Red Wings Beat Oilers 3-2, Move Back Ahead of Blues in Standings, World Returns to Normal
Western Canada. Mountainous. Plains. Cold.
As a Canadian, there's something romantic about Alberta. The couple of times I have visited left me with a lot of wonderful memories of the sights and the people, both of whom made it a wonderful place to visit. So it's only fitting that the Wings have made some memories of their own there recently, and tonight was no exception. A late goal by Drew Miller allowed the Wings to get out of Edmonton with a valuable 3-2 win and move back into second place in the Central Division.
Dan Cleary opened the scoring when he tipped in a Jakub Kindl shot through Nikolai Khabibulin midway through the first period. The Wings were fortunate to get out of the period only down a goal, as they had to kill off a 2-man disadvantage and were outshot.
The third pair struck for the Wings in the second, but unsurprisingly it was not to their benefit. A pinch by Jonathan Ericsson and brain fart by Jakub Kindl allowed Randy Jones to get a partial breakaway, and he was able to slip the puck under Jimmy Howard to tie the game at 1. The Red Wings regained their lead when Henrik Zetterberg's seeing-eye shot got was tipped by by UFC 156 champion Jiri Hudler past Khabibulin. The corpse of Budd Lynch would make his damn presence known yet again as my new man-crush Jordan Eberle pounced on a blocked shot and scored with 0.5 seconds left to send the teams to the second intermission tied at 2.
The Wings came out in the third determined to end the game, peppering Khabibulin with shots and keeping the Oilers to 3 shots before a late power play for Edmonton. Fortunately, they were able to hold the NHL's 6th best power play shot-less, and the Wings escaped with a 3-2 win.
They're not always pretty, but 2 points are 2 points. Follow the jump for the bullets.
- So, I'd say the Jonathan Ericsson-Jakub Kindl experiment can be called a bust. The two of them were directly responsible for the Oilers' first goal, and they are a dumpsterfire (TM J.J.) every time they are on the ice. We rip a lot on Ericsson around here, but at least when he was paired with Niklas Kronwall there was a sense that if Ericsson pulled a "shitbox" he had someone to back him up. That is not the case with Kindl, so let's get things back to the way they were.
- Holy shit do I hate last minute goals. I know the replay that was aired on FSD showed the puck coming out of the zone right before the goal was scored, but allowing a blocked shot to be leaned in to by Eberle is unacceptable.
- This was a very sloppy game by the Wings. Passes weren't connecting, defensive assignments were missed, and overall the Wings were just off. So what do they do? They turn to their grinders to muck out a win, and the line of Dan Cleary, Drew Miller and Darren Helm spent a lot of time in the Oilers zone and were responsible for 2 of the Wings' 3 goals. They also accounted for 7 of the Wings 28 shots, and were generally the best line for Detroit.
- If we consider the loss to San Jose as the turning point of the Wings' season, then we need to start mentioning the turnaround that Henrik Zetterberg has effected to his season. Since being called out by Mike Babcock, Z has 16 points in his last 15 games, and is back on the plus side of the ledger defensively.
- So, Ericsson caused quite a stir in the game thread, eh? I won't rehash the entire argument, but to sum up: there are those within the Red Wing fanbase who would prefer to see anyone else besides Jonathan Ericsson in a Red Wing uniform for games against other NHL teams. So, here's your chance: convince us all that anyone else is a better fit for the Wings and will make them a better team. You think Mike Commodore is the answer? Why? Want to bring up Brendan Smith since he looked great in 2 whole games (nevermind that whole preseason where he was terrible)? I want you all to go nuts and explain why you think Ericsson should sit. However, for those saying that he played so badly tonight, here's some stats to help you out: per the NHL's official scorer at the game (and JJ can back me up with his own observations), Ericsson was credited with 2 hits (on the road), 1 giveaway and 2 blocked shots. For comparison purposes, Niklas Kronwall had 2 giveaways, as did Nicklas Lidstrom, and only Jakub Kindl had more blocked shots (3).
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I wish I could .gif this first Ericsson penalty so I can share with everybody exactly how awful that call was. Riggy pokes his stick in to prevent a scoring opportunity in front of the net. He never moves it in a hooking manner. He’s actually careful to let Ryan Jones’ shinpad go through the shaft of his stick so he doesn’t trip him up and the ref calls a hook.
Just a truly awful call.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 20, 2011 12:05 AM CST reply actions
I liked how in the box with Kronwall. Kronwall looks at Ericsson and asks what he is in for. Ericsson just shook his head and looked like he mouthed, “I have no idea.”
I'm a Homer
It was Ian White, not Kronwall
Kronwall was in the box later in the game (near the end) for shooting the puck out of play.
If I see Ericsson take another penalty, I am going to snap.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Dec 20, 2011 12:11 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Helm
I voted for Helmer. He seemed like he was a laser guided missile tonight, aiming straight for loose pucks in the offensive end.
As for Ericsson, he sucks. Plain and simple.
I wish for Josh to make a photoshop image of Shitbox with a candid expression that has a caption that reads this: “With Shitbox on the ice, NO LEAD IS SAFE!!!!”
I’d like to see him make an image of Ericsson being whipped brutally while a petulant prince watches Riggy get punished in his stead.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 20, 2011 12:35 AM CST up reply actions
Lol
I seem to remember seeing that somewhere…

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by Josh Howard on Dec 20, 2011 5:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
do yourself a favor
and don’t look up whipping boy… there’s some really screwed up stuff that comes up on google. whatever happened to the children’s movie “the whipping boy”? i don’t remember half naked people being spanked in that one!
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Couldn’t agree more about breaking up Kindl and Rigs. Stuart and Kindl were solid together and the Kronwall/Ericsson pairing I personally thought was above average, if not good.
As for replacing old Riggy, where the hell do we put him if we replace him? No way he’d make it through waivers and he has a NTC. Most importantly (this should go for everyone) WE ARE STILL WINNING GAMES. Its not like Rig is costing us game after game after game, he just has his moments where he’s not good. Or even average. But thats part of life, being a hockey player is a job, and people screw up at work, it happens. Everyone screws up in some games (Pavel fanning on an open net anyone) ripping on Rig has just become the new standard for Wings fans. His screw ups are magnified because its what people have come to expect.
This is the first third of a season with that new deal, give it time, if by the end of the deal we’re all cursing Ken Holland for giving out that contract and marching on the Joe with pitchforks, then I, along with many others will have to accept that he’s just terrible. I personally can deal with having him out there for now, because in all honesty, there just isn’t anyone else that step in immediately. Commie would have looked like a pylon out there tonight against the Oilers, Smith played in 2 games for 15 mins each game, he looked good, but it was 2 games.
This got kind of rambly, but I read the game thread (yeah, I lurk game threads after the game, usually good for a laugh) and had to give my .02
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by traylor1 on Dec 20, 2011 12:58 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Ericsson is not terrible.
He’s terrible for 3.25 million with an NTC. He IS NOT playing up to his contract, period. He’s a decent 5/6 defenseman, nothing more. He’s pretty good on the PK (better than Smith). He’s worth 1.2 – 1.5 million, max. I think Commodore deserves a shot. Obviously, I haven’t been there for the practices, but Rig has been far to inconsistent to be guaranteed a spot in the lineup. Give Commie a chance, and if he sucks it up I’ll eat my words and we can go back to E. Every time (EVERY TIME) 52 is on the ice I get a little more tense. Until Commie proves otherwise, he should at least start a few games. Jonathan Ericsson doesn’t piss off Red Wings fans because he’s terrible. Jonathan Ericsson pisses off Red Wings fans because he’s inconsistent and overpaid.
I bleed Red. No, really.
The only exception i take with what you said is...
“inconsistent”
The only problem i have with ericsson is his paycheck.
He is definitely a $1.5m defensemen at best.
He is actually surprisingly consistent. He consistently makes the average play expected of him.
He consistently makes dunderheaded plays when he’s covering above average players.
I will say I need to go back see the penalty he took tonight, as the first and only view i got was from behind the net and it looked more like the guy (hopkins? i can’t remember) took a bit of a diver on him to draw it. It was definitely a bad time to draw one, for sure. But I’m still not confident it was his fault this time.
However, I do not like his contract at all. NTC. Twice as much.
If we were hellbent on getting rid of him, I’d say let him get grabbed off waivers.
It’s already the worst possible contract anyway.
"I'll smile in June."
by Lords of Olympia on Dec 20, 2011 5:56 AM CST up reply actions
It was Smyth who dove to draw that penalty and as for the first one, like JJ said it was an absolute garbage call. I’ve got no problem with Ericsson. If the patient Mr. Holland sees fit to “preward” him with that contract than I trust him more than some instant-gratification Internet wackos ;). He’s a third pairing D-man. They make mistakes. Hell, TPH makes mistakes.
by loojay on Dec 20, 2011 7:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
haha. You saw that giveaway last night, eh?
by loojay on Dec 20, 2011 9:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
only when i was oot and aboot.
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by Josh Howard on Dec 20, 2011 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
agreed
It’s his contract that really irks me, because it means it’s damn near impossible to upgrade. If he were making half that, less term, and or didn’t have the NTC I’d still be irritated at his play from time to time, but I’d be more understanding and still have hope. Lilja and Salei weren’t perfect by any stretch, but given their salary plenty acceptable. Right now it feels like a long shot that he’ll pay off by the end of the deal.
I put some of the blame on Babs for this last stretch. I’ve been a huge fan of Kindl this season, but he and E52 together is not good. Maybe the combined inexperience is hurting them, maybe it’s easier for the other team to exploit the match up, but for whatever reason it’s just not working.
I've always been up front with my lack of hockey knowledge.
My love for the Wings is on an emotional level and I don’t understand every play on the ice (although, I’m trying to learn more).
That said, I don’t like all the Ericsson hate. He’ll always have my respect for what he did during the ‘09 playoffs and all the great things he said about those of us who worked at the DMC when he had his surgery. I admit to loyalty for that.
I understand all the arguments against him but have to wonder if it’s over the top. It’s hard to believe that none of it gets back to him and how do you get out there and play your best when you’re known as S—-box? What is said in this forum is mild compared to what’s out there. I may be totally wrong, and perhaps feeling too much Christmas love right now, but who knows? As long as he’s wearing that beautiful Winged Wheel, he will have my support.
by InMDmissingtheD on Dec 20, 2011 9:03 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
I’ve got no problems with criticizing a player for his performance on the ice, even if he’s a player on the Wings. No player should be immune from having his play examined, and if he’s playing poorly, then he should be called out for it.
With the Wings, however, there has been a history of a “whipping boy” who bears the brunt of Wings’ fan wrath. Before Ericsson, it was Lebda; before Lebda it was Lilja. It’s not something that’s exclusive to Wing fans, but I’ve always felt that Ericsson’s sheltered performance in the 2009 playoffs set the expectations way too high for when he got a full-time job, and he’s never going to live up to what we all thought he was going to be as a defenseman.
That doesn’t mean that he’ll always be “Shitbox”, but there’s no denying that there’s a lack of consistency to his play. He’s also got that cap hit hanging over his head which won’t ever help his cause.
What I challenge everyone here to do is watch him every time he’s on the ice for at least 1 game; don’t focus on the puck, just watch him, and record when he does something you consider to be right and when he does something wrong. I will speak for JJ here and say that he and I really focus on him because of the attention he gets, and while he is prone to taking bad penalties and making some dumb plays from time to time, he’s not nearly as bad as everyone makes him out to be.
by Amerinadian on Dec 20, 2011 10:11 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Well said...
It should be more about the big picture than just focusing on one guy’s faults constantly. There will always be a whipping boy, it just changes over time. Think about how many people were pissed at Hudler last year. I don’t hear them bitching and moaning now! Everyone should be criticized, but a specific story sticks out to me.
It was from one of my coworkers who walked into the AT&T store out in Novi one day to have her phone worked on. Inside was standing Zetterberg and Ericsson. Or, as she said, two of the most handsome hockey players. She commented that they were extremely nice and were there to give back to fans. The store had not announced yet that they would be there so it was just the employees and them. They eagerly gave autographs to her… even though she didn’t know who they were.. and even chatted with her for around 15 minutes. By the end, Ericsson telling her that she should go to Sweden with him to visit his grandmother since she reminded him of her. It was very sweet and she was excited to have her picture taken.
When she came back, she told me the story and showed me the picture. “Holy crap! You got your picture taken with Z and Shitbox!”, I said. She asked me why I called him that… and you know… I really didn’t have a good reason when it came down to it. No one deserves such a badge of disgust. I got to thinking, about how I was jealous that I wasn’t there. If I was, would I have let that slip?
From then on, I’ve not uttered that name quite like I used to. I’d hate for someone to watch me at work and wait for me to screw-up only to call me a curse word for a name. Perhaps we SHOULD think twice before being too hard on the same player over and over. Call someone terrible when they are, call them good when they are, but think twice before calling them shit…. I’m sure you’ve done something on the job that would be considered a screw up by an onlooker.
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by Josh Howard on Dec 20, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
she offered up the picture
so i think i might post it in a few for anyone mildly interested
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by Josh Howard on Dec 20, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
I would be, if she's ok with having it shared
Why not? SOPA hasn’t passed yet, right?
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 20, 2011 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
She actually asked ME if I wanted it. What’s SOPA?
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by Josh Howard on Dec 20, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
SOPA is a bill they’re trying to pass which would make it ok for them to shut down any site that has copyrighted content posted by users. The text of the bill is meant to only account for sites located outside of the U.S., but it’s written vaguely enough that it can be used to create a sort of internet censorship.
I highly recommend anybody do more research on it and contact your representatives if it’s something that makes you uneasy.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 20, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Here it is...

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by Josh Howard on Dec 20, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Damn!
I’m totally jealous. I’ve had my share of pictures taken with professional athletes (indoor soccer players here in Cleveland), but to meet them (especially Z) would be a dream come true.
yeah.. she didn't even know who they were
i’m still jealous about it.
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