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Kronwall Krunches Kesler, Detroit Doesn't Deliver: Canucks 4 - Red Wings 2

The funny thing about measuring stick games is that someone always comes up short.

With the Red Wings and Canucks both scorching hot coming into their game tonight, it was inevitable that one team was going to assert their dominance over the other, and tonight Vancouver showed why it's only a matter of time before they ascend to their rightful place as the top team in the Northwest.

The Red Wings looked tired and uninterested, and that little thing we like to call "defense", a very big strength for the Wings this season, was completely non-existent, particularly in the first period. The Canucks took advantage of 3 costly errors by the Wings to amass a 3-1 lead that they would never get back, and cruised from there to a 4-2 victory.

It's late and we're all tired, and the Wings played like shit so let's not draw this crap out. Bullets after the jump.

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  • Niklas Kronwall and Ian White both had clusterfucks of periods in the first. Kronner not taking Higgins on the rebound and floating up and out of position on the Burrows goal is unacceptable. White pinching on the Higgins goal and losing the puck at the blueline on the Hodgson goal was terrible. Yea, Kronwall had the hit on Ryan Kesler (more on that in a moment), but he had a game that was forgettable.
  • So let me get this straight: Jannik Hansen can cut to the net, take a tiny love-tap from Zetterberg and use that as an excuse to plow into Jimmy Howard at full speed, and when a rebound is put in the net it counts? On what planet does that count as a goal? Maybe Hansen is just such an awful skater that the slightest little touch causes him to fall down. If that's the case, then I feel really bad for Canuck fans that they have to watch players that can't even skate well enough to be in the NHL. But after seeing Salo fall after being lightly gloved by Bertuzzi right before the first Wings' goal, maybe the ice was bad.
  • Hey Canucks fans, before you get all twitchy at the previous bullet: change the player from Hansen to Tomas Holmstrom and tell me with a straight face that you react the exact same way.

  • The Kronwall hit. What can I say: I've watched the video a bunch of times and I truly believe he left his feet. However, that's not the part that bugs me; it's launching himself ass-first into Kesler that really puzzles me. Jeebus Christmas, Kronner; throw the shoulder into him. Gotta give Kronwall credit for admitting he didn't know whether he left his feet or not, but I have a feeling he could be getting a call from a Mister Shanahan, and it won't be to reminisce about the time they doubled-up on that girl in St. Louis.
  • Ryan Kesler, after the game:

    "I like the hit, but I don’t like the fact he doesn’t stand up for himself," Kesler said. "I think you gotta answer the bell on that one.

    "I gotta get my head up. Obviously you see him backing up and you know that’s his move there. I think you have to put the blame on the ‘hittee’ a little bit, but I also think he’s gotta stand up for himself."

  • Hey, Kesler: Kronwall stood up for himself when he planted his ass in your chest. If you can't take a hit like a man, then maybe you should find another hobby.
  • Another night, another goal from Drew Miller. As one of a few Red Wings who actually showed up to play tonight, it was nice to see the third line get the Wings' second goal on easily their only quality shift of the entire night. That's 5 goals in 6 nights for the gray-headed one, meaning J.J. is going to be looking up some florist's numbers to send Miller a sign of his growing mancrush.
  • At least the Wings' penalty kill didn't suck tonight. Yay for positives!
  • It's been a long time since there was any controversy involving the Wings, and that it came against the Canucks (probably the other big "tin-foil hat" fanbase in the NHL) makes things very interesting for the rest of the league. Who will out-whine who? My money's on us, because we've been doing this longer.
  • So much for this mutual respect and camraderie between Detroit and Vancouver fans. I guess a big hit followed by a controversial goal will really get the bad blood simmering, but we have over a month before these two teams meet again. Things got positively chippy out there and I thought the refs did a brutal job of keeping things under control.

Bottom line tonight is that the Wings did not deserve to win. The Canucks were better in every facet of the game, and every mistake the Wings made tonight ended up in the back of their net. It looked almost as if they let up a little in the second, and even with the power play discrepancies the Wings couldn't do anything to get back in the game. Late when they finally seemed to wake up, Roberto Luongo was there to make some nice saves. The Canucks were simply the better team tonight.

We'd like to sit back and blame the refs and throw out a bunch of angry insults at the Canucks for being dirty, but in the end the refs didn't impact this game, because nothing the Wings did inspired any sort of confidence that they were going to be able to tie up the game. Thankfully, the Wings won't have time to dwell on tonight's shitshow as they fly east to CalgAry to take on the Flames before the Christmas break.

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Coasted to a loss

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Wings had very few quality shots, considering how much they put the puck on net. Kronwall hit was great. Hansen goal was utter shit, but you know what, it needs to happen so that Babcock makes some assistant coaches heads roll to turn our streaky, mostly shit power play around.

If Conklin starts tomorrow, we’ll lose. If Howard starts, I see him having a hell of a game because he is still fiery over tonight.

by shanny14 on Dec 22, 2011 1:44 AM CST reply actions  

What did Kesler want? Kronwall to knock the refs over to come over and “stand up” to him? Kronner would have gone if the refs didn’t come in. Definitely willing to stand up for his clean hits.

by shanny14 on Dec 22, 2011 1:47 AM CST up reply actions  

We need to start Conklin at least a couple games this year

Unless we want Jimmy to keel over by March.

I’ve said it multiple times before, but either let Conk play some games or trade for a goalie who can. Even on rare back-to-back nights we still usually end up starting Jimmy. We’ve played 33 games, Jimmy’s started 29 of them. His only real break came when he left the team for the birth of his son. Since then he’s played 90% of our games. Eventually we’ll have to figure out a solution because Jimmy will need to start resting up for the postseason. The longer we put that off the worse it’ll get.

And I feel that Jimmy’s effort would be better spent beating the shit out of his defensemen for repeatedly turning the puck over and letting him get scored on without his permission than by taking it out on an inanimate object. Besides, the only inanimate object that deserves to get beat up is C.C. Sabathia

Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!

by greg5897 on Dec 22, 2011 2:18 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

The Kesler hit will get a call from Shanny, but I doubt he makes a move on it. It was a borderline dirty hit, but there was no contact with the head and the cut looked to incidental. Shanny hasn’t been going after non-headshots that often so Kronner’s is likely safe, though a fine would not surprise me because he wasn’t penalized.

The one that I think could get a good sit down with Shanny was the Flip hit later in the period in front of the Vancouver bench. The first hit was clean enough (or as clean as you can expect at that point, given how everyone’s blood was boiling holes in the ice at that point). The second hit is the one I think will see a phone call, though. Flip was hit, shooken up and looking to the penalty boxes when the other guy (no clue who it was) skated over and hit him again while he was on one knee trying to get up. Only defense he may have is that it was incidental; that he was skating in for a line change, was going too fast and realized Flip was in his way too late. I only saw one replay, though I do not remember him slowing down. Either way, I think a warning from Shanny may be given, if not more.

To Kesler: he didn’t respond and he didn’t end up in the box. He played it smart. Didn’t work out in the end since you guys scored seconds later while you were in the box, but it was a smart play on his part to let you take the penalties for wanting to stand up for yourself.

Anyway, this games makes me sad we will see the Canucks less often each season. There is really a shot at Avalanche-type bad-blood there, even if our stars and their stars play things safe and stick to the sidelines for the most part.

To Stuart, Bert, Kronners, Abby, et al: we cannot let Jimmy protect himself like that. Ryan Miller is damn lucky he didn’t get suspended for his reactions to the Lucic and Tootoo hits and likely got off without anything because he was the victim. I’m not sure anyone has noticed, but without Jimmy, we fucking lose. We cannot win without him and cannot afford to let him be suspended for trying to protect himself and do your freaking jobs. Smash some heads. Stand up for Jimmy. Stand up for Flip.

by Apocalyptic0n3 on Dec 22, 2011 2:53 AM CST reply actions  

Also

Good on Kesler admitting he needs to keep his head up. If half the players would admit this, and act on it, the game would be a much better place.

by Apocalyptic0n3 on Dec 22, 2011 2:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Also Also

The PoTG was the entire Drew Miller line. He, Helm, and Cleary are acting like they are the heart and soul of this team right now. Much like last season when the fourth line of Miller-Helm-Eaves carried us for a good month, though I hope we don’t hit a point where we are forced to need them to do that again.

And Ian White: WEAR A DAMN VISOR

by Apocalyptic0n3 on Dec 22, 2011 3:09 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

when the other guy (no clue who it was) skated over and hit him again while he was on one knee trying to get up.

It was Kesler

by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 22, 2011 7:17 AM CST up reply actions  

…awesome. If Kesler gets suspended and Kronwall does not… awesome.

by Apocalyptic0n3 on Dec 22, 2011 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Someone needs to break the next Lucic-ites face. It shouldn’t have to be Jimmy.
And fuck Kesler for that late hit on Filpula.

Also, through watching some of Vancouver’s fans statements after the game, I’ve come full circle to hate their entire organisation. Classless.

by shanny14 on Dec 22, 2011 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

oh what a night

late december back in….glad to see miller at least showed up. kudos to kronwall for the hit but next time stay on your feet. attention all skaters not named Jimmy Howard…stand up for each other out there! don’t let jimmy get knocked around or flip or anyone else for that matter. what a clusterfuck tonight’s game was. harkened back to the streak if you know what I mean. and for god’s sake babcock, give jimmy a rest! if conklin isn’t the answer, then at least bring macdonald back. maybe conklin needs to play down in grand rapids for a spell. least he’ll be playing there as opposed to sitting on the bench with the Wings.

hope tomorrow’s game isn’t a shitfest like tonight’s was. be nice to see the Wings beat the Flames right before christmas break. next week is going to be a tough week. 3 divisional opponents, all rivalries. time to make up ground and maybe put some distance between. nashville, st. louis (2), and chicago. and since we’re chasing chicago, and since they won tonight and the Wings didn’t, they now have a five point lead before they meet up friday evening at the united center. and we do owe st louis and nashville a little payback. first time meeting chicago this season. should be interesting. Hawks score a lot of goals, but they also let in a lot of goals. and their defense aint the greatest but again, they score a lot of goals. I expect an effort from the Wings like they had against Boston. I don’t mind if they lose but only if they really competed hard and the bounces didn’t go their way, sort of like nashville last week Thursday.

Speaking of Eaves, what’s the latest on his progress? indications he’ll return soon? Mursak is skating now so that’s a positive. He will be a welcome addition back to the forward corp. seriously though DRW management, start giving jimmy some time off. he’s earned it. and if you, as much as we, want to see your team go deep into the playoffs, he needs to be rested and not fried. was pissed when Wings signed conklin and not emery. emery’s the reason why the senators made it to the conference finals a few years back. he’s looked great in relief of crawford, and conklin? is it just me or is the one DRW commercial with the guys cleaning, doing maintence, etc…and conklin is plunging the shitter…how appropriate is that?

"If we knew what the outcome would be it wouldn't be called hindsight."

by wjr on Dec 22, 2011 3:24 AM CST reply actions  

Still out for another month if I remember correctly

Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!

by greg5897 on Dec 22, 2011 6:14 AM CST up reply actions  

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