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Policing Our Own: Bloggers & MSM in the New Media

As a note, this post is only barely Red Wings' related.  We'll get back to that stuff in a bit.  For now, I want to discuss the Blogger/Mainstream Media relationship and how important a name is in what we do.

If you've been following along on Twitter today, you're already aware that there's a Red Wings blogger who stole eight paragraphs of material from the Red Wings' official beat writer Bill Roose today. The piece by Roose (located here on the official Wings' site) discusses the call-up of Gustav Nyquist from Grand Rapids. Unfortunately, if you thought the post ended with this paragraph then you didn't read Roose's words at his own site. What's worse is that there's a chance you had no idea Roose was the author of these words:

Nyquist was the leading scorer at the University of Maine for three years, compiling 50 goals and 94 assists in 113 collegiate games. He left school early to sign a three-year entry level contract with the Wings last March.

But like I said, it's not just those words, it was eight paragraphs. Eight paragraphs of material that were stolen without so much as a link or a mention of their source. Eight paragraphs treated as though the head writer of the RedWingsGuy website had put them together himself.

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Now, it's bloggers who are left to clean up after what's easy to call one of our own. There are plenty of mainstream media types who would throw this as an example of why bloggers should not be allowed anywhere near their hallowed profession (and to Roose's credit, he is not among them; a read through of his Twitter feed from tonight will tell you that). Roose does point out that MSM have their jobs riding on the line for what they do. If a team's official beat writer flat out steals from somebody else, he can and very likely will lose his job. Meanwhile, a large percentage of bloggers live on the blogging edge where they truly are covering their team for the fun of doing it. Losing their reputation can hurt, but for most, it doesn't cost them the ability to make a living doing the thing in which they've been trained.

I'll let my good friend and fellow blogger Michael Petrella from The Production Line take on this point:


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This is exactly how I feel about the situation, summed up perfectly in only three tweets. Petrella has been at this fight longer than I have and has butted heads with this particular blogger in the past. Some feel that there is a certain level of exclusiveness with blogs in the Red Wings' blogosphere (or in those for any team, really). If you're looking for a reason, this is it. Sometimes we don't pay mind to other blogs for this reason (while others, it's simply that we just haven't yet been made aware of great quality content)

The key word Petrella uses here is "community". As bloggers, we have a lot of differing desires for what we want, but the uniting factor is that we all care deeply about the team we cover. I may not have as much to lose as a writer for a national newspaper does, but there's a pride in being part of the blogging community, in sharing ideas and in having a readership who takes you seriously (even when you drop the F-word enough times in a blog post to make your own mother ashamed). I can continue making a living without that, but I'd be less satisfied that way as well.

This is the takeaway from this entire thing. There's a good chance that many of you have never heard about the offending blog before now. There's a good chance that sheer curiosity will drive more of you to that site than would otherwise have visited on any given day. That is something that we'll have to live with. I'm obviously not going to link to it, but I've already said that it's RedWingsGuy and that it's run by Joe Burkel. It would not be difficult to find. I can't keep anybody from checking it out for themselves, nor would I want to if I could help it. Part of being secure in your reputation is trusting that your readership is going to call you out on your bullshit.

After all, if the blogging community has anything to lose, it's your faith in us. Sometimes that means we have to police ourselves. It's unfortunate that no matter what we do, there is always going to be those who will judge the entire community on the actions of those who lack integrity on the low fringe; but we'll keep going, because it's what we love.

(As a follow-up, the offending site has taken down the plagiarized content. Twitter user and Red Wings blogger @inhyung took a screenshot that you can find here for evidence. I'd also like to give a big thanks to WIIM's own Jeff Hancock for pointing out this thievery first thing this morning and for everybody on Twitter who helped spread the word. Thank you all)

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I’ve had someone plagiarize my work before. However, he didn’t seem very smart and sent me an email asking for permission to use my work AFTER he plagiarized my post, so I was able to book him on it and he took the post down.

Plagiarism sucks. At least this guy got caught.

by Kevin Sellathamby on Oct 31, 2011 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Plagiarism sucks. At least this guy got caught.

It’s all we can do, unfortunately. It’s tough building up that reputation and it really sucks to see your hard work stolen like that.

by J.J. from Kansas on Oct 31, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

All I have to say is:

Amen and pass the ammunition!

Manager of the Mursak League's Banzai Bananas. BANZAI!!!

by Dannik99 on Oct 31, 2011 9:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Great stuff J.J.

Glad some justice was served.

Brendan Smith fan

by JeffHancock41 on Oct 31, 2011 10:18 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I saw the WIIM twitter posts earlier

And had no idea what it was referring to, so I was confused as shit. Glad the d-bag was caught.

I hate Jonathon Ericsson.

by Brion on Oct 31, 2011 11:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Hahaha

I love that this guy is decrying the decline of serious journalism, 140 characters at a time.

by meetyourmako on Nov 1, 2011 12:19 AM CDT reply actions  

that’s worth a rec.

by meetyourmako on Nov 1, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was talking about the post.

I don’t need your approval. Good to know that you’re still bitter, though!

by meetyourmako on Nov 2, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad you wrote this, J.J.

I know some people would dismiss it as overblown, but plagiarism of the words of another is really intellectual theft, and is serious. When someone is a writer or artist, the work they have is their thoughts expressed as words and images. Taking them without attribution is stealing their efforts and isn’t harmless.

The tough thing for bloggers is that when this happens in magazines or newspapers it’s seen as an exception, but because blogging is such a new medium and isn’t regulated (a strength, generally, in my opinion) it is easier for those outside of blogging to dismiss it as an indictment of the blogging community in general instead of acknowledging it as an exception among a large group of bloggers who do not think it’s acceptable to lift the words of others and pass them off as their own.

Random nonsense at @Baroque97

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by Baroque on Nov 1, 2011 6:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Site update

As of this morning, the entire site has been taken down. We don’t have details about the specifics, but it now takes you to a GoDaddy landing page.

by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 1, 2011 8:15 AM CDT reply actions  

wow

that is very serious.

Nucks Misconduct writer, inter-blogging etiquette queen.

by missy on Nov 1, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

good stuff J.J.

as a blogger who’s received accreditation before (I was fortunate enough to represent Nucks Misconduct and SBNation at the finals in June), I cringed when I heard about this. We as a team work our asses off over there, and looked at the opportunity as a win not just for the site but for bloggers in general, a nod of recognition that some of us treat this as seriously as those who get paid to do it in print, tv or radio. The actions of this guy give those who try to keep us from invading their club ammo for their “I told you so routine”. It’s so frustrating…

by Kent Basky on Nov 1, 2011 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Great post

Thanks for the insight, this is a really fascinating area and I hope that bloggers can continue to carve out a niche for ourselves alongside the MSM

Contributor to Nucks Misconduct
Editor of Hockey in Society

by nucksandpucks on Nov 1, 2011 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

good stuff

i watched all the tweets yesterday, RT’d a few.
it’s very important to credit our sources, even if it’s a small quote. for my undergrad degree, a mandatory course for economics is a writing course, where we had to properly quote and reference sources in our writing.
like Kent and N&P said, it’s great to have bloggers making a place alongside the MSM, and it’s a shame that a couple bad apples ruin everything. i know, for the last 2 years, SBN has been able to get press credentials for writers at NM and BSH to go to their team’s home games during the SCF’s (i would’ve gone, but Kent went instead).

Nucks Misconduct writer, inter-blogging etiquette queen.

by missy on Nov 1, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Comments update:

Per request, I’ve deleted a comment tree that had information which a poster did not have permission to disseminate. As a result of this, the replies to those comments have also been destroyed. I’m going to try to rebuild those comments in the Replies to this one.

by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 1, 2011 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Your lack of perspective is pretty amazing.

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First of all, there are many, many teams besides Washington that grant blogger access (Philly, Islanders, Nashville, Dallas and Minnesota, just off the top of my head). It’s really not that hard, you can probably identify a handful of sites already that are worthy, and you keep an eye on them once they’re let inside. If they screw up, you revoke access. The real effort is in setting up some ground rules for these folks that are a little more detailed than for the professional media, who are already familiar with the territory.

And it’s not like the Red Wings haven’t done this before. My first press access was for the March 26, 1997 game against Colorado while I wrote for an old site called InTheCrease.com, and I also covered Games 1 & 2 of the 1998 Stanley Cup Final in Detroit, as an amateur online writer (we didn’t have the word "blog" back then).

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by Dirk Hoag on Nov 1, 2011 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions

by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 1, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

“you can probably identify a handful of sites already that are worthy, and you keep an eye on them once they’re let inside. If they screw up, you revoke access.”

That’s what I was thinking with the whole issue of access. Teams can say that bloggers aren’t accountable to anyone, but if you give press credentials to established bloggers with well-established reputations then they very much are accountable – hopefully not to toeing the team line, but certainly to following journalistic ethics and operating at a minimum level of professionalism on the job. Surely the threat of losing a press credential would be enough to regulate the ethical and professional conduct of a blogger?

Contributor to Nucks Misconduct
Editor of Hockey in Society

by nucksandpucks on Nov 1, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions

by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 1, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

“Surely the threat of losing a press credential would be enough to regulate the ethical and professional conduct of a blogger?”

A growing number of teams are starting to think this way too. It doesn’t make sense to work as long as many of the bloggers out there have to get access and then throw it all down the drain.

by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 1, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions

by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 1, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly. It’s not like they would give them out to anyone who sets up a Blogger or Word Press site a week earlier – these would presumably be established sites with reputations to uphold. As you say bloggers would not work so hard to get accreditation just to throw it away.

Contributor to Nucks Misconduct
Editor of Hockey in Society

by nucksandpucks on Nov 1, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions

by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 1, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh Oh

Hope he didn’t get in serious trouble

by Red, White and a Mile high on Nov 1, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

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