Am I the only fan that's willing to ask more from the NHL?
The best thing about the NHL is that with the parity in the league, each team has a superstar to be promoted. I don’t know about you but I hate hearing about C.C. Sebathian and even Justin Verlander in the MLB, I hate hearing about Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady in the NFL, I hate hearing about Lebron James and Kobe Bryant in the NBA and most of all I hate hearing about Sidny Crosby and Alex Ovechkin.
*I've already posted a lot of this as a response to another Crosby thread about how it's such a catastrophe for the NHL that he's out again, but after I heard some radio analysts say that Sidney being out might be the "Death of the NHL" I not only wanted to throw up in the nearest trashcan, but I knew I had to speak my opinion.*
I don't understand how one man can be the life blood of the NHL? I know that having superstars in your league is a good thing, but why can't we be the one league that breaks the mold? For example what if Bettman decided instead of shoving Twit and Twat down our throats in anything and everything NHL related, why don't they support advertising teams own superstars to their own fan bases and regions?
For the sake of being unbiased and fair, i'm going to use a mid level Western Conference team as my example. So why can't the Edmonton Oilers have a star? Nikolai Khabibulin has been on fire and off the rails this season. He's a goaltender that every 5 year old playing his first game of hockey should want to be like. Yet for some reason, instead perspective fans in Edmonton seeing him on a billboard for the NHL we get to see Crosby.
Sidney Crosby is not the end all be all of the NHL and God damn it I wish Bettman would realize that. As much as we try to ignore it, having away Arenas half filled with Red Wings fans is not good for the league, because we can't play every team every night, and I'd hate to see the Penguins become that way too.
Maybe i'm the only one, but I feel like Sidney Crosby's advertisement is hurting the other teams in the league. Why be a fan of your mid ranked hometown team when you can watch Sidney Crosby score goals with his dick? If it's gonna stay this way then why not call the Western Conference the Red Wings Conference, and the Eastern Conference the Penguins Conference?
Am I the only that's willing to ask for more from the NHL?
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Ultimately
It’s the NHL’s job as a league to promote the game and it’s up to each team to promote themselves within their region. There are some teams which do that much better than others. I hate to give credit, but Toews and Kane are minor celebrities in Chicago with the way they’re marketed there (based solely on the stuff I’ve seen watching Versus broadcasts Chicago feeds of their games.
I don’t disagree that the league should be telling more stories and more rivalries, but our commissioner learned at the heels of David Stern and that guy, as evil as he is, grew the game of basketball by elevating certain players to nationwide hero-worship status. I think that (combined with other factors) actually hurts basketball’s credibility.
The thing is that, anymore, it’s not really up to the league. Bettman doesn’t have the authority to tell NBC and Versus which games they’re going to pick up for national broadcast. The league isn’t telling the national media which figures they’re going to run on their promos, and the league can’t tell the press from both countries to stop paying so much attention to Crosby’s every sneeze and every hiccup.
I guarantee you that if you pumped Bettman full of enough truth serum to make him admit that his father was Gepetto, he’d probably tell you that he’d like nothing more than for everybody to be paying maximum attention to the war of words heating up between the Rangers and Flyers in preparation for HBO’s 24/7 series and this year’s Winter Classic.
Trust me on this, the NHL is not paying for Sidney Crosby billboards in Edmonton.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 13, 2011 2:19 PM CST reply actions
I completely agree, but there's some other factors at work here
I think first, we should look at the differences between hockey and the other major sports. I saw a Buccigross column a couple weeks ago that canonized it properly, saying something to the effect of hockey is more of a team sport than any of the other major sports, which is why it’ll never achieve the success those other sports enjoy in America. This society values individual performance above success of the whole, and so more individual-focused sports such as football, baseball, and especially basketball will continue to resonate with the American psyche better than the idea of a 5-man or 3-man hockey unit ever will. I cannot speak to the national psyche of Canadians, so hopefully someone from that side of the border can provide some illustration there.
Which brings me to the second point. Gary Bettman. He used to be an NBA Senior VP, and so he came up immersed in that individual-focused aspect of sports and sports marketing. Then he came to the NHL and brought those ideas with him. This is how we’ve ended up with the league advertising schtick of “Come watch Sidney Crosby and Alex Ovechkin beat the hell out of your small-market, low-budget team twice a year!” I really don’t think he “gets it” in terms of what makes hockey hockey, but he does understand how to put asses in the seats in American arenas. So there’s the rub: the exact things that make hockey the game it is are fundamentally inconsistent (in America) with advancing the ultimate goal of the league, namely to make money.
Finally, and this is unfair, but it is what it is, there are other biases that make hockey less appealing to the masses. I still run into people that complain it’s hard to find the puck while watching on TV. I make two counterpoints: first, have they watched a game in HD? No, well give that a shot. Second, you miss a lot of the action by only watching the puck. Hell, I’m guilty of this too, but it’s the truth and it takes a long time to really understand what’s going on in a hockey game, probably longer than it takes to get to a comparable understanding of what’s happening in a football or basketball game. Finally, a lot of overseas players are less marketable simply because they’re from overseas. Ovechkin’s a counterpoint, but he’s the exception rather than the rule, and I think much of his exposure is because the league (and Bettman, again, with the individual focus) wants to create a feud between him and Crosby. Datsyuk flew under the radar for a lot of years because of very little media exposure due to his relatively weak English. Nikolai Khabibulin’s name is hard to pronounce, and as lame as that is, it’s a turnoff for Joe Schmo who can’t remember a name with that many vowels in it.
As J.J. says above (and I was writing when he posted, so no reply fail), each market is responsible for advertising their own team. I disagree, though, that the NHL has nothing to do with national exposure. Sure, NBC is going to choose games that hit the biggest markets, and sure, the Wings are the biggest road draw in the league, but even though the league isn’t telling the national media who their promos are going to focus on, that doesn’t mean that they can’t showcase players from around the league. Simply by including stars from all the different teams, the NHL will basically force the media to sit up and say, “Oh shit, so-and-so is in the NHL’s promo reel, we should probably make sure somebody’s checking his highlights so we’re not missing out on a story!”
Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! --George Carlin
by J_Stone on Dec 13, 2011 2:42 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I agree on a lot of your points.
But one of my biggest frustrations is that we just accept it all. We realize that Bettman is toying with us and feeding the fans like trained monkeys yet we just make snide remarks and let it go.
I’m not saying I know what i’d be able to do about it, or if it would even help, it’s just really frustrating, and after the 45th article mentioning “Jesus on Skates” is out again, I was fed up and decided to say something about it.
I guess what i’m getting at is if the NHL’s promotion of Crosby makes me feel like my team, the Red Wings, the best team in sports feel inadequate, then I can’t imagine how the Blue Jackets must feel, and in all honesty I think it’s unfair that we’re forced to deal with his bullshit.
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When Michael Jordan was dominating the NBA, did Pistons fans feel bad? I don’t know, but my issue is that Cindy Crosby simply isn’t “dominating” the NHL like someone who is so holier than thou should be. If the NHL was smart, and promoted certain great players when they were at their peak, then it would be a lot better. Stamkos was nasty last year, yet got very little press. That would have worked perfectly with Tampa’s extremely entertaining and dramatic playoff run.
you miss a lot of the action by only watching the puck
I wish I could tell you about what time I stopped actually watching the puck, but at some point, you kind of just know where it is based on how everybody on the ice reacts to it. I was watching a game with a hockey novice where I cheered the instant the puck went in the net. This person marveled at how quickly I was able to react to the goal. I remember saying something along the lines of “You could tell that one was in right off the stick.” Unfortunately, that has to be learned, but once it is, it makes the game second-nature to follow.
but even though the league isn’t telling the national media who their promos are going to focus on, that doesn’t mean that they can’t showcase players from around the league. Simply by including stars from all the different teams, the NHL will basically force the media to sit up and say, "Oh shit, so-and-so is in the NHL’s promo reel, we should probably make sure somebody’s checking his highlights so we’re not missing out on a story!"
I’m not sure I follow you here. NBC is responsible for the promo reels they put out during games (like the Tim Thomas love-fest that they gave in the Thanksgiving showdown where he didn’t play). I guess they could ask NBC to showcase more highlight reels from other players and could ask that they help expose more than just the same six teams they always show to a national audience, but it’s pretty much all network-based on their decisions.
I don’t know though. I watch NHL On the Fly as regularly as I used to watch Sportscenter, so I get a good mix of highlights and discussion about everybody around the league, but I understand not everybody gets NHL Network and it’s definitely clear that NHL On the Fly isn’t a show for the casual fan.
I think the best thing the league could do for their own promotion is to try to increase the pace of the game again. I’d like to see another crackdown on obstruction to try to open the flow so we get more of those awesome goals that not even Sportscenter can ignore.
We may be getting close to a league where we very seriously have to discuss whether to go to Olympic-sized ice or full-time 4-on-4 to get back the natural flow, beauty, and creativity that draws the fans.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 13, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
so I get a good mix of highlights and discussion about everybody around the league
Maybe that’s not entirely true… even NHL on the Fly doesn’t really spend a lot of time talking about the Islanders or the Hurricanes.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 13, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
But are they worth talking about?
Because, honestly, I could really care less how the lower tier (i.e. perennial non-contenders) are doing from day to day. And I think a lot of die hard hockey fans are the same way. Does it suck for fans of those teams who, for whatever reason, have had to move away from the home market? Yes. But I can guarantee that when any of those teams become relevant again, you’ll see the national spotlight pick up a bit more on them.
Puck Following
I have to agree with you. I don’t follow the puck as much as I follow the play. Especially when the puck is along the near boards. You don’t need to see it directly to know where it is and who is moving with it.
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I agree
I don’t particularly care about the teams they don’t cover. When somebody like Skinner puts in another amazing goal that showcases the incredible balance he has, the NHLOTF crew gives him the recognition he deserves, but it’s just like with anything else: bottom-feeder teams don’t get talked about as much as competitors.
Still, I think the coverage balance on NHL Network is quite good.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 14, 2011 7:32 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed
In fact, I’m a little pissed that Uverse doesn’t carry it anymore.
I had dumped the sports package for the summer because, well, it was baseball season, and there wasn’t going to be anything new on NHL Network. But by the time the new season rolled around, Uverse had dropped the channel.
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On following the puck
I do it quite a lot, but I usually seem to look ahead down open passing lanes. Where should I be looking?
Puck watching
Funny u bring that up because I have often joked about my grandpa, who’s eye sight is about equal to a bat, yet he can watch a Wings game from 15 feet away, on a 27in SD boobtube and still follow the play better anyone watching on a 50in HD…. I have often joked that he (nor I for that matter) doesn’t even need to see the puck. It could almost be invisible and other than a couple of floating pucks on the goal line, it would not change the viewing experience. If only more people took the time to see what they’re missing by focusing on the puck, then the NHL would reign supreme.
Truthfully....
I’m for ANYTHING that gets more people to watch hockey. ANYTHING – even marketing the shit out of “name that player”.
I saw an article done by a sportswriter from LA (I think) stating that at first, he thought he’d really miss the NBA, but not so much, because he went to a few hockey games, and all of a sudden – he openly, freely admitted that he likes hockey! Cool!, Awesome!, Good for you! Better for me (and us) because he’s just now finding out what I / we have known for some time – hockey is wonderful, great, awesome to watch and amazing to see live. Wonder why it took him this long – but if the dude is here to stay, I’m all for it.
You hate seeing the Sidney Crosby crap?, well so do I, but only because it’s not Nick Lidstrom.
Yes, I complain and bitch about the NBC announcers as much as anyone, but not any more than I complain about Brent Musberger. So what – if I hate it that much, I’ll turn on the Wings game on the internet and sync the sound to the DVR so I can listen to Ken Kal.
Marketing is one thing, injuries are another – I hate seeing that Sid the Kid is out again with concussion symptoms. That sucks. It sucks worse if you’re a Pens fan, but if you’re a hockey fan at all – it’s bad. He whines too much, but he’s good for the game – he’s got skills, and his pretty face (when Jimmy isn’t giving him a facewash) helps promote the game. He gets on Sportscenter (or SportsCentre – Hi Graham), and it’s good for the NHL that he does.
So promote it all you want, whatever way you want, in whatever form or fashion that you want. It’s all good. If I don’t like it, I have the power to not listen, change the channel or turn my eyes away from the billboard.
That sportswriter
Wasn’t it Simmons? He wrote a piece around the start of the season about having Kings season tickets this year, and that he’d be writing about the NHL this season. He then proceeded to not write a single piece about hockey, and is now in doing a 21 days of NBA Christmas series.
Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! --George Carlin

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