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Morning Skate: Groundhog Day

Lidstrom posing for the eventual diamond statue outside of Joe Louis Arena.

Finally, the All-Star break is over and the Red Wings are back on the ice tonight. The Wings have left the sweltering beach that is the state of Michigan for the ice in Scotiabank Place in Ottawa. The Wings were hoping to have Pavel Datsyuk back in the line-up tonight but he's still not quite ready. However, it looks like Dan Cleary will return to the line-up tonight.

Last night, the Senators dropped a 2-1 decision to the Devils, the Red Wings' most recent opponent. In their last 15 games, the Senators are 2-9-4 and have allowed 5+ goals on 4 separate occasions (including a 7 spot and two 6-ers). To say the ship is sinking for the Sens is a pretty fair statement at this point and the retooling will likely begin sooner rather than later.

"I'm open for business, yes, you can get that word out if you want," Sens GM Bryan Murray told us, his sense of humor still intact.

"We now know where we are," Murray added in a serious tone, referring to the team's 13th-place standing in the Eastern Conference at the All-Star break, 15 points out of the last playoff spot. "As disappointed as we may be, we have to do something to rectify it."

This statement from Murray to ESPN's Pierre LeBrun is pretty indicative of the team's position at this point in the year and when that thought is floating around the locker room, it can't mean good things.

Silver Seven is the SB Nation Ottawa Senators' page, take a look.

Preview and prediction form after the jump...

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  • Jimmy Howard will start in net tonight for the Red Wings. The added time off for the All-Star break should have given Jimmy some much needed rest as well as allowing any remaining soreness to dissipate. The Senators are near the bottom of the barrel in goals per game (2.14--29th) and shots per game (28.8--24th) so Howard can't afford to have a stinker against a team that's struggling so much on offense.
  • *Added thanks to JJ*: Happy birthday to resident murderer and Petrella's favorite player, Todd Bertuzzi! Bert turns 36 today. Bert's been a pretty good asset to the team this year and although his offensive numbers are quite what we'd hope for, he's doing a great job defensively as well as scaring the hell out of any opposing players.
  • Daniel Alfredsson leads the Senators in goals with 14 and Erik Karlsson, the lone Ottawa All-Star selection, leads them in assists with 21. The two each have 29 points on the season.
  • The Senators have ONE player that is a plus, David Hale with a +3. Chris Phillips is a -25 and Sergei Gonchar is a -17. As we all know, +/- isn't everything but...damn.
  • Ottawa turns the puck over quite a bit (7th most in the NHL) so this makes you wish even more that Pavel Datsyuk was back.
  • Something to watch tonight will be how Dan Cleary plays in his return. Cleary was on pace for a stellar season but will he pick up where he left off? That's not to say that if he doesn't score tonight it's all gloom and doom but rather how he plays in the offensive zone overall.
  • For Discussion: going back to the part about the Sens trading players away, which player would you most like to see on the Wings? With the exception of Alfredsson (who they'll never move) and Sergei Gonchar (who they just got).
  • Score Prediction: 4-2 Detroit. This isn't a must win but it's a holy-crap-we-really-can't-lose-to-the-Senators type game
  • Player of the Game Prediction: Since I'm always wrong, I'll go with Jan Mursak.
  • Around the league: Jordan Staal cheapshotted Brandon Prust but the Penguins beat the Rangers in a shootout, the Blackhawks scored 4 unanswered goals to beat the Blue Jackets 7-4, the Flames beat the Preds in a shootout, Vancouver moved to 1st place overall after beating the Stars 4-1 and the Sharks topped the Coyotes 5-3

 

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also...Happy Bert-day?

I full expect a punch to the gut at H2H2 for that one.

by Casey Richey on Feb 2, 2011 8:09 AM CST up reply actions  

7-0 Detroit, Franzen

this Ottawa team is hopeless. through two periods of last night’s game against the Devils, the Senators managed a TOTAL of six shots on goal. the only reason i don’t have Detroit putting up double digits is because they love to start out slow, and coming out of the All-Star break, that’s probably going to happen especially against a team that already has its legs under them after the Senators played last night. but MAN is this team awful without Spezza, especially the goaltending!

also: there were a ton of shootouts last night.

by uvgt2bkdnme on Feb 2, 2011 8:19 AM CST reply actions  

Love the confidence...

but these teams always seem to comeback ready to fight against the Wings.

by wingsluver4ever on Feb 2, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

6-1 Wings

With Cleary coming out strong off his injury.

Dancing Datsyuk Decidedly Dazzles Dainty Defensemen

by Robocop on Feb 2, 2011 9:01 AM CST reply actions  

5-2 Wings, Rafalski

Greetings from snowy Chicago, where we’ve gotten 18" already and it’s still freaking snowing. At this point I’m still happy I’ve got internet and power, but from what I’m hearing, that may not be the case all day. However, the bad part about working from home is that, while my office is closed, I am stuck working.

I have no idea why The Brain is going to have a good game, but it’s a hunch. Casey, I agree that if the Wings lose this, it will be a pretty depressing way to start the second half of the season.

by Amerinadian on Feb 2, 2011 9:15 AM CST reply actions  

Yep

Shoveled the driveway last night around 11:30 just so it would not be that bad today. The drifts were above my knees, and when I went out there today to inspect, the drifts were above my knees.

Oh, and it’s still snowing. There’s talk we will easily hit 2’.

by Amerinadian on Feb 2, 2011 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

man that's a lot.

i doubt we’ve gotten that much all winter.

by Casey Richey on Feb 2, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

lucky it missed....

us up here in NW Michigan…looks like only got 6-8 inches, but quite a bit of drifing that closed schools…including colleges. But temps have been horrid. I don’t think it’s reached 25 degree during the day in 2-weeks.

by wingsluver4ever on Feb 2, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

We got a foot out here..

but our snow drifts reach up to 4-5 feet. But I can’t complain seen as we were projected to get 15", although it’s still snowing so who knows where we will end up. All I know is that my parents neighbor’s are godly people who cleared our driveway for us, so we only have about 3-5 inches to clean now once it stops.

by NatiTalia on Feb 2, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

i'd rather take your 18" of snow

than the slush we’re getting here in Providence. thankfully had only one class today, but i had to walk through 1/3 mile of mushy ice and intense puddles downhill. it’s depressing, even if the trek isnt that bad considering i’m wearing good shoes.

a Red Wings loss tonight would just cap off a depressing day too cruelly. i’m looking forward to tonight to forget about this weather.

by uvgt2bkdnme on Feb 2, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Bertuzzi's birthday

and a crippling blizzard hits half of the country. Coincidence? I think not.

"I'm a simple man. I like pretty, dark-haired women and breakfast food" - Ron Swanson

by rock n rye on Feb 2, 2011 9:24 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I see what you did there...

That can only mean good things for tonight’s game.

by Papusica on Feb 2, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

3-1 Lidstrom

Why not? I’ve been loving all of the pics of him (and their captions)being put up on WIIM, so I might as well support my favorite!

There is no offseason.
My icon was drawn by Samara Pearlstein, talented artist/blogger at Roar of the Tigers.

by Tigers&WingsFan on Feb 2, 2011 9:44 AM CST reply actions  

I love....

all the respect he’s getting from players around the league. He’s a player’s player, coach’s dream and down-to-earth guy that gets respect from staff and fans alike…too bad his son is so young yet. Think Wings will have a chance to draft him? Or, will another team snap him up fast cuz Nick raised him?

by wingsluver4ever on Feb 2, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Gahh I'm soo excited

I know it only has been 1 week…bu this feels super awesome!

"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)

by Igorzba on Feb 2, 2011 10:09 AM CST reply actions  

5-2 Wings! --> Hank

his back is all rested up

"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)

by Igorzba on Feb 2, 2011 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

3-1 Wings... love for the birthday boy

I’m back. Got back from Colombia late Monday, and now I’m snowed in at my parents house. Doesn’t matter seen as half the state is completely shut down. Wings win tonight. That is all.

by NatiTalia on Feb 2, 2011 11:02 AM CST reply actions  

Lidstrom posing for the eventual diamond statue outside of Joe Louis Arena.

Seriously. Love Gordie and the gang, but Bronze does not do #5 justice.

by Nate A on Feb 2, 2011 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

4-2 Wings - Franzen 2 goals

Go Wings!

LETS GO RED WINGS!

2011 will be the year....better be....

Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."

by TuLoRocks2008 on Feb 2, 2011 11:16 AM CST reply actions  

5-1 Wings, Z as POG....SNOW DAY!!!!!!!!

Wings take down a bad Senators team tonight. Many players will have good games, so I’ll take Z as the POG.

I am enjoying a snow day by drinking some beer, playing some football in the snow, and not doing anything that really benefits myself, the university of michigan, or society in general….today is a great day

by HockeyGuy9125 on Feb 2, 2011 11:44 AM CST reply actions  

5-2 Wings, Z

My MSU snow day will be punctuated by the Wings getting back to their winning ways. So looking forward to it.

by Dubie on Feb 2, 2011 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

Man I hope they win tonight

just because it’s one of those games they seem to love to lose. You know, the ones they are absolutely and completely capable of winning. I’ll miss the end of the game because i’m going to the Coyotes-Canucks game so I’m really hoping they dominate and let me leave with the solid feeling that they’ve got the win in the bag.

Also, the Canucks totally brought their Western Canada weather with them. Now, I completely recognize that pretty much everyone here is far worse off weather-wise than we are here in hell a.k.a. Phoenix, but it’s pretty freaking chilly! I mean, for here. It must be in the high 20s at my house and with 20mph sustained winds, the windchill is in the teens. I know, I know, you’re all below zero with 25 feet of snow and counting, but nobody here is used to this. Someone I know from school saw ice this morning and seems traumatized. I don’t know how to help him. I think he’s originally from California so this is really hard on him. I’m going to go out soon and I’m expecting everything to be deserted :P. I like this weather honestly, but I stupidly left the window open last night- normally fine with this weather but the wind has been blowing straight in since yesterday so it’s almost as cold in here as it is out there. I think I’m going to have to wear my winter coat, which usually goes untouched if I don’t leave the valley for a colder climate at some point in the year. Usually the sun is enough to keep these kinds of temperatures from requiring gear that intense, but this wind! Okay. I can’t feel my fingers. I don’t even know what they are typing now. Go Wings! Hope you all stay warm and dry and… don’t go hungry due to being trapped in your respective abodes for days. Enjoy your snow day!

by Papusica on Feb 2, 2011 12:49 PM CST reply actions  

4-3, Detroit

Cleary for PotG, why not?

I’ll trade the 2 feet of snow for the bitter-ass cold I’ve been dealing with the last couple days. NWS had us under a Wind Chill Warning; I didn’t even know such a thing existed, and now that I do, I never want one again. Too cold to breathe = entire world can get bent.

Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! --George Carlin

by J_Stone on Feb 2, 2011 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

We are not going to score 3 goals

Are you crazy!?

Trying to be Erik Karlsson's agent since October, 2010.

by Adnan on Feb 2, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

i would be inclined to agree with J_Stone

the Red Wings have a penchant for giving away games that should be a full 2-point regulation win on paper.

now, i would be inclined to agree with him, but today, i’m just predicting a full-on blowout tonight, no offense to the Senators. they’ve been an offensive train-wreck since Spezza went down, and Leclaire, for all his made-of-glass injuries, could at least stabilize the goaltending if he were healthy.

by uvgt2bkdnme on Feb 2, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Hah none taken

Trust me, I make fun of the Sens all the time. ;)

I think the Sens will be totally outplayed, but I am hoping Lehner will put in a good performance to keep it respectable.

Trying to be Erik Karlsson's agent since October, 2010.

by Adnan on Feb 2, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Lehner's playing?!

i wish i knew that before i threw in my prediction earlier . . .

now it’s just 3-0 Red Wings, as opposed to earlier’s 7-0 demolition.

by uvgt2bkdnme on Feb 2, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Come on now

We will get 1 goal, you will see!

Trying to be Erik Karlsson's agent since October, 2010.

by Adnan on Feb 2, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

David Hale hasn't played for us since November

And he only played 13 games.

So we actually have no one on the current roster that is a plus. :/

Trying to be Erik Karlsson's agent since October, 2010.

by Adnan on Feb 2, 2011 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah i meant to make note of the 13 games but when you’re switching windows while at work trying to write it you forget sometimes. Thanks though!

Is Elliott the expected starter?

by Casey Richey on Feb 2, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope Robin Lehner

He is the goaltender of our future! He played well last night (stopped 31 of 33 shots) and kept us in it.

Tonight will be his first home start. I am expecting something like Wings outshoot us 50-18 and Wings win 2-1 or 3-1. Though of course we could also lose 8-1. :/

Trying to be Erik Karlsson's agent since October, 2010.

by Adnan on Feb 2, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah okay, yeah i saw he had played last night but Elliott had gotten a bunch of starts recently.

And this could totally be a game where the Wings outshoot their opponent like 50-3 and still lose. They seem to have a lot of those games.

by Casey Richey on Feb 2, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Elliott has lost 11 in a row

He hasn’t won since December 26. We have lost 7 in a row, 13 out of 14, and also haven’t won at home since December 26. We also haven’t scored 3 goals since January 13.

I guess when things are THAT against you, it might be just crazy enough to win. ;)

Trying to be Erik Karlsson's agent since October, 2010.

by Adnan on Feb 2, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

damn, now i realllly wish Elliott were starting. that and so i can use this:

by Casey Richey on Feb 2, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm making no predictions

Because I suck at it. However, I am interested to see how real hockey looks on my new television (as opposed to all-star-game-type-hockey).

I called in and intended to go to work after noon, but I had to stop shoveling several times to get feeling back into my fingers and let my back rest – so I didn’t finish until 2:00 this afternoon, and then I had to shower, plus I have a cough from sucking in so much cold air…

So, despite my best intentions I didn’t make it to work. #ohwell

Random Ramblings from a Somewhat Scattered Mind

"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)

by Baroque on Feb 2, 2011 2:47 PM CST reply actions  

What do you mean you suck at predictions?

You’re one of the highest-rated predictioners in our contest.

by J.J. from Kansas on Feb 2, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

if you suck, what does that make the rest of us low-lifes who’re just scrounging every PotG point we can because the score is so unpredictable?

by uvgt2bkdnme on Feb 2, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I got my first one right

And then got a whole bunch wrong. There was a high-scoring game that Detroit won that I predicted as a 2-1 Detroit loss, for example.

Random Ramblings from a Somewhat Scattered Mind

"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)

by Baroque on Feb 2, 2011 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

As long as I am still making predictions, you are not allowed to use “I suck at it” as an excuse for not making predictions.

Dancing Datsyuk Decidedly Dazzles Dainty Defensemen

by Robocop on Feb 3, 2011 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Or those of us...

like me that don’t even have a point = (

by wingsluver4ever on Feb 2, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

NHL Gamecenter question.

Thinking of purchasing the remainder of the season on NHL Gamecenter – especially considering some recent seizures by ICE. Obviously, the $119 for the rest of the season seems a little steep. Does anyone know if there will be a price drop anytime soon?

by ChuckyD on Feb 2, 2011 3:02 PM CST reply actions  

To be honest, I’m not sure what the price at the start of the season was so I can’t compare. I know Center Ice went down in price to their “half-season price” which is still like $120 or something.

by Casey Richey on Feb 2, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

It was about the same price as Center Ice to start.

So like $160 or $170. I bought the half-season right after they dropped the price to $120. Turns out I need it for school. Dammit. Anyway I don’t know if they drop the price again before the end of the season, although that seems somewhat unlikely to me- just seems uncharacteristic of them. I don’t like that the price isn’t closer to half of the original, since you’re paying for half the season (and maybe some playoff games), but whatever. They had me and they knew it. I do long for the HD of Ice because watching hockey in HD is just so magical, but the archive is really great and a feature I actually do use, so I guess that’s the trade. Well, and obviously the portability and ability to access the games no matter where I am as long as I have an internet connection.

by Papusica on Feb 2, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

That sucks

Its going to be tough to justify the $120 for whats left of the season. Should have jumped on it earlier.

by ChuckyD on Feb 2, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

5-2 Buckets

He’s back. I have him on my fantasy team. I hope he score all 5. But if not the wings winning is good too. We can not lost this game. Lets set the tone for the rest of the season Detroit!

by holmstrom96 on Feb 2, 2011 3:31 PM CST reply actions  

5-2 wings

Zetterberg. Man it really feels good to be back after the all star slumber. Time for some real hockey

"I was in the pool! I WAS IN THE POOL!I was in the pool! I WAS IN THE POOL!"

by bharatwaj5 on Feb 2, 2011 4:18 PM CST reply actions  

4-1, Wings, POG Cleary

Jimmy going to allow only 1 to continue 1 game trend started with Devs last week…gee, it seems so long ago. Cleary is going to be so happy to be back that he shines. (NOTE: Realizing I haven’t picked score of POG right, not even once, yet)
 
BTW Casey, today is 2/2 not 2/1 (see submission form). =)

And, happy 36 to Big Bert!!! Go get’em, big guy.

by wingsluver4ever on Feb 2, 2011 4:48 PM CST reply actions  

I see Cleary is back, but not Dats?

Is he day to day? or longer setback? Not sure if I will watch as the last time I turned it on, it was disaster.

by Thever on Feb 2, 2011 4:49 PM CST reply actions  

Read that Dats said he wasn’t strong enough yet, so couldn’t get enough power behind his passes/shots….but is progressing day-by-day. He hopes to be in this weekend.

by wingsluver4ever on Feb 2, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

thank you

you are a fount of knowledge

by Thever on Feb 2, 2011 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

okay, I'll predict

Pulling out of thin air: 3-2 Senators, POG Lidstrom. #WAG

Random Ramblings from a Somewhat Scattered Mind

"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)

by Baroque on Feb 2, 2011 5:36 PM CST reply actions  

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