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"We may be old, but I was telling Igor that I'd rather be old and smart than young and dumb.  Youth and enthusiasm can only take you so far."

-Brett Hull after Game 3 of the 2002 Stanley Cup final (3-2 triple OT win for the Red Wings)

The kids up in Edmonton have had a fantastic start to the season.  Through the first 15 games of their season, they've earned 20 points and currently sit in first place of the Northwest Division.  Not too shabby for the 5th youngest team in the National Hockey League.  This team is led offensively by their top line made up of  three youngsters:  Jordan Eberle (21), Taylor Hall (19), and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (18).  Also contributing early on are the corpses of Ryan Smyth (35) and Nikolai Khabibulin (38).  

But there aren't enough vets on the Oilers like Smyth and this team's ride is about to end.  As the great philosopher Brett Hull said above, the youth will only take you so far.  Working for the Bruins, I was able to watch the Oilers up close and in-person last night.  Make no mistake, this team has talent, but they were simply over-matched by the older, smarter, vet-filled Bruins team.  Boston stayed disciplined and stuck to their game plan.  The Oilers were able to keep it close based on their pure talent, but eventually the B's system prevailed.  I believe the same fate is in store for the Oilers tonight.  They'll score some goals, but the Wings system will ultimately prevail in the end.

Khabibulin and Devan Dubnyk have played fantastic this season.  The Bulin Wall leads the league in GAA (0.98) and is second in Save% (.964).  But, this team's defense is suspect and after their top two lines the depth just isn't there.  The Wings can't take the Oilers lightly, but they should be able to win this game.  Edmonton has had a fantastic start to the season, but they're team just isn't ready to be at that next level just yet.  They're still a year away.  


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The Expected Lineup

Danny Cleary -- Pavel Datsyuk -- Tomas Holmstrom

Valtteri Filppula -- Henrik Zetterberg -- Johan Franzen

Jiri Hudler -- Darren Helm -- Justin Abdelkader

Drew Miller -- Cory Emmerton -- Patrick Eaves/Fabian Brunnstrom

 

Nicklas Lidstrom -- Ian White

Niklas Kronwall -- Brad Stuart

Jonathan Ericsson -- Jakub Kindl/Mike Commodore

 

Jimmy Howard (starting)

Ty Conklin

 

Scratches:  Todd Bertuzzi (sick), Patrick Eaves/Fabian Brunnstrom, and Jakub Kindl/Mike Commodore

Injuries: Jan Mursak (ankle)

We know Bert is out tonight and tomorrow will an illness.  He's suffering from dizziness and swelling in his ears.  I imagine that if Kindl plays tonight, Commie will go tomorrow.  If Eaves back is doing well enough, I imagine he'll see action tonight or tomorrow and Bruno will play the other game.  

 

OILERS HOW THEY MATCH UP RED WINGS
9-4-2 (20 pts) Record 7-5-1 (15 pts)
2.33 (23rd) Goals Per Game 2.62 (18th)
1.80 (1st) Goals Against Per Game 2.38 (9th)
18.0 (15th) Power Play % 18.5% (T-12th)
86.9% (9th) Penalty Kill % 77.4% (21st)
Ryan Smyth (9 goals)
Goal Leader Johan Franzen (8 goals)
Ryan Smyth (16 points) Points Leader Johan Franzen (13 points)

 

 

  • The Red Wings are 53-36-13-10 (W-L-T-OTL) all-time against the Oilers.
  • Khabibulin is 7-0-2 this season and has won six straight starts.  It's the first time he's done this since 2004 when his streak ended at the Joe with a 1-1 tie.  Well, we know there won't be a tie tonight, but let's hope the streak ends once again tonight at the Joe.
  • Edmonton has only given up five 1st period goals all season.  They've given up 22 total goals in the 2nd and 3rd period combined.  If the Wings can stick to the gameplan and continue to fire the puck on the net, the statistics show that they should be able to wear down the Oilers and find the back of the net as the game goes on.
  • The Oilers are 7-1-1 when leading after two periods.  Obvious key to tonight's game: Don't let Edmonton lead after two.
  • The Wings are 6-1-2 when scoring first.  The OIlers are 6-1-1 when scoring first.  Detroit is 1-4-0 when they don't score first.  The Wings needs to score first, and based of the last bullet, hold their lead through two periods.

 

Prediction: Wings win 4-2.  Darren Helm is your player of the game and the third line has a big night.

 

Let's Go Red Wings.

 

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4-3 Detroit: Datsyuk

Detroit gives up the first goal and wins anyway when Khabibulin awakens from his trance and lets in a softie.

by J.J. from Kansas on Nov 11, 2011 8:13 AM CST reply actions  

3-2 Detroit, Zetterberg

The second line continues their strong play and accounts for all 3 of the Wings’ goals.

by Amerinadian on Nov 11, 2011 8:29 AM CST reply actions  

6-1 Detroit, Datsyuk

might as well milk the offense during a hot streak for all it’s worth, right?

You wanna tell me that to mah face?!
YET ANOTHER Detroit Red Wings blog.

by uvgt2bkdnme on Nov 11, 2011 8:43 AM CST reply actions  

milk milk milk!

Get your Al the Octopus

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by Josh Howard on Nov 11, 2011 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

4-3 Detroit, Abdelkader

I’d like to see Applegator get a hattie, but it won’t happen tonight. I do think this one’s gonna be close…Far closer than it should be. LGRW

Get your Al the Octopus

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by Josh Howard on Nov 11, 2011 8:47 AM CST reply actions  

Am I crazy in wanting Abby to step up and be more of an offensive player if he isn’t going to scrum? I just want more from him.

Get your Al the Octopus

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by Josh Howard on Nov 11, 2011 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

So Todd’s Been-dizzi?

by PieceOfMind on Nov 11, 2011 8:54 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

No no no

Just suffering from a bout of Bertigo.

Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! --George Carlin

by J_Stone on Nov 11, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

5-1 detroit - zetterberg

He’s been playing too good to have so few points 2g, 2a on the night for Z

by Splints on Nov 11, 2011 9:33 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

3-2 wings, howard

Jimmy gives up a pair, but makes a lot of great saves in a Wings win

by HockeyGuy9125 on Nov 11, 2011 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

2-1 Detroit, Mule

I think it will be a close game just because we always seem to get the best out of goalies. Bulin is going to stonewall us a bit, but the Mule is on a hot streak and will get at least one goal, if not two.

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by Dannik99 on Nov 11, 2011 10:07 AM CST reply actions  

4-3 Detroit, Dats

Close game, but the magician is due for a strong game.

by Hornecker on Nov 11, 2011 10:18 AM CST reply actions  

4-3, Cleary

Maybe last game is indicative of Cleary’s health, confidence and competency returning. He’s been driving me crazy this year, but he is a hell of a player when he’s going… working the corners, strong on the forecheck, hitting, shooting, passing… Wings are a better team when Dan Cleary is fired up and delivering.

I see Khabibulin falling from grace a bit tonight. Or at least, I hope to see this.

by Jason T on Nov 11, 2011 10:26 AM CST reply actions  

UPDATE THE FIRST

Uh oh.

BREAKING NEWS: #RedWings may be without Henrik Zetterberg for tonight’s #NHL game vs. @NHL_Oilers at JLA. Stay tuned for story to follow.

Anyone who picked Zetterberg as their PotG (as I did) can go ahead and give us a backup in case he doesn’t play.

by Amerinadian on Nov 11, 2011 10:36 AM CST reply actions  

Say whaaaaa?

That could be significant. Hopefully he’s sitting because he wants to feel better. He’s not looked so hot even though he scored a goal and looks to be trying. Z looks tired.

Get your Al the Octopus

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by Josh Howard on Nov 11, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Apparently he left the morning skate early and is questionable with a “middle body injury”, which could mean that he’s simply sick and nearly shit himself on the ice.

by Amerinadian on Nov 11, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Or, sore back? What’s with all these sore backs? Eaves, Z, and Bert have all had sore backs in the past year.

Get your Al the Octopus

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by Josh Howard on Nov 11, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

damn

I had picked Z for my PotG. I guess I will take Hudler for my alternate if Z misses the game.

by Red, White and a Mile high on Nov 11, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

5-1, Wings, The Perfect Human

Rough break about Hank, but I think we buckle down and frustrate the youthful Oil. Lids has 3 or more points. Unrelated, but apparently Patrick Marleau bought my friends shots in San Jose after their win over the Wild.

by PavelPicasso on Nov 11, 2011 10:48 AM CST reply actions  

5-3 Detroit, Flip

If Z is sick this should be our chance to see how Helm can handle the 2nd line center duties, right?

by EthrDemon on Nov 11, 2011 10:49 AM CST reply actions  

5-3 Det, TPH

15 goals in 3 games. We can totally do it.

I'm a Homer

by holmstrom96 on Nov 11, 2011 11:29 AM CST reply actions  

I'm liking the them of 5-2 tonight

and Pavel Datsyuk finally gets his dangle-dangle going, and gets AT LEAST 3 points tonight

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by MuleRules on Nov 11, 2011 11:31 AM CST reply actions  

theme too*

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by MuleRules on Nov 11, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

4-2, Detroit. Datsyuk POG

Not that it matters much, but the Baby Oil Line is actually their 3rd line and plays some of the most sheltered minutes in all of the NHL. Smyth, Horcoff & Hemsky do most of the heavy lifting.

by AndroBE on Nov 11, 2011 11:32 AM CST reply actions  

4-1 Wings, POG Dats...

If Z is out, Dats will shine…otherwise he’s overdue anyway

by wingsluver4ever on Nov 11, 2011 11:58 AM CST reply actions  

5-3 Wings

Flip will be the PotG.

WIIM Mursak League - Oregon Chumps

by SonicSpeed on Nov 11, 2011 2:08 PM CST reply actions  

So anyone else find it funny that they decided to play their backup against the “stanley cup champions” instead of us on their back-to-back?

I know they say its because we are in the same conference but lets face it 2 points is 2 points and I don’t know any team that doesn’t give themselves the best chance to win all their games.

by Splints on Nov 11, 2011 4:44 PM CST reply actions  

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