Quick Hits: Fifteen

by JeffHancock41 on Jan 17, 2012 5:40 AM CST in Quick Hits

Hockeytown, No Limits

Red Wings' Pavel Datsyuk excels with no flash or fanfare, just brilliance | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com
An absolutely fantastic article about Pavel. A must read.

Jimmy Howard, Wings Streak To No. 15 " The Production Line - TP:60
Your game recap from the gang at TPL

Red Wings keep home fans burning for wins at Joe Louis Arena | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
We want 16.

Sabres vs Red Wings Recap 1.16.2012 | January
Another recap, this time from the gang at NOHS.

Red Wings' Drew Miller sticks up for brother Ryan | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com
Ahhhh...brotherly love. To be fair though, Ryan had pretty much no chance on four of the five goals. His defense was awful and his team chance him no chance.

KuklasKorner : The Malik Report : Red Wings-Sabres wrap-up and Wings-Stars set-up: Datsyuk, Wings make history by stomping Sabres
Everything you may have missed is all right here is one place thanks to to George.

Around the NHL

Ryan Miller: ‘There’s no such trade’ that can fix Buffalo Sabres this season | Puck Daddy - Yahoo! Sports
Maybe...maybe not...but Drew Stafford or Paul Gaustad would look good in red and white and a Winged Wheel.

For fans expecting a quick-fix, recent Lightning history won't repeat itself - Raw Charge
Times are tough for The Captains and his last place Lightning, but Stevie Y seems like he is staying the course with his plan to build this team and won't try any quick-fixes.

Fraser: Lecavalier's extra punch on Malkin on Sunday
Former referee Kerry Fraser explains why no supplemental discipline should be handed out to Vincent Lecavalier after his sucker punch on Evgeni Malkin. Truth is, Malkin is ugly, so he probably deserved it.

The Big Question: Which player has been the most disappointing? | ProHockeyTalk
~~Brendan Smith. He's been on the roster for eight games this season, but I swear he's only shown up for three of them.~~ (very funny JJ).......I would say Mikael Samuelsson, but he's expected to suck and be disappointing.

Struggling Kesler gets snippy about coach’s comments | ProHockeyTalk
Trying to pick the least-likable person between Alain Vigneault and Ryan Kesler is like trying to pick which pit bull you'd rather have bite you in the crotch.

Discussion: With home games coming up against the Blue Jackets, Blues, Oilers, Ducks, and Flyers...can the Wings make it 20-wins-in-a-row at home? It would be tough as hell, the Blues and Flyers are good teams and the Oilers and Ducks could play hard. It would be awesome to tie the NHL record though.

Also, don't forget to check out the latest episode of WIIM Radio. Lots of trade talk, including which Sabres we might want to see on the Wings in the future.

Let's Go Red Wings.

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Headed on over to SLGT (my first mistake) to read up on their thrilling win against the Stars last night as I look ahead to tonight, and their links are all about Detroit and how the Blues are ahead of the Wings in the standings despite having won fewer games.

I don’t mind Brad Lee, but if we were on a playground, he’d be pulling our hair and pushing us down to hide the giant crush he has on us. I truly believe he’s a closet Wings fan; how else would you explain his obsession with us?

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by Amerinadian on Jan 17, 2012 6:56 AM CST reply actions

hahaha

great link… I need to head over there more often and have a laugh.

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by Josh Howard on Jan 17, 2012 7:17 AM CST up reply actions

Damn

He’s got as many typos as Jeff in his quick links.

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by Josh Howard on Jan 17, 2012 7:24 AM CST up reply actions

my favorite being

“…and Detroit is on the Blues heals”

just what part of the body is a heal?

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by Lords of Olympia on Jan 17, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions

We are the cure.

by bond021 on Jan 17, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions

he’d be pulling our hair and pushing us down to hide the giant crush he has on us

Maybe he’d be pulling Jeff’s and MY hair…

I think it’s important to point out that the Blues are tied for the most points in the NHL with the New York Rangers and that the Detroit Red Wings are not. That’s just got to get under their skin in the Motor City.

Maybe in March it would.

by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 17, 2012 7:33 AM CST up reply actions

Even if they had more points… would it matter??? All I’m worried about is having an amazing season, getting into the post season, and taking it to the competition in the ONE place it actually matters. I think we got a leg up on a lot of teams right now.

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by Josh Howard on Jan 17, 2012 7:35 AM CST up reply actions

Exactly

What the Blues or Blackhawks or Predators do is irrelevant. If the Wings take care of business, then it won’t matter whether every single one of those teams has more points than the Wings, because it’s the games that are played in April and May that matter, not the ones in December and January.

Of course, I’m a Red Wings fan, so I know that. The Blues fans will learn eventually.

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by Amerinadian on Jan 17, 2012 7:55 AM CST up reply actions

Yeah

but I want home-ice advantage.

by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 17, 2012 9:11 AM CST up reply actions

Agreed

Unless the Wings can go on a road run at this point of the season, which I still believe is possible.

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by Amerinadian on Jan 17, 2012 9:18 AM CST up reply actions

And not even March

The only day the standings really matter is on April 8th.

And after that, it’s whoever can win 16 games first.

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by Robocop on Jan 17, 2012 8:05 AM CST up reply actions

The Dog Video

Was the best part of the link. Thanks.

by eromnek on Jan 17, 2012 7:28 AM CST reply actions

It’s quite sad.

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by Josh Howard on Jan 17, 2012 7:47 AM CST up reply actions

Question for the masses

Are any of you stat geeks? Would all of you be interested in seeing posts dealing with advanced stats and so on?

I’m starting to get in to them myself, and I find them fascinating to see how they can be a predictor of future performance. If so, we can include more links regarding stats.

Here’s one I found over at SCH by a commenter. Really good stuff.

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by Amerinadian on Jan 17, 2012 7:57 AM CST reply actions

Love em

Jordan over at NOHS always seems to find some good stats on players and whatnot. :)

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by Josh Howard on Jan 17, 2012 7:59 AM CST up reply actions

For baseball yes, for hockey no

I’m just not convinced you can use advanced metrics in a team oriented sport. I think the only person on the ice whose performance can be predicted is the goaltender’s because, at the end of the day, he’s most in charge of his individual performance.

But if you did do a post, I’d obviously read it.

by eight_legged_freaks on Jan 17, 2012 8:18 AM CST up reply actions

Fair enough

I’m just starting to really figure them out for myself, so I’m not sure what their value is. I was riveted during the Oilers-Wild brouhaha because you’ve got polar opposites on the merit of stats in hockey.

Personally, I just want more ammo to back up my shit-talking. If advanced stats do that, then I will use them.

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by Amerinadian on Jan 17, 2012 8:36 AM CST up reply actions

For nerds like me,

the stats are fun to look at regardless of whether they are future indicators or not. Also, using the metrics to find out which line combinations are the best, so we can be better armchair coaches, is awesome (thanks ChuckyD!).

by Brion on Jan 17, 2012 8:41 AM CST up reply actions

Thanks

Glad that somebody is finding the stats useful. Hopefully, over the next months we will be able to launch some even cooler stuff.

by ChuckyD on Jan 17, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions

I continue to show the Fenwick Results

to my friend who is a Rangers Fan, because they keep showing that we are #1. And not those silly NHL Standings which have us not at #1.

I’m totally in favor of advanced stats that prove we are the best!

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by holmstrom96 on Jan 17, 2012 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Easy

Ask the Rangers’ fan how many consecutive years his team has been in the playoffs. If it is less than 20 then….

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by Dannik99 on Jan 17, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions

He is always bringing up 1992 and how they won the prez trophy and the cup. Then I ask him who the last team to do that was. That shuts him up nicely.

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by holmstrom96 on Jan 17, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions

Wings have done it twice (2008, 2002) since another team did it (2001 Avalanche.)

by EthrDemon on Jan 17, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions

That Avalanche team was downright nasty.

I hate the Avs and everything, but man, some of those teams were so incredible it astounds me.

Sakic, Forsberg, Foote, Blake, Bourque, Roy, Drury, Tanguay, Kasparitis, Deadmarsh, etc. etc.

Downright filthy. Mind you, the Wings iced some pretty half-decent teams themselves haha

by eight_legged_freaks on Jan 17, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah

The first thing I thought of to respond with:

Shanahan, Federov, Hull, Lidstrom, Robitaille, Yzerman, Larinov, Chelios, Datsyuk, Hasek

(Not sure about the Avs, but the current salary cap STILL hasn’t caught up to the 01-02 Wings payroll.)

by EthrDemon on Jan 18, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions

Does anyone see a new coach in buffalo by the end of the season?

Judging by millers comments about the sabres locker room there isn’t any leadership in there. it looks to me that they could really use a fresh face and get a kick start to try to save this season.

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by krett on Jan 17, 2012 10:03 AM CST via Android app reply actions

Maybe

it sounds like they really have no one, like you said, to stand up in the lockerroom. They really need a guy to speak up and a coach to push them.

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by Josh Howard on Jan 17, 2012 10:05 AM CST up reply actions

Its about the only thing they can afford to do now, with those terrible contracts…

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by holmstrom96 on Jan 17, 2012 10:12 AM CST up reply actions

I literally live

right in the middle of chicago and st louis in central IL now, I deal with this bullshit everyday. I thought chicago was bad, but all of a sudden the blues fans appear out of the woodwork.

by bond021 on Jan 17, 2012 10:33 AM CST reply actions

that was suppose to be in reply to Amerinadian intial post

by bond021 on Jan 17, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions

blues fans...lol

seriously! hitch has them playing better, but seriously, how long can they continue their run? at some point the injury bug bites them and they begin to fall away. look at minnesota! that didn’t take long now did it? wonder how long it will take other teams to EXPOSE the inherent weaknesses of the blues. they play a trap system so they only have to play on half the ice. it’s when you push them back into their own zone, that’s when the fun starts! chicago does it to them all the time. detroit figured it out too. from the neutral zone forward, the blues will clobber you but if you get them into their own zone, they make mistakes with the puck and they find it in the back of their net. problem is, you have to keep them from gaining your blue line. if you can successfully do this, you stand a great chance of beating them. they aren’t a bad team but they sure aren’t a good team either, despite where they currently are in the standings. remember minnesota was once there and where are they now?

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by wjr on Jan 17, 2012 3:44 PM CST reply actions