Jagr: Rumor or Fact?

of seeing a Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Jagr line.

As I posted in today’s Morning News, Malik is saying that the entire rumor is based around a “pal” of Jagr saying “Detroit would be a good fit”

Does not seem like a well founded rumor. Just seems like someone took a quote of context and reported it as a definite possibility. While you can never count us out of signing former superstars looking for one last run at the Cup, I do not think we should be looking at this as a possibility until July 1st when we know the status of Lidstrom and Holmstrom as well as if we will try to sign Richards.

really it didn’t have any legs until really late when the news broke that Holland confirmed it was more than just a friend and that they have actually been in contact with Jagr and his agent

Put me in the group that thinks Jagr is too old and slow to cut it in the NHL anymore.

we don’t make another signing/trade. I think I would be more optimistic about this if the whole Modano thing would have worked out or not happened. There’s no denying that Jagr has talent (much more left in the tank than Modano). He’s up there in the greatest European born players list.

Also he is involved with his Czech Kladno team, and probably would take a lot of focus away from his game

Give him a shot along with the younger players wanting a spot on the team. The added competition of an aging player may induce the hunger manifest in the younger talent. Draw out the competitive edge.

…has marked him as a player who will always put himself before the team. I don’t see a way he can bring more value than detraction to the club.

I dont’ think his attitude would make for a great fit. Also my first reation to this news was to be horrified as I saw Hudler’s face flash before my eyes. We have young talented players who have been chosen/groomed for a time such as this. We’ve invested a lot in them and I think it would be a punch to the gut to risk losing any of them for a sunset player who may or may not remember how to play hockey once back in the NHL and who’s personality I don’t think would be a great fit anyway.

after tomas and bertuzzi we are actually a young team ( Nikki plays young so i dont care if he is 100 ) and adding jager would be nice but so wouldn’t adding laich or ladd or someone like that

Still impressive, all the talk about this being a young mans game… well, the U.S. team he was playing against isn’t exactly old and slow.

He has great positioning and can cycle. The 3rd goal shows he still has it. Imagine him and Datsyuk playing keep away.

He’s worth a look

..DID ANYONE SEE HIM IN THE RECENT WORLD CHAMIONSHIP?? Guy was a beast!! I like many, grew up watching Jagr (and mullet) play in the NHL. It had been probably several years since I had seen him play, until the 2011 WC.

I didn’t know what to expect, and he looked like his old self, I couldn’t believe it!! Only thing missing was his mega mullet flowing in the wind as he did circles around everyone. Yes, it wasn’t the NHL and yes, it’s been awhile since he’s been in the league. However, many of the guys playing in the tournament were in fact current, former or future NHL material. So, it’s still a pretty good idea of what he is still capable of.

At age 39, Jagr racked up 5 goals with a total of 9 points in 9 games, including a hat trick against USA, on his way to bronze with his Czech Republic team. Last years WC, Jagr earned 7 points in 9 games and a Gold Medal. One of 24 in the elite Triple Gold Club..

Which makes it a bit unfair, to even begin to compare him to Modano and Hudler. Modano just had a horrible case of bad luck, who knows what could have happened if it wasn’t for missing so many games. And Hudler is well…um.. Hudler…so, yeah. He’s just been in a different league, not like the guy retired… and think he would fit in great with the Wings offensive onslaught.

Although, I’m realistic about what it may take to get him and don’t like where that could go..unless we get the ol’ Kenny Holland (c’mon, we’re the friggin’ Red Wings) special. We just need to keep a good grasp on our core guys and prospects. And I sure hope we re-sign Drapes.. guys working his damn ass off!! Be shame to just let him go like that. Either way, regardless of what happens, I’m confident in the front office to make the right choices.

The Wings have been ousted two years in a row by the same team. What we need is a more cohesive forward unit and more depth at defense. We don’t need another experiment.

I don’t want the Wings to sign anyone in this offseason who makes us better for next year. I want the Wings to sign players who make us better for AT LEAST the next five years. We haven’t been to the WCF in two years and that’s two years too many. I want a dynasty, not a mercenary squad.

The two never played a similar style of game. While both were able to put up numbers and play defense in their prime, they’re two completely different players in the twilight of their careers. I actually liked Modano on the team, his presence on the point for the PP was nice (especially when our other 2nd PP point options would’ve otherwise been Big Rig and someone else) and while he never clicked with Cleary and Hudler, he was solid while he was healthy. If anything, Huds probably held him back a bit by making too many defensive errors, which further made Modano’s aged wheels look even older.

If anything, I’d compare Jagr to the Hossa experiment. Except he’s older, and probably even a bit more selfish. I wouldn’t totally be opposed to the idea of him on the team at the salary Modano made, but as others have stated, we need to give the youngsters a shot to shine. Mursak could be the Ville Leino that never was in Detroit.

If it comes down to it, give Jagr a tryout. If he doesn’t make the team, he will undoubtedly find a job elsewhere in the NHL.

What the people who are “against” (lack of a better word).. Mo and possibly Jagr.. thought about or were thinking, when we acquired some other players, at similar situations in their career who ended up being a bit more successful in Hockeytown??

For example, Hull, Dominator and Robitaille.. Not all quite the same situation with the players and the team, as we’re in now, but damn close. Same idea at least… helping give way to the whole idea of.. “Got some left in the tank, want to win another Cup?” idealogy that has up until recently, proven true again and again. No doubt, it also plays a big part in like players continued willingness to give up some chedda, in order to wear the Winged Wheel.. not just because they happen to think they look good in red.

I understand that at this point, we can’t just keep keep putting water in the radiator and hoping to not overheat, we need to take a look at the whole cooling system. To be better prepared and ready for long miles to come, especially with today’s harsh road conditions. However, at the same time, we can’t deny any shot that gets us closer to the Cup.. no matter what year it is.

the NHL regular season will most likely kill Jags (or at least hobble him).

The only comparison that I think you make on Modano to Jagr is the conditioning. Mike had a tough time adjusting and being physically conditioned for what the Wings wanted him to do at the 3rd line Center spot. I think Jagr would have a similar issue – though playing on the Wing may be a little less taxing than Center….I don’t know, but to me that’s the only comparable item of note.

Both are old, both are HHOF’ers, but Jagr is/was a better scorer – and I’m not sure the Wings need to address the offensive side of the game as much as they need to deal with the defensive side this off season.

So, I guess you can put me in the “very skeptical” bunch.