by Papusica on Jan 20, 2011 9:58 PM CST reply actions

He can't be sent down to the AHL

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by Eddie Apoc on Jan 20, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions

Looks like he can't be traded a well.

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by Eddie Apoc on Jan 20, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah

I saw something that said he couldn’t be traded or waived again (I assume that basically means sent down to the AHL?) without Detroit having first crack at him again? That’s interesting. I still don’t see how this would in any way be a possible losing situation for the Islanders though, so I won’t be surprised to see them snatch him. Seems like it’d be worth the risk for them. What have they got to lose, really?

by Papusica on Jan 20, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah I can't see him making it back to us.

I’m kind of surprised at this deal. I’m not real sure what the wings have to gain from all of this. Unless they are just hoping against hope that he clears waivers.

You have to figure Nabakov is better then a lot of teams #2 goalies. I’m going to laugh my ass off if San Jose claims him.

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by Eddie Apoc on Jan 20, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions

SJ pulled up a University of BC goalie for a "one day trial run"

as their backup against Vancouver today (I remember Phoenix doing the same thing in New York, out of desperation). Thinking about it, I wouldn’t necessarily be surprised if they did try to nab him back. The kid’s stats with the university team are pretty bad. Wouldn’t that be… funny…

by Papusica on Jan 20, 2011 10:54 PM CST up reply actions

Not quite true.

As part of any deal signed after December 1st (maybe Jan 1, missed what they said after the game), he cannot be sent down to the AHL. And that goes for any team that may pick him up off waivers.

So a team can’t just claim a player to keep them from a rival and then hide them in the AHL.

So this isn’t something that is part of the contract he signed, it’s part of the CBA.

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by Robocop on Jan 20, 2011 10:18 PM CST up reply actions

It is part of the contract he signed its just not relevant in that way in this case.

You are right about not being able to send anyone down signed after that though.

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by Eddie Apoc on Jan 20, 2011 10:35 PM CST up reply actions