Open Thread: Game 1 in Boston, Philly and SJ
by Casey Richey on Apr 14, 2011 6:45 PM CDT
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Here's your open thread for tonight's non-Wings games. Talk away.
VIEWING SCHEDULE:
MONTREAL CANADIENS (6) at BOSTON BRUINS(3)
STARTING GOALIES: Carey Price (MON), Tim Thomas (BOS)
TIME: 7:00 PM ET
TV: VERSUS, NESN, CBC, RDS
BUFFALO SABRES (7) at PHILADELPHIA FLYERS (2)
STARTING GOALIES: Ryan Miller (BUF), Sergei Bobrovsky (PHI)
TIME: 7:30 PM ET
TV: CSN-PHILLY, MSG-BUFFALO, TSN
LOS ANGELES KINGS (7) at SAN JOSE SHARKS (2)
STARTING GOALIES: Jonathan Quick (LA), Antti Niemi (SJ)
TIME: 10:00 PM ET
TV: VERSUS, TSN, FS-W, CSN-CA, RDS
Storylines for each series after the jump
MONTREAL vs. BOSTON
There is about a 3,000 page history that could be written about this rivalry and one of the more dramatic chapters was written by Zdeno Chara and Max Pacioretty. This is a fierce and brutal rivalry so it should be an entertaining game. Tim Thomas is heading into the playoffs as the heavy favorite for the Vezina Trophy, but will his regular season success translate to the playoffs?
BUFFALO vs. PHILADELPHIA
Philadelphia and Buffalo both had their struggles late in the regular season with injuries and losing games they should have won. Ryan Miller missed time, but is ready to go for round 1 of the playoffs. Is he fully recovered yet and after several games late in the regular season of bad performances, will the Flyers flip the switch back to on?
LOS ANGELES vs. SAN JOSE
This West Coast tilt will be interesting as the Sharks have been playing very good hockey lately and the Kings are without their best scorer Anze Kopitar. Are the Kings in serious danger or will Jonathan Quick be a playoff hero?
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Yeah...I meant to hit "schedule for publish" but I didn't...
Oh well…let this serve as an open thread for the off-day until the games start.
And….GO!
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schedule for publish
so that’s why some of these posts arrive at some ungodly hours of the morning on the hour . . .
by uvgt2bkdnme on Apr 14, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Tim Thomas the heavy favorite to win the Vezina? Understatement of the year, right there. One of the best seasons, statistically at least, a goalie has ever had and easily the best since Hasek was dominant in the late 90’s.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Apr 14, 2011 12:02 PM CDT reply actions
I hope that one day Tim Thomas might be another one of the Red Wing’s older-player/hometown-hero acquisitions.
2-3 years from now, coming home to backup Jimmy? Hell yes.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Apr 14, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He should win the Hart
RECORD-HIGH saves percentage.
No team benefited more from having one player on their roster than Boston benefited from having Thomas.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 14, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I would agree. But who was the last goalie to win the Hart? Hasek in 98-ish? I don’t think Brodeur ever pulled it off. Maybe Theodore that one year he was unstoppable?
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Apr 14, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Theodore won it
It’s unfortunate, because the Vezina is basically the Hart for goalies. It otherwise would be TOO easy to give a goalie the Hart, since he’s just about always on the ice for the team.
I just think that Thomas’ historically huge numbers in an era where scoring is on the rise, combined with no real huge front-runner between the forwards (since D-Men don’t win the Hart anymore either) should combine to give it to him.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 14, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I would say there are three front runner forwards. Both Sedins and Corey Perry (the likely winner). At one point, the clear front runners were the Sedins and Kesler. All three were freaking Canucks.
That said, they need to introduce a “Best Forward” award and return the Hart to being what it should be.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Apr 14, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Three front-runner forwards should help Thomas
Since none of those three are far-and-away ahead of Thomas… Especially since two of them are Canucks.
For the history:
Hasek won it two consecutive years (97+98). The last goalie to win it before Hasek was Jacques Plante in 1962.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 14, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
And yeah, I thought he had, but didn’t remember for sure. Did Brodeur or Roy ever win it? I wouldn’t be surprised either way, honestly.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Apr 14, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
So which team is going to have the best shot at the upset?
My money is on the Canadians between the three. I just don’t think Buffalo is strong enough to win the series, Miller might steal a game or two but I think that’s it. Also with Boston I don’t know I guess I haven’t really paid to much attention to them, but I just think out of the 3 series going tonight there the weakest of the top seeds.
I am going to go with Buffalo
they are on a nice hot streak right now and Philly is really not playing their best…I think Philly and Boston both win, but Buffalo has a better chance than Montreal based on how the teams have been playing…
by HockeyGuy9125 on Apr 14, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
Complete and utter BOMB. I reached down to pick up my iced tea when I saw Staal with the puck and when I looked back up I saw Semin’s stick in the air and heard a PING off the back post.
by Red Wing Nut on Apr 14, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
God
Guy scores all of his goals in the 3rd or OT. He just knows thats its time to score and does it. Saved my team a couple times for GWGs this last year in fantasy. Wish the Rangers won. I don’t need the Caps fans to be more obnoxious than they already are…
Yeah I saw it was a good shot although I prefer it of Rangers won, would have been funnier
Last night was definitely the story of goalies for all the series
So Z skated today
I’m thinking he’ll miss game 2 and be back for game 3.
I don't want him rushed back...
If the Wings win game 2…keep him out of game 3 for sure. We need him at a close to 100% level to win the cup and if things are going well against phoenix, there is no need to bring him back faster than he is ready for. If he is only starting to skate today, there is no way he can be close to his normal level of awesomeness by game 3 ( i think, I am nowhere near an expert on injuries, but doesn’t this seem like common sense)
bottom line: don’t rush him back unless things start to go south against phoenix
by HockeyGuy9125 on Apr 14, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on the injury
If it’s just a sprain, one could go from say, riding on golf cart to get around, one day, to completely healed within a week. Been there, done that (minus the golf cart).
Here's an idea
Let’s all go over to Jewelsfromthecrown tonight to cheer against the Sharks (not FOR the Kings, mind you).
Then, no matter how the game turns out, we won’t comment at all on their site tomorrow.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 14, 2011 2:25 PM CDT reply actions
does it count if i'm more or less a regular there?
and actually cheer FOR the Kings when they don’t play the Red Wings?
by uvgt2bkdnme on Apr 14, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
same here
watching the Habs/B’s now
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 14, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
boston v montreal is fun b/c it seems high-paced intensity though a little sloppy.. great crowd atmosphere
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)
Go Kings!
even though they won’t win…nice to see Justin Williams come back early though…wish they had Kopitar
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
especially against us
on the extremely good part lol
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 14, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I love the kings; especially Anze --> hopefully they can muster a fight w/o him
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)
me too
they are the team I would root for in the West if the Wings were out
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
by TuLoRocks2008 on Apr 14, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
i think it's more
Quick has had bad games more often in the second half of the season. on the flip side, he always bounces back after a bad game. otherwise, i think his average performance is pretty good.
of course, i dont know how accurate my assessment of the stats is; it’s just my perception.
by uvgt2bkdnme on Apr 14, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm watching as long as I can stay awake.
As a reminder (since I didn’t see anybody else report it), if you see a head shot (like the Jarret Stoll board on Ian White), please report it in the This Week in Head Shots form.
I’m afraid that I missed some last night between the Preds and Ducks too.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 14, 2011 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
will try to remember
i would’ve considered the Stoll hit as more of a boarding incident than a headshot, so i myself wouldn’t have reported it.
by uvgt2bkdnme on Apr 14, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
It definitely was boarding
And I did say to use your own judgment, but I’d ask that people err on the side of overreporting rather than under. It looked like he hit White directly in the head. Even if he hadn’t, I’d take a boarding penalty that involves a guy going head-first into the glass as a head shot.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 14, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Kings first goal
Logan Couture took shooting lessons from Jason Williams
so it looks like the Kings haven't left behind their regular season habit
of letting the opponent right away get back the goal the Kings scored
bad goal for bad goal
Couture, Williams. Quick misplays Couture’s shot; Sharks get crossed up behind their own net.
I can't decide what the fact that he Sharks aren't up 5-0 should be telling me.
The Kings aren’t playing that well through two, but the Sharks are not pouring it on. But, I will say that Quick has played fairly decent (2nd goal notwithstanding).
The Sharks should be able to sweep the Kings – I’m hoping and praying against that, but the fact that this game is tied through 2 gives me hope.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 14, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
how did the Kings score their two goals?
on an odd-man rush off a terribly missed shot attempt at the other end, and a horrible miscommunication behind the Sharks’ net.
so for now, the Kings are making the most of their opportunities—i haven’t checked numbers, but from the looks of the JtfC comments, the Kings were being outshot big time—while they also ended the second period with momentum and some control over the game. it probably would have helped if i had seen the Sharks’ first goal (since apparently it happened pretty early in the game) and how the Kings reacted.
by uvgt2bkdnme on Apr 14, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The first goal was just shell-shock on the first shift. There wasn’t really much of a reaction at all. Basing it off the very first shift is hard, but for a physical team like the Kings, it was a bit weird to see them not running every Shark they saw.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 14, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
both sides
aside from a few big hits, i’m inclined to think that this game’s been less physical than expected, especially comparing to the third period i saw from Coyotes/ Red Wings.
by uvgt2bkdnme on Apr 14, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad to see
so far in the third, I’d say LA is outplaying the Sharks. San Jose is starting to look a bit frustrated.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 14, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
San Jose with their first flurry of the third
probably what a lot of people were expecting. i think all three of LA’s forwards were caught as the puck left, so not back pressure led to a scoring chance and the rest of that shift. first time all period.
by uvgt2bkdnme on Apr 14, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Watching VS. graphics...
and explain plays, is like watching a dog do differential equations.
Seriously, that sucked.
kind of makes me glad that i'm 3000 miles away from home
and a tv with Versus. hurray for grainy online feeds!
by uvgt2bkdnme on Apr 14, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
They’re better than they used to be… I think their analysis of plays is better. They’ve had some pretty good replays and recaps of why penalties were called. But someone pulled tried to do some graphic crap and it just threw some dots on the screen and then the screen was changing colors and flashing, but it looked like they meant it… it was bad.
Speaking of crappy production of NHL games, did anyone notice NBC’s strange Datsyuk (and one for the blackhawks… Toews probably) timer on Sunday’s game? What was up with that?
i'm already insane enough to be willing to stay up for Kings/ Sharks
but seriously: if any game has to go to overtime, can it not be this West Coast game? come on, teams, you’ve got 5 minutes.
there was another Kings player in that spot on the ice
who fell for seemingly no reason the way Willie Mitchell did
by uvgt2bkdnme on Apr 14, 2011 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know why I'm watching this game
mmm, playoffs…
but seriously, of all the series going on I’m not that into this one.
I should be sleeping.
what is up with the Kings' bench's side of the ice?
Mitchell fell again for no reason
...dont like that penalty stupid zebras
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)
well atleast its going to OT
go kings go!
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)
i'm here til the game ends
which will hopefully be very soon
by uvgt2bkdnme on Apr 14, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
wayne symonds (sp?) for LA / Couture for SJ ...
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)
i cant sleep rawr must cheer on kings
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)
Kyle Clifford, Alec Martinez, Trevor Lewis, Kevin Westgarth
all Kings rookies.
Smyth-Stoll-Williams and Clifford-Richardsoon-Simmonds
Kings’ two best lines on the night
this is gettin sloppy
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)
well damnit all
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)
well
at least we didn’t have to stay up for hours just to find out we’d be disappointed.
by uvgt2bkdnme on Apr 15, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
night everyone
thanks to Casey for putting the thread up and thanks to JJ, Igorzba, and NatiTalia for providing company
Good night
We’ll have another open thread up tomorrow for those games.
by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 15, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
good things :) c y' all then!
"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day." ~ Calvin (C & H)
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