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So what's the logic here?

If the puck touches the green line at all (since I’m assuming the green line is exactly one puck-diameter from the red line), it’s a no-questions-asked goal? What happens when the puck rolls on-end through the “ambiguous” area between the lines?

Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! --George Carlin

by J_Stone on Aug 17, 2011 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

What ambiguous area? If it is touching the green line, it’s a goal.

by Apocalyptic0n3 on Aug 17, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

If it's on-end, the green line could be detrimental

I like that they’re experimenting with a way to do it better, but the puck isn’t always flat. What’s next, a yellow line that’s one puck-height behind the goal line as well?

by J.J. from Kansas on Aug 17, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty soon

there’s gonna be a ship in the puck that will automatically trigger the goal light.

Basically, there’s no ‘golden egg’ when it comes to calling a goal.

by Dubie on Aug 19, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Two things:

1) Putting a chip in the puck is harder than it sounds. The “Foxtrax” puck from the 90’s was lambasted by players. They could actually feel the difference. When given a bucket of pucks, both Foxtrax and normal, I remember someone (a Blackhawk, I think. Tony Amonte? Theo Fleury?) accurately guessing which was which on all but a handful of the pucks. The difference in the way the puck moves and bounes is noticeable. The NHL has repeatedly said they have not been able to develop a more realistic feel since then
2) How would that work? Unless the entire puck was a sensor, they would know just when a certain point on the puck entered the net. For example, the Foxtrax pucks had a sensor embedded, I believe, directly in the center that was able to be read and speed displayed in blues and reds. If that puck went in the net, the net would sense that one point in the puck going in, even if the entire puck had not entered the net yet.

by Apocalyptic0n3 on Aug 19, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

My remark was mostly sarcastic

hence why I included the ‘golden egg’ statement. But…

1. I think technology today is so advanced that chips COULD be put in while keeping the weight difference immeasurable.
2. That’s the problem with the chips. There would undoubtedly be some angle at which a puck would enter the net where the chip would not trigger the light.

I know it wouldn’t work, but you always see people clamoring for it.

by Dubie on Aug 19, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

The weight is not the issue, really, it is the consistency. It messes with how the puck bounces on the stick, on the walls, on the glass, on the ice, on everything.

by Apocalyptic0n3 on Aug 19, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

If an iPhone can have a 99-cent app that swings a lightsaber around on the screen with your movements

then the same technology using accelerometers can created an electronic RF picture the exact size of the puck and do a good enough job of showing where it is in 3D space to have it be a perfectly useful and trustworthy technology.

As for players being able to tell the difference between technopucks and old pucks? Well, they eventually get used to everything, don’t they?

by J.J. from Kansas on Aug 19, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The one technology that I think IS worth a look

is called “Eagle Vision”, or something like that, that tennis uses to judge close balls. It seems to be very accurate in placing the ball on the court, and even adjusts the mark of the ball on the court based on the type and speed of shot hit. Something like that could be used, I believe, with little to no change in character or weight of the pucks.

by Dubie on Aug 20, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

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