Morning Skate: The Great Pretenders
At the beginning of the season, few people expected that the St. Louis Blues would be this good. I don't think it's a secret that they've underachieved in the past few seasons. After a crazy late-season run in 2008-09 that resulted in their only postseason berth since the lockout, it was thought that the Blues would use that momentum to finally rise to the position of Central Division power. However, poor play and injuries seriously derailed their last 2 seasons, and they once again found themselves on the outside looking in once mid-April rolled around.
This year, there's no such concerns. After a 6-7 start, the Blues fire Davis Payne and hired Ken Hitchcock, and since then the Blues have been a juggernaut, going 23-5-6. They're doing it with defense, and whether you want to call it a trap or not, there's no question that the Blues' biggest strength is their ability to keep the puck out of their net. Headed into tonight's game, they currently have 29 wins, 9 less than they had all of last season. The Blues certainly seem to be for real, and they don't show any signs of going away. The game tonight should be a good one between two teams that are going to fight neck-and-neck for the division crown until the end.
It's too bad their fans get to enjoy it.
Oh boy are Blues fans full of themselves right now. I guess I understand, what with their team being relevant for the first time in a decade. We've all heard the stereotype of the bitter Blues fan, but this year they have gone out of their way to prove that it's true. I guess that's to be expected when they've seen their team win a grand total of 4 games beyond the 2nd round in that cute little 25 year playoff streak they like to think means something.
You can see it all the time. It's in their headlines; it's buried in their posts. However, even though they'll troll the shit out of us, don't you dare respond to it, because they'll get their tight little panties all in a bunch and say things like "how dare a Wing fan comment on a post designed specifically to rile up Wing fans?" They even believe that mentioning the Wings is a beacon to Wing fans to come in and comment, as if we don't have better things to do than scour St Louis Game Time and look for negative things about the Wings (because seriously, we've got jobs and shit).
The funniest thing to me about Blues fans is how far into their heads the Wings (and by extension, their fans) really are. How else to explain why they go out of their way to bring up their standing in relation to the Wings. It's not about how well the Blues are doing; it's solely about whether they are doing better than the Wings (newsflash: they're not). Blues fans are like that one friend that we all had. You know him: he's the guy who, no matter what he's got, has to tout that what he has is better than what you have. This is true even if you're driving around in a Ferrari and he naively believes that his souped-up Cavalier somehow qualifies as a "sports car".
These guys may as well just wear a sign that says "Hi, my name is _______ and I have an Inferiority Complex". It's the same thing with Blackhawk fans who chant "Detroit Sucks" when Chicago is playing Columbus. It's hilariously pathetic.
I can already hear the response from the other side; "typical whiny Wing fan" they'll say. I'm sure there will be a few comments from our sister site about what an asshole I am, but I don't hate myself nearly enough to head over there and comment. Now, I could tell all Wing fans not to go over and engage those mouth-breathers at SLGT, but I won't, because I can't tell any of you what to do. I also won't stop any Blues fan from coming over here and telling me exactly what you think of me. Hell, even if you were banned in the past, know that you are now welcome to comment here at WIIM without being labeled a troll unless you act as such. But know this, Blues fans: no matter what you say, it won't bother me, because I just don't care.
Oh, and Blues fans? It's still not a rivalry.
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The Expected Lineup
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Johan Franzen -- Pavel Datsyuk -- Todd Bertuzzi
Valtteri Filppula -- Henrik Zetterberg -- Jiri Hudler
Danny Cleary -- Darren Helm -- Drew Miller
Jan Mursak -- Justin Abdelkader -- Tomas Holmstrom
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Niklas Kronwall -- Brad Stuart
Mike Commodore -- Jonathan Ericsson
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Jimmy Howard (starting)
Scratches: Cory Emmerton and Jakub Kindl
Injuries: Patrick Eaves (jaw)
| BLUES | HOW THEY MATCH UP | RED WINGS |
| 29-12-6 (64 pts; 4th in West) | Record | 32-15-1 (65 pts; 1st in NHL) |
| 2.55 (17th) | Goals Per Game | 3.12 (5th) |
| 1.94 (1st) | Goals Against Per Game | 2.27 (5th) |
| 13.8% (26th) | Power Play % | 18.3% (12th) |
| 82.5% (16th) | Penalty Kill % | 81.3% (22nd) |
| David Backes (16 goals) | Goal Leader | Johan Franzen (18 goals) |
| David Backes (37 points) | Points Leader | Pavel Datsyuk (51 points) |
- The Red Wings are 114-108-37-7 (W-L-T-OTL) all-time against the Blues.
- Last 10 games: Detroit 8-2-0; St. Louis 8-1-1
- The home team has won every game between these two teams so far this season.
- The Wings have won six-in-a-row and five of those six wins have come in OT or a Shootout.
- A win tonight will give Detroit seven straight wins and would tie their season high
Prediction: Red Wings win 3-2. Pavel Datsyuk is your player of the game.
Let's Go Red Wings.
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4-2 Detroit, Zetterberg PotG
One of these days he’s going to come through and today is the day. After getting banished from Saturday’s game, he will come out with a vengeance and atone with both the GWG and the game clinching empty-net goal. He will also make Barret Jackman, who stole the Calder Trophy from him, look like a pylon.
4-3 wings, Franzen POTG
Wish after reading zfans post I went with Z as POTG. I too think after last game he comes out pissed and ready to go.
3-2 Detroit
Its the blues. we keep winning 3-2… So I figured this is how its going to go.
Oh and TPH gets it done tonight!
I'm a Homer
trololololol
Great writeup!
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Wings 4-1
Jimmy shuts down little sister in a sick performance after a weak showing against the BJs.
Brad Stuart should be our backup goalie.
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WOOOOWOOOO!!!!!!! GOING FOR FUCKING BLOOD TONIGHT BOYS!!!!!! BIG TIME GAME FOR BIG TIME PLAYERS!!!!!!!!!!!
HARD FROM THE JUMP BOYS GET ON THE HORSE AND SKATE SHOOT SCORE ALL GAME!!!!!!!!!! SKATE TO THROAT BOYS ALL NIGHT!!!!!!! LET’S GO WINGS!!!!! LET’S GO WINGS!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
by chicagowingsfreak! on Jan 23, 2012 9:00 AM CST via mobile reply actions 4 recs
<--- this
I’ll have what he’s having.
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You are awesome.
Rec’d for getting me pumped up at 10am.
This needed to be green
And it shall be
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love the post titles
Graham, I just love the post titles this year. The great pretenders- haha haha -awesome
by Kendal on Jan 23, 2012 9:06 AM CST via mobile reply actions
4-2 Wings
Hanks your POTG, and the Wings get an empty netter to break the streak of 1 goal wins
I like to Dangle Dangle.
by playboyperry509 on Jan 23, 2012 9:11 AM CST reply actions
By the way, i headed over to the Blues blog..
and read some posts/arguments by Josh, JJ, etc. with Blues fans. Funny stuff over there, but i don’t know how you guys can handle people who just want to say “fuck detroit” every 3 minutes
I like to Dangle Dangle.
by playboyperry509 on Jan 23, 2012 9:12 AM CST reply actions
yeah
i just had some legit questions to ask since I hadn’t seen much of the team play this year. They should just be proud of their record rather than getting worked up over a whole lot of nada.
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2-0, Wings, Jimmeh
That website is pretty special. I mean, I understand why other fans hate the Wings…it’s the same reason why all of baseball fandom hates the Yankees. Doesn’t make it a realistic argument. Detroit isn’t dirty, they’re just good…and they all hate us because Detroit is good and keeps winning. I’m fine with that. St. louis fans at SLGT can pretend it’s a bitter rivalry, but at the end of the day the season isn’t defined by a win or loss tonight. If the Wings lose, I will be upset of course…but it’ll be pretty easy to shrug it off and worry about the next game. Because the two points tonight aren’t going to determine the division crown just yet. I know the headlines like to pretend it’s a big game. But we have no idea what the standings will look like in March. If Detroit finds itself down by a few points by then, I’m more inclined to blame missed opportunities against shitty teams like Columbus than losses against a trap-like-you-don’t-care St. Louis.
All that being said, I really want Detroit to win tonight. If nothing more than to spite St. Louis fans.
Here's the thing
And I touched on this a little in the podcast. The Wings are just now finishing up the most brutal stretch of their schedule. After Wednesday’s game against the Habs, they will have played 26 games in 56 days (since December 1), with 16 of those games on the road. 18 of the Wings’ last 28 games are at home, where they are the best home team in the NHL.
St Louis has a ridiculous road trip at the end of February where they play 6 straight road games, then head home for 3 games before going back out on a 7 game road trip. The Blues are 8-9-3 on the road, so it’s not like they’re tearing it up away from Scottrade.
This is why I feel confident about the Wings going forward. They’ve weathered the biggest storm in their schedule and emerged in good position to contend for the West. The Blues still face an extremely difficult task trying to stay in the race because of their schedule. If the Blues do end up winning tonight, all it means is they are 1 point ahead of the Wings, which is an easy deficit to overcome when the Blues inevitably regress.
by Amerinadian on Jan 23, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah definitely a good point
And I’m starting to think their laggy play of late is due to weathering this tough schedule for so long. They’re very close to a much-needed break…after Wednesday’s game at Montreal they’ll have the All Star break and 5 days without a game. That kind of break is long enough to recharge the brain and give some nagging injuries at least a little heal time.
this was my thinking exactly.
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by holmstrom96 on Jan 23, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
Had to share this
We rip on SLGT a lot around here, but this is a pretty awesome thing they’re doing. I don’t expect anyone to contribute, but in the interest of fairness, I just had to share it.
http://www.stlouisgametime.com/2012/1/23/2723437/the-clarence-fund
It is an awesome thing
but they can’t even keep something as cool as that “clean”. The third comment is just stupid and without any class at all.
Don’t give them any credit going forward – even when they might deserve it – because ultimately it’s just like you said in the original post
…that cute little 25 year playoff streak they like to think means something.
The one that
Left that comment is usually the one you can count to look like a complete moron. I think “fuck” and “Detroit” are about the extent of his vocabulary, and now apparently cancer.
by bond021 on Jan 23, 2012 12:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
4-2 detroit
ridin’ the Z train all the way to……Zeeland
I remember the Production Line and the Darkness
3-1 Red Wings
Jimmy Howard is the POTG. Bouncing back from two sub-par – or at least -1 to the opposing goalie in JJs wrap-ups – efforts, he is superb tonight and shuts down the Blues in his own barn.
3-2/SO
Kidding.
I’ll say 3-1, with Franzen as POTG and Jimmy as a close runner-up.
4-2 Detroit
Mr. Filppula with the POTG honours tonight, folks. I’ve been shooting wide with my predictions of late and I think the Flying Finn might be the one to help break my poor run… looking forward to this game in general (Backes, not so much), but honestly the guy I’m really looking forward to seeing more of is Jan Mursak. Been a long time since I’ve been so excited to see a fourth liner dressing.
Go Wings. Make us proud.
Two things...
1. Anyone got an update on Eaves? I hope he comes back soon.
2. I hope that we don’t have a close game tonight. 3 – 0 Wings. Jimmy for POTG.
Living in Chicago is great... apart from the Blackhawks fans.
Nobody has said anything specific about Eaves
but I have this sinking suspicion that not only did he break his jaw, but may have also suffered a concussion. There has been nothing on this in any of the press, it’s just a gut feeling I have about why we have heard so little about him. If I remember correctly, he has had concussion issues in the past and they may have resurfaced.
Either that, or that giant dog of his inflicted some unintentional damage when he tried to lick his face.
Unfortunately...
Nothing has been said. Eaves won’t even be in game shape when he’s cleared to skate. This has been a lost season for him. If there is one guy who seems expendable, it’s him simply because he hasn’t played in a while. I think your thoughts about a concussion are right on, but I don’t think that’s quite it.
It’s my belief that they are taking their time so that he can get well and get back into game shape. We could sure use his PK ability. He still knows how to score… but time off really can mess guys up. I’m hoping he comes back as if he never left and sets the scoreboard on fire. I’ll take a better PK percentage if that isn’t possible.
Mid February- Early March is my guess… his injury was pretty serious. Get well soon Hattrick Patrick… Kronwall misses having someone to push around on the ice.
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by Josh Howard on Jan 23, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It seems there are more teams out there giving special "awards" to the PotG and St. Louis is no exception
One thing about theirs, it’s a hot dog hat and goes to the “Weenie of the Game”. How appropriate. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/blues-honor-players-weenie-game-goofy-hot-dog-170118266.html
I prefer the classier look of the Blue Shirts’ “Broadway Hat” (a fedora brought back, I believe from their trip to Sweden). Of course, it looks best on King Henrik.
I've always liked Calgary's green helmet.
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
by Brion on Jan 23, 2012 12:32 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
1999
Any reason why the Blues fans seem happy about 1999 at their site? My hockey history knowledge only goes back to the late 1960s, but I don’t seem to recall St. louis winning anything of note, other than the remnants of Wayne Gretzky in 96.
Bingo! How fun! But, I digress. Where were we? HL
It was 1999-2000, they won the President's Trophy that year
only to lose in the 1st round of the playoffs to San Jose – going down 3-1 in the first four games, in part because Marc Bergevin threw the puck into his own net…..
The great Greg Graffin covered my thoughts on the St. Louis Gametime crowd:
Hate is a simple manifestation of the deep-seated, self-directed frustration. All it does is promote fear and consternation. It’s the inability to justify the enemy and fills us all with trepidation.
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
by Brion on Jan 23, 2012 12:38 PM CST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
Right On
This was an entertaining and spot on write up. I second the call to Wings fans to let the Blues and the Hawks fans of the world do all the classless and non-fact based trolling. Wings suck? Really? I hate the Blues, Pens, and Hawks but I can’t lay claim to any belief that they suck. I prefer to stick to the belief that the Wings are beating, and sometimes losing to, very good teams. Glad we just don’t beat teams that suck. To be fair they all have their share of good sportsman -like fans. I once too vented my angry responses to these trolls by throwing garbage back and was correctly called out by the leaders of this blog. If you do it, change your ways and help us Wing fans hold our heads up high! Go Wings.
by katiebarthedoor on Jan 23, 2012 1:03 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oh God, the buttrage over there is incredible
I know we’re in the same division and all, but when did this happen? The Blues? I didn’t realize their fanbase hated us this much. Is this recent, or have I just not been paying attention? Their apparent inability to understand the concept of “respect” in the opening handful of posts to that thread in SLGT is saddening. If we like, gooned it up every time we played them or took diving lessons from Gooch or Jumbo Joe—sure, I could understand not respecting a team. I don’t really respect the Ducks, but hardly because they do better than us, or win all the time. I can’t wrap my notion around refusing to respect a team simply because they’ve been outperforming you in recent years.
No Limits.
by arkanfel on Jan 23, 2012 1:29 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
they have always hated us
but now that they think they have a team that can contend it’s really out in the open
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 23, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Wings win 4-2 & Mule is POG....
The Mule-train blows through the Blues tonight
Only wish game wasn’t on FSD+ //sigh
by wingsluver4ever on Jan 23, 2012 2:12 PM CST reply actions
its all on NBCSN
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Guys, its a rivalry...
Lets just go ahead and admit it. Look at how riled up both sites get for these games, neither group acts like this when Columbus is in town (sorry Blue Jackets but you guys are the whipping boy for the season). Yes you guys have had a large edge on the Blues over the past two and a half decades, but before that you guys were bad too (You guys were Blues post-lockout bad in 86). Regardless these games have given us all some truly memorable moments, like that all out brawls in the 90’s and 2003, and Yzeman making me cry as a child in 1998.
We don’t like you and you don’t like us, but without each other it would be way less interesting and fun…
Just enjoy the fact that every time we meet, we’re at least guaranteed some good fucking hockey.
Glad to see a Blues fan who can be civil
Welcome.
Though, I disagree that there is a rivalry between the teams, it’s more a rivalry between fanbases (as pointed out on last night’s/today’s podcast), which explains why the sites get riled up, but the players don’t get too chippy. Hoping for a good hockey game tonight.
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 23, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
But the fans are what really mak it a rivalry. Maybe it’s been tougher to see in the past because of the differences in talen, but with the Blues finally comming into their own I think this has the potential turn into somethig good. Perhpas perspective is the key here.
by RFJCC on Jan 23, 2012 3:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
But the fans are what really make it a rivalry. Maybe it’s been tougher to see in the past because of the differences in talen, but with the Blues finally comming into their own I think this has the potential turn into somethig good. Perhpas perspective is the key here.
by RFJCC on Jan 23, 2012 3:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If it isn't a rivalry...
then why are most of our games with each other national broadcasts? Some people must think it is enough of a rivalry to continue putting us together on high profile telecasts.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 23, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
Because the league
is trying to convince people that there is a team in St. Louis. And there is no better way of getting people to watch a team than by showing them in a game vs. Detroit.
Because the other options last night were
Winnipeg/Carolina
Islanders/Toronto
Nashville/Columbus
Edmonton/San Jose
Ottawa/Los Angeles
It wasn’t on because it’s a rivalry, it was on because there wasn’t another game on the schedule.
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The Blues
will only be a “rival” when they eliminate us for 2+ consecutive years from the playoffs. Til then, they are a fluke.
by Forlorn in VA on Jan 23, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
So I got to thinking
The Lightning kicked ass last season with a new coach, the Blues this season… I’m thinking there’s gonna be a different look next season for the Blues and it’ll be disappointing…. for a Blues fan. Or I could be wrong and we end up pushing each other for a while to see who can bitch slap the hawks. Either way it’s fun to see.
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I don't think so
The team has remained consistent to Hitch’s style of play and it fits the character of the team (were not gonna be a huge offensive team till we find ourselves a bonnafide scorer… Could be Tarsenko next year). I don’t think there is gonna be a huge change for the team next year if Hitch remains in charge.
Also be kind and ignore most grammar an spelling mistakes, I’m in class using an iPod touch to type the shit up…
by RFJCC on Jan 23, 2012 3:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Welcome
I’m totally serious when I say that you are the fan I was looking for… you’re reasonable. It’ll be a great game tonight no matter what.
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It's a fanbase rivalry, at best
And even then, an internet fan base rivalry between 2 blogs. And even then, it’s still one-sided. WIIM’s response to the SLGT is mostly because we’re sick of the bitter, petulant toddlers that reside over there.
And Yzerman’s game 7 OT goal was in 1996 (I assume that’s why he made you cry).
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
Yea blame it on iPod… But i feel it does go beyond the Internet. I used to spend months in Michigan and took more than my fair share of ribbing for being a blues fan. Keep in mind that it isn’t easy being at the top. Imagine us as the republicans to your Obama…
by RFJCC on Jan 23, 2012 3:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I used to spend months in Michigan
Ahh, that explains it. I was wondering where you learned to be civil.
:D
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 23, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Hey now...
I have one hell of an uncivil side, as does every hockey fan (Look inside yourself, you know it to be true).
You guys can call me a Communist in the Scottrade bathroom all you want
Oh, and Blues fans? It’s still not a rivalry.
What he said.
Scottrade Bathroom?
is that our new nickname for SLGT?
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 23, 2012 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
could be
it did actually happen. Russian Five days, waiting in line – dude walks by and says just loud enough for me to hear – “Communist”. I just laughed, still do, it was funny.
But I’m down – SLGT could now be aka Scottrade Bathroom – they do write enough names and number on the walls to be a bathroom, that’s sure
Consider it done
Henceforth, SLGT shall be known as “The Scottrade Bathroom” (at least by me). The level of discourse over there is akin to what you would find written on a bathroom stall at an arena, it smells like urine and farts, and some of them are proponents of the “Glory Hole.”
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 23, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
also
that is pretty funny to be called a communist
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 23, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
Since it seems like EVERY game lately has been this
I say, WHY NOT!? 3-2 Wings, and Todd Bertuzzi gets the game winner
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I can't speak for anybody else from SLGT but my dislike for the Wings is way more about fans than the team.
There are few players on your team that I genuinely dislike (as opposed to the Blackhawks… I wouldn’t piss on any of them if they were on fire). I’ve even said that Datsyuk is probably my favorite player in the NHL to watch on multiple occasions. My dislike stems much more from my interaction with Detroit fans. Although the encounters are few, none of them have ever ended favorable. I can’t recall any instance I have seen where a Wings fan has commented at SLGT and not sounded like a giant dick (JJ from Kansas being the main offender). Now sure quite often it is provoked and maybe even called for occasionally, but not every single time. I’ve also commented here a few times and no matter how civil I try to be, I’ve never had a reaction that warranted even an ounce of respect. I’m sure there are Wings fans who are civil, and deserve respect, but not any of the ones I’ve ever spoken to. So, please excuse me for having a bitter taste in my mouth when it comes to Detroit fans.
Let's Go Blues
Go Pack Go
You'll Never Walk Alone
You're excused
I hope I haven’t come across as somebody who is concerned with whether or not I have your respect.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 23, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
Why would you?
And yes, I get your sarcasm. Penis.
At first I thought that was a comma after sarcasm
and then I realized that would have been really funny.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 23, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
clever
have any other gems for us?
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 23, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
Bwahahahahahaha
I can’t recall any instance I have seen where a Wings fan has commented at SLGT and not sounded like a giant dick (JJ from Kansas being the main offender)
You sound like a manure salesman with a mouthful of samples.
It is somewhat hard to try and talk normally with a bunch of people who will instantly start screaming
“Fuck Detroit” the second they sense a Wings fan in their midst.
You sound like a manure salesman with a mouthful of samples.
I think my favorite part is that I think blunatic thinks that he’s actually trying to be civil here while saying that he doesn’t think there’s a way any of us come out of this deserving of his respect.
“well I TRIED to be civil, but those fucking wolves bit me!”
by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 23, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
better than a tiny dick, i s'pose.
"I'll smile in June."
by Lords of Olympia on Jan 23, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
Fair enough.
I can’t say I wouldn’t feel the same way were the roles reversed. I’ve never really been into the whole Fuck Detroit thing that’s so common at SLGT. It seems fairly douchey to me and I’ve always disliked Chicago way more than Detroit because I didn’t get into hockey a whole lot until after the lockout. I go to a college that’s predominantly Chicago natives and I can’t stand all the idiots who see my blues sweatshirt and instantly start talking shit despite knowing nothing about even their own team.
Let's Go Blues
Go Pack Go
You'll Never Walk Alone
A thread about donating money to someone with cancer = Fuck Detroit
You sound like a manure salesman with a mouthful of samples.
Yeah I don't know what the hell that was about.
I wasn’t a big fan of that one.
Let's Go Blues
Go Pack Go
You'll Never Walk Alone
To be fair...
…JJ really IS a giant dick
Brendan Smith fan
by JeffHancock41 on Jan 23, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
The definition of small sample size
So because most of SLGT is bitter, self-loathing jackasses I should hate all Blues fans and the team. Yeah, that sounds adolescent and high-schoolish at best.
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
i've heard this for so long
and i understand it. i really do. unfortunately, like any fan centered experience,
there’s just nothing that’s going to change it.
if i didn’t have close personal friends who were hawks fans, i might have been led to believe that they’re all a bunch of inexplicably upright-walking sub-human apes whose whole love for their team is actually predicated upon hatred of other teams.
fans are dicks, is i think the moral of the story.
if you hate us, i think that’s probably expected.
"I'll smile in June."
by Lords of Olympia on Jan 23, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
2-1 Wings, Zetterberg
I mean, it’s gotta be Hank eventually, right?
2-1 Blues
Hey, The Wings can’t win EVERY home game now can they???

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