Saturday Open Thread
Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals opens tonight as the Boston Bruins welcome the Tampa Bay Lightning to town in what's going to be a fun night of comparing which team is rustier coming off their 2nd-round sweep and subsequent rest period. Goaltenders Tim Thomas and Dwayne Roloson are each giving up barely over two goals per game. The series of the two old goalies will now probably turn into a shootout, as these playoffs continue to prove their unpredictable nature. Puck drop is at 8:00 EST tonight.
Unfortunately, the start of the conference finals has been marred by two sad stories to come out around the NHL.
First, Rangers' forward and resident tough-guy Derek Boogaard was found dead in his Minneapolis apartment. Cause of death has yet to be determined. Boogard last played an NHL game on December 9th as the Rangers took on the Ottawa Senators. During the 5-3 Rangers victory, Boogard suffered a concussion in a fight with Ottawa's Matt Carkner. From the NHL.com release:
Throughout his career, Boogaard sought to make a difference in the communities he played in, taking part in numerous charitable endeavors. Boogaard was a supporter of the Defending the Blue Line Foundation, a non-profit charitable foundation whose mission is to ensure that children of military members are afforded every opportunity to participate in the great sport of hockey. While with the Rangers, he created "Boogaard's Booguardians," hosting military members and their families at all New York Ranger home games. In addition, he made multiple appearances with partner organizations of the Garden of Dreams Foundation, the non-profit charity that works closely with all areas of Madison Square Garden, including the New York Knicks, Rangers, Liberty, MSG Media, MSG Entertainment and Fuse "to make dreams come true for kids facing obstacles."
I didn't know much about Boogaard. As the son of a man who has spent a large portion of his adult life in the U.S. Army, Boogaard's charitable accomplishments hit home for me. Reading stories about him from around the league, it really seems as though the NHL has lost a personable, friendly, and caring member.
In the still-sad-but-for-a-different-reason news, ESPN's Matthew Barnaby was arrested Friday in Buffalo New York in a domestic incident that left all involved physically unharmed, but the former NHLer charged with criminal mischief, criminal trespass, harassment, criminal contempt and aggravated harassment. No further details have come out regarding the case, and I'm sure we'll see the lawyer-talk press releases show up soon enough, but this is certainly not the way the NHL wanted to start this weekend.
You may use this thread for tonight's game or whatever else comes to mind. Just remember, everything goes unless it doesn't.
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So I'm wondering if his death was related to his concussion?
Way way too young to die. I feel bad for the family. RIP Boogaard.
Thanks for the year Red Wings!! Come back strong in 2012
If so
look for an absolutely sickening amount of coverage from every side of the headshot/fighting/hitting debate that drags his name all over while people try to make their point.
I don’t want to be at the point where I’m outright “rooting” for one cause of death over another, but considering the concussion-based or illicit substance-based possibilities, I’m hoping that for everybody involved, this was a freak happenstance.
by J.J. from Kansas on May 14, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
not just that
everyone will also start scrambling over the concussion issue and start pouring on article after article about concussion protocol, Sidney Crosby and his, and just . . .
i agree:
I don’t want to be at the point where I’m outright "rooting" for one cause of death over another, but considering the concussion-based or illicit substance-based possibilities, I’m hoping that for everybody involved, this was a freak happenstance.
anything else, and it’ll be a shitstorm at the worst possible time for the NHL.
by uvgt2bkdnme on May 14, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
it is even more likely
Considering his concussion was a while ago and he seemed to be recovering, a heart attack. More and more often when a young, fit, seemingly healthy man or woman dies suddenly the autopsy often finds signs of heart abnormalities. I often wonder how many people in the general public have minor heart problems that, because they are not pushing themselves as hard as professional athletes, never manifest themselves.
When you think about it, this is a muscle that starts beating in the womb and never stops, maybe for as long as a century later. It adjusts to demands ranging from sleeping to running, copes with growth from a baby to an adult, and in general doesn’t skip a beat ever. So little is required for something to go wrong.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
either way
It will be weeks before the full results are known after the autopsy. Heart attack, concussion-related problem, or just freak bacterial infection or chemical imbalance, it will take quite a while to figure it out. Unfortunately there is no longer a rush for medical reasons.
Poor kid. He was five years younger than my baby sister.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
kudos to his family
They made the decision to donate his brain to the Boston University researchers working on concussions. It isn’t an easy decision to make about organ donation in an emotional time, and I respect them a lot for doing it.
The more athlete brains they can get data on, at various levels of possible damage, the stronger their research will be.
Random Ramblings from a Somewhat Scattered Mind
"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Yes, very hard to make...
that kind of decision at this time. Oodles of respect, along with sympathy. I know what they’re going through. I lost my 34 year old hockey-playing brother to a heart attack….almost 13 years younger than me.
by wingsluver4ever on May 14, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't realize how huge he was
6’7" and 265? That’s a lot of body for one heart to keep pumping for, no matter how good shape he was in. I understand his siblings are very tall, too — if there’s something genetic that might also affect them, I hope it can be forestalled for them.
Don't take life so serious, son -- it ain't nohow permanent.
So I'm not the only one who thinks the lack of explanation/ reason is suspicious.
It is an unfortunate event, and all my prayers go out to him and his family. From what I read, he was a great guy (of course no one would say the opposite in his passing), and I know he was a ferocious player who gave it his all.
Still, I find the lack of details alarming. I will respect the family’s privacy, but I just hope the truth comes out eventually.
pointless to speculate so early
Autopsies take time to determine cause of death. It isn’t like CSI in real life.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
With the impending move of ATL to winnepeg
is there a chance of Detroit moving into the eastern conference? I know its too early to speculate but I see it more likely that Nashville gets moved into the vacant SE division.
The current front-runners to move East
are Detroit and Columbus. Detroit’s been after such a move for years now, but I don’t know if the league will let them go with all the marketing/matchup opportunities that the Wings currently enjoy with the top echelon of the West. All things considered, right now, it would be a good move for the team, since the east is so much weaker than the west, but we’ll see.
Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! --George Carlin
It won't happen
They will want to preserve the Chicago-Detroit “rivalry” more than anything. Columbus will be moved to the east if anything changes.
That, and I’m trying to not get my hopes up.
Go Eastern Conference!
My irrational hatred for the Sharks and all Canada-based teams means that Boston or TB (preferably TB, though seeing Kaberle get a Cup after being chased out of Toronto would be great) must win it all.
I hate Jonathon Ericsson.
agreed
i had an irrational hatred (actually, not so irrational because the Kings are my second favorite team, FAR behind the Red Wings) for the Sharks even before this past series started, and i’ve been developing a hate-on for this current incarnation of the Vancouver Canucks (the actual organization and “Canucks team” itself, i’m just indifferent toward) because of the severe media overhype. although, i guess it’s not so much “overhype” anymore now that they’ve made the Conference Finals . . .
dammit, i hate being wrong.
by uvgt2bkdnme on May 14, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The only team I refuse to root for is San Jose
Tampa or Boston (to a lesser extent) would be great, and the only problem I have with the Nucks is that my friend will never, ever shut up about it if they win
"I don't think you're happy enough. I'll teach you to be happy."
Agreed!
Hoping for a Stanley Cup in Tampa!
There is no offseason.
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by Tigers&WingsFan on May 14, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
sad news about Boogard
Go Bolts and Canucks then Bolts and definitely go whoever comes out of the East by far
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
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Much more meh about the postseason now
Go Tampa for two reasons, one because of Yzerman, two because I’ll be in Florida not far from Tampa in about a week for an internship and would love to find a way to go to a Finals game.
Go meteor in the other serious. I’d favor Vancouver because F the Sharks and because I find the green suit guys in Vancouver to be hilarious.
As of 3/12/11, It is this users opinion that both the NFL and NFLPA can suck it.
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Good afternoon all
After taking the last 36 hours to stay away from the internet and all stories about the Wings, I feel better. The anger at the Wings being eliminated has come and gone, and I wish luck to the remaining 4 teams.
We’ll have something on the Wings’ season coming up in the next day or two, as we look back.
Also, I would like everyone to congratulate our good friend Casey Richey on becoming an official college graduate. He’s done great things with the site, and I on behalf of the “staff” here at WIIM, a hearty congratulations and job well done to Casey. Welcome to the real world!
I'm still mad
But the Tigers are helping me cope. Thank goodness Justin Verlander is on my favorite team.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Should've followed...
your path. Tried to read Lambert’s “eulogy” yesterday. When saw it was him that wrote it, should’ve just skipped it altogether. Anybody know why he’s got such a hard-on against the Wings? Can take sarcastic, tongue-biting humor, but what I read was just plain nasty….especially attacks on Detroit’s economy and woes. Oh well, chins up.
Said somewhere else, but don’t know if you saw it. You should rerun your 19 Wings series this summer. It would be a great re-read.
Congrats to Casey. Good luck to Stevie’s Bolts.
by wingsluver4ever on May 14, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, that eulogy is the best piece Lambert has ever written
Of course, that says way more about his other drivel than it does about the eulogy. Nothing original, just the same recycled jokes about the Wings being old, spending money before the salary cap and Detroit’s economy. Not sure Lambert watched the series, I don’t know if he even mentioned the Sharks.
It was disappointing to see Lambert wrote the eulogy
I actually did skip it and went to the comments when I saw there were 700+. Usually, Yahoo commenters suck, but with that many, it was worth looking at the best ones. Didn’t seem that many people at all found humor in it, regardless of fandom.
Fan of the Detroit Tigers, Lions and Red Wings.
Did Big-Rig really turn down a 2-mil a year(s) contract?
If so he must be basing his pay increase on the Brett Lebda formula
You just got Kronwalled!
by DeathtotheHawks on May 14, 2011 4:14 PM CDT reply actions
I really hope we don't over pay him
but I don’t see any other way to keep him. :(
by GOREDWINGSGO on May 14, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Grabner only worth $3Mil/yr?
Looks like the Isles got him cheap compared to our $3 Mil player (Hudler). I hope Big Rig follows Grabner’s lead and settles for $2.5Mil but then again Toronto might offer him $6Mil/yr and “steal” him away from the Wings.
by GOREDWINGSGO on May 14, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
enjoy the game, all!
i’m off to do a concert (or rather, one song in a concert, but . . . details). enjoy! GO LIGHTNING!
Bolts up 3-1
When they won the cup were they heavy underdogs too? No one gave them a chance to beat Boston. Jokes on them.
LGLB
5-2. So called hockey experts were wrong again. Rolo the goalie for Conn Smyth.
Boston looked a lot like Washington did in Game 1 in the last series
Very undisciplined play in the first period—careless defense, costly turnovers, and a very weak attack aside from Seguin (the only Boston forward that scares me at this point…kid looks like the real deal). If Tim Thomas wasn’t an absolute beast of a man, the game would’ve been 10-2 or something like that. I don’t expect it to remain so easy from here on out though.
But man, the bruins were thuggish at the end of the game. That was just ridiculous. I hope they get hit with a couple of 1-game suspensions for that crap.
Shawn Camp earned my dog several beatings back in 2007
by wtbudlight on Aug 30, 2010 5:54 PM PDT
Tampa's 3rd goal was uh...
What a stupid, stupid play by the Boston D on that one
"I don't think you're happy enough. I'll teach you to be happy."
And on the other side
Just wanna make fun of Toronto again after seeing Seguin score that 1st period beauty
"I don't think you're happy enough. I'll teach you to be happy."
Sour grapes
Watching game 1 of the WCF was so freaking hard for me. I hated just about every minute of it. From the incessant “Thornton-Kesler-Thornton-Kesler” adulation of the Versus announcers to just watching the freaking Sharks. I know, I know. I’m bitter. I’ll get over it.
Seeing that the Sharks inability to play well in the third period is still ongoing.
On the brighter side, nothing but respect for Guy Boucher. He is a class act. Why isn’t he nominated for the Adams?

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