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Disch's take on the situation has me rolling: "Lil’ D, here’s a bit of advice. We’ve been here. We’ve been here for a long time. We’ll be here long after your little surge is over, your new found currency gone, and you’re back in your cave, jerking it to some Gretz card you saved from that 10 minutes when he was saddled with playing for your sad little franchise."
We're Better Than You | Nightmare on Helm Street
Interesting question from Drew at NOHS: do we even need to make a move by the trade deadline...or would you feel confident enough taking this squad against any team in a seven game series? Why give up ANYTHING if we already have the best team, and save that cap room to bring in a big name who wants to be a part of a back-to-back Cup run?
KuklasKorner : Abel to Yzerman : Melting Down In St. Lose
Seriously...this is getting fun. It really is.
Notebook: Wings defenseman Niklas Kronwall puts lapses in past | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com
It's a good thing too. The Wings need Kronwall to be steady on both ends of the ice and, so far, since he got his extension especially, he's been living up to expectations for this season.
Teammates like the new ‘feisty’ Jimmy Howard | Red Wings Front
I've said it before and I'll say it again: If this team wins the Stanley Cup this year it's going to be because of Jimmy Howard. The kid is playing with passion and heart this season and his numbers are freakin' outstanding. People on the outside might just want to credit the Red Wings system and knock Jimmy because he plays behind Lidstrom, but those who watch this kid every night know just how good he is. Jimmy for President.
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The most under-appreciated Red Wing? I'm going with Brendan Smith.
Big Bert closes on 300-goal milestone - Detroit Red Wings - News
One to go for the big fella. In what might be Bert's last season in the NHL, it's great to see him playing so well. I know we what 5 for #5 this season, but I wouldn't mind seeing 1 for #44 either.
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Blues lose free-throw contest, still get one point vs Penguins. - St. Louis Game Time
The Blues lost a close game to the Penguins. Still can't avoid mentioning Detroit in their recap. Also, SLGT, I'm from Detroit so your theory is flawed.
Did Blues’ Barret Jackman prey on Matt Cooke’s reputation for boarding call? (Video) | Puck Daddy - Yahoo! Sports
Barret Jackman dove face-first into the boards to draw a penalty. What a shameful thing to do.
Zach Parise A Red Wing Next Year? - In Lou We Trust
The thread is a few days old, but Devils fan are discussing the possibilities that they might lose one of their star players to the Red Wings.
Scott Gomez has a tough life | Backhand Shelf | Blogs | theScore.com
When Brett Ledba has more goals than you this season then you know you've got it rough.
P.K. Subban experiences growing pains in second year | ProHockeyTalk
Growing pains must cause diving, right?
Discussion: NHL36 featuring Nicklas Lidstrom is tonight at 6:30p ET on NBC Sports Network. What are you looking forward to seeing the most?
Let's Go Red Wings.
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The drive
I think almost everyone wants to see the commute to the Joe with Homer. They could make a show just about that, I’m sure.
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by Josh Howard on Jan 25, 2012 7:04 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
I thought you wanted under appreciated Red Wings
Not over rated Griffins.
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by Robocop on Jan 25, 2012 7:21 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
To the NOHS question about whether we actually do need to make a move
I think Drew has a point, but I’d feel so much better if Holland landed a guy than I do right now during this midseason winning streak.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 25, 2012 7:24 AM CST reply actions
agreed
I am thrilled with our results so far, but I don’t necessarily think we are more prepared to face playoff-mode San Jose now than we were last year. Mobile d-man or powerful winger please!
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by Wizard of Corsica on Jan 25, 2012 7:39 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
Yup
I won’t feel overly confident about this team until we take it to the Sharks. That will be THE test for me. I still secretly hope they don’t make it into the playoffs this year.
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Someone strong or efficient enough to get the puck outta our end before that damn cycle starts.
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by Wizard of Corsica on Jan 25, 2012 7:47 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think we go for it
We’re a great team, we have rebuilt the farm over the last few years, it’s probably Lidstrom’s last year, let’s really go for it.
by eight_legged_freaks on Jan 25, 2012 8:10 AM CST up reply actions
Jesus, that Jackman dive is brutally stupid
I know that there’s absolutely no precedent for it, but I’d actually like to see Jackman suspended for recklessly endangering a player… himself.
Jackman and Cooke chase the puck in to the boards with both players knowing the defender will get there first. Jackman looks over his shoulder to make sure he gets the angle so he can accept the inevitable contact without getting knocked off the puck. As he approaches the boards, Jackman sets his feet to slide in directly over the puck. Cooke makes sure to come up the side so that he gets an arm on the side of Jackman’s outer shoulder and begins pushing directly against the direction that Jackman has his feet set.
While Cooke is finishing this completely clean check, Jackman decides to abandon having his feet set and instead turns them in so the rest of Matt Cooke’s check drives him into the boards.
It’s absolutely hilarious that they’re talking about the “extension of the arms” – the whole reason Cooke’s arms end up like that is because he’s not ready for Jackman to have turned himself to face the boards.
This is absolutely fucking shameful by Jackman and I’d like if the league addressed the problem a lot of people have been worried about with people embellishing contact like this in order to draw calls. Jackman intentionally put himself into a dangerous situation to take advantage of a player’s history and the paranoia about boarding. I hate this play every bit as much as I hate Chris Stewart coming off the bench on a line change to instigate a fight after seeing a clean hit on his teammate.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 25, 2012 7:44 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
I love that SLGT is trying to defend Jackman
If everyone thinks its a dive, its a dive. Its kind of a shitty ad populum argument but its still a fact. It takes a real piece of shit to make Matt Cooke look like a good guy.
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Fuck Barret Jackman in his flat, caveman face. Not because of the dive, which is pretty evident if you take off the homer glasses.
Fuck him for making me take Matt Cooke’s side and giving him the benefit of the doubt. It takes a real piece of shit to make that happen.
by Amerinadian on Jan 25, 2012 8:32 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Won't get into another Jackman discussion with you...
I think you can probably guess my thoughts on this, if you haven’t read over at SLGT already. But like I said over there, while there are a lot of Cooke haters, I think you guys over here hate Jackman just a liiiiiiiiiitle bit more!!
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not welcome to discuss this issue at SLGT
But I have read your thoughts.
I disagree with your assertion that whomever disagrees with you doesn’t understand physics. Watching that hit, Jackman changes the position of his skates after contact with Cooke is initiated. I say he did it purposefully.
Whether or not that is the truth (and that is truly the part of this discussion which is up for debate) is arguable.
However, if Jackman’s skates don’t change position, this is a clean hit by Cooke. I understand the very fast nature of the game and what the refs saw and I don’t blame them for making this call. However, calls for harsher punishment or even supplemental discipline for Cooke are out of line.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 25, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
OK
My only point is that I think it was a penalty and Jackman didn’t dive. I didn’t think it should have gotten anything more or less.
And think about this. Jackman looked to his right before reaching the boards. Cooke was to his right. Then he felt a slight hook to his right indicating Cooke was still there. Jackman turns his skates to brace himself for a hit and to shield the puck from the player bearing down on him. Cooke then moved to the left and pushed him into the boards with a shoving motion. Same thing Zet did a few games ago. Was it malicious? No. Did it deserve a penalty? Yes. Was it a dive? No. Say what you will about Jackman, but he is not a diver. And from what I have read over here, it doesn’t sound like he is capable of much more than primitive thought, so any premeditated dive is giving him too much credit, right :)
And I agree, making a blanket statement about people calling this a dive are not all morons.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
In addition
The referee was in the absolute PERFECT position to make this call.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Same thing Zet did a few games ago
This is patently false. First of all, you can tell this by the difference of where Cooke’s hand first contacted Jackman (the shoulder) and where Zetterberg’s hand touched Nikitin (the back). Secondly, Brendan Shanahan updated yesterday that both Zetterberg AND Nikitin stressed that there was NO push in that situation. They are not similar at all.
Cooke didn’t move to the left, he kept a straight line the entire way in. No matter how much fun we make of Barret Jackman, I don’t believe he’s so stupid as to not know the positioning of the forechecking forward bearing down on him. I also DO believe that he’s both smart enough to realize the positioning AND dumb enough to actually plant himself face-first into the boards to draw a penalty.
As far as the ref is concerned and how he’s positioned; Yes, he was in the perfect position, but it took me watching this in slow-motion to realize what happened. He had to make the call right that instant. I don’t blame him for using his discretion to say that he didn’t see enough of Jackman putting himself in a vulnerable position.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 25, 2012 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
So....
Then it sounds like we are in agreement??? JK. I respectfully disagree they are not similar, but like our other spat, this will only be resolved when Detroit freezes over.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
when Detroit freezes over.
Read as: “when StL wins a playoff series”
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 25, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Hahaha thanks for getting that.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Also
As a city, I’ll take Detroit over StL any day.
Less murder (and violent crime as a whole), functioning sewer systems, not downstream of several major metropolitan areas, no smell from the Anheuser plant…etc.
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 25, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
I don't live there now.
But did for four years. I loved it. I lived in the city but toward the edges. That part of town is really up and coming. A lot of new local businesses coming in there to make for a nice little renaissance in that part of the city.
Now downtown…
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
interesting
now…knowing what you do about StL, keep in mind that Detroit is even better than that.
:D
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 25, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
I'll have to visit sometime
and judge for myself!!!
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
you're more than welcome to.
every few years there is a spectaular parade on a Tuesday in June….
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
not quite
that happens every year and I am sure happens in StL, too. This is the sort of parade StL has never had, and won’t anytime in the near future.
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 25, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I see what you did there. But I did look up, and the gay pride parade is that same time of the year in Detroit. They could just save some time and money and have them both at the same time!!!
If the Wings are lucky enough to win the Cup, that is.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
STL's is in late June, for the record.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
late June?
Well, that’s good. It gives the Blues plenty of time to fit in a couple months of golf before they attend.
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 25, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Thank God
We don’t have Erik Johnson anymore tearing up his knee on the course.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
And what is he?
From Scandinavia? We spell it with a C over here, Johnson!
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
So where are they similar?
Zetterberg’s boarding penalty was rescinded by the league – the NHL said there was no boarding by Zetterberg in that situation. They said this because the two players who can possibly know what it felt like BOTH said that there was no push.
The mere fact the Zetterberg/Nikitin incident was decidedly NOT boarding and that you say the Cooke hit was boarding means that the two incidences are not similar at all.
Once again, Nikita Nikitin… the guy who fell into the boards awkwardly… THE ONLY PERSON WHO MEETS ANDY SUTTON’S DEFINITION OF BEING AN “EXPERT” IN THIS SITUATION says that Zetterberg doesn’t push him.
You said Zetterberg shoved him. The guy who you said got shoved said there was no shove. Your basis for comparison is gone.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 25, 2012 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
I have a question
Since the league rescinded Z’s penalty, does that mean I’ll lose the 15 PIMs I got for that? I hope that doesn’t cost me any points in either of my leagues. I just returned to my rightful position at the top of the WIIM Filppula league this week and I don’t want to give it up so soon.
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I'm actually not sure
I don’t think they will, since the stat is still showing up on NHL.com.
I think the fact that they rescinded it is more for the case of counting majors and misconducts for repeat offender status.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 25, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
You can’t tell how much force Cooke used by and video. What you can tell his the position of Jackman’s skates, the angle and direction of contact by Cooke, and the angle of Jackman’s body when he hit the boards. If you stop the video and look at the initial contact, Jackman should have gone into the boards shoulder first. Instead, his face (mostly forearms and knee) go into the glass/boards. In other words, all the rotation came from Jackman himself, not from any external force.
Two possibilities are left: Jackman flinched and tried to turn away from the hit (which is silly, because it wasn’t going to be big as Cooke was mostly to the left and at a bad angle for power) OR Jackman purposely turned to draw a penalty (knowing that Cooke couldn’t provide a big push, thereby reducing the chance he would be injured on the play). Either way, Cooke is unfortunately innocent of any infraction.
Be happy with the two minute gimme you got.
Oh, and the Z hit…well, there was no hit. Nikitin lost an edge. Thankfully he appears to be OK.
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Again
I’m not calling for Cooke’s head. I am solely frustrated that people think Jackman dove. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter. Jaxx may get a little overzealous with the stick at time, make some dumb plays, and get under opposing teams’ skin… but a diver he is not.
And I think 2 minutes was deserved by Cooke, but to be honest, if he wouldn’t have gotten anything I could understand it too.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
2 minutes was the right call
but…
a diver he is not
the footage seems to disagree
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 25, 2012 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
I personally don't see a dive
But I do see a defender not putting any effort in bracing for an impact but rather twisting to go for a puck. Putting himself in a vulnerable position. I don’t know why the hell he would do that (he certainly saw Cooke coming), and I wouldn’t eliminate the possibility of a dive/trying-to-draw-a-penalty, but whatever the reason Jackman is not blameless in how that hit looked. The 2 minutes was questionable at best, though not a terrible penalty call.
Jaxx skates change position
at the exact moment the puck moves down the boards in front of him as if he is going to play the puck. His head is looking directly at the puck as if he is going to play it. He braces for the hit as he goes to the corner, watches the puck and begins to move his feet to change directions to play the puck, at the exact same time he does change his skates he gets contact. Maybe he falls off balance, maybe the push was forceful enough to get him off his skates. Either way, no dive.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
But he didn't brace for the hit
Because if he did, he wouldn’t have hit the boards like that face first. And he should have, because he would have actually had a chance to play and control the puck. As it was, he drew a penalty. But damn, he could have gotten injured by doing that.
If he did brace himself, he did a really piss poor job.
I think he braced for a hit
coming from a different point than where it was actually made. I don’t know. I just know that Jackman doesn’t dive. Maybe he is adding that little wrinkle to his game after a decade in the league? Players do change as they age I guess.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
According to SLGT
Shootouts are now just a coin flip, no longer a skills competition. This explains their dismal shootout record despite having the most skilled team in the nhl.
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by krett on Jan 25, 2012 8:03 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Eh
I hate the shootouts, but until the rules are changed they are a necessary evil for us. But we SUCK at them and that needs to change. Good thing shootouts don’t exist in the playoffs though… I think we can all agree that would REALLY suck.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
SLGT
Eh. if they keep mentioning the Wings in every recap, it’s just further confirmation we’re in their heads and they care more about us then their adorable little hockey team.
As for Nick Tonite (see what I did there?), I’m interested to see the whole thing, but I don’t think we’re going to gain any real insight into him as a person beyond a few clips. I’m just hoping the cameras were rolling when his human face was put on like Darth Vader in Empire Strikes Back.
We need to be careful though
Too much longer and we’re going to have to start paying them rent.
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I'm not paying rent until they fix the clogged drain
My metaphor is that their heads are full of shit.
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
The drain is clogged in the Scottrade Bathroom?
No wonder the shit is overflowing.
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 25, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Honest question for you guys over here
If you guys (and gals, I assume) think of us at SLGT as your little brother, when we are obviously pissing you off and pestering you, why don’t you just ignore us? Something being said over there must be getting in your heads as well.
And I won’t keep coming over to pester you guys, other than if important issues arise between the two clubs, but this past week of interactions has fascinated me :)
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
I think it becomes amusement for some people. It’s sure funny to watch. My fear is that some people take it a bit too seriously.
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by Josh Howard on Jan 25, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
sometimes you ignore your little brother
sometimes you bitch-slap him to remind him of the pecking order.
It’s how families work.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 25, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Sometimes
you let him skate on the pond with you and your friends just so you can make it very clear that he shouldn’t be on the same ice as the big boys.
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 25, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
Ha, touche on the bitch-slap.
I still love doing it to my brother.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
And look at that...
JJ admitting that the Red Wings and Blues are all one happy family!!!
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
Not to be rude or anything (honestly not)
But why do you even bother to come over here if your intentions are just to start arguments? Nearly every time I’ve seen you post you’ve incited/escalated a discussion into an argument. I don’t think anyone here as a problem with a non-wings fan discussing things, but why does everything have to be a point of contention?
he just needs a break
from the Scottrade Bathroom. Can you really blame him?
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 25, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Eh
I don’t see it that way. I see it as honest discussion. And aside from the two things being discussed in this specific thread, I don’t think that I have said anything remotely inflammatory. The opposite is true, in my opinion.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
It was either in past monday's game thread or the recap
I don’t remember which (could be both, idk) but you’ve certainly had your fair share of arguments over here recently. And as to your last point, what do you expect? That a site full of red wings fans would take kindly to someone from a rival site venturing over and contesting every incident that occurred? I don’t think it was intentionally done or malicious in anyway (can’t say that for most SLGT members) but it just seemed to me that every discussion you entered turned heated quite quickly.
No when I come over here it is for a different point of view
I want to get other people’s opinions. I’ll share mine too so you know where I/we are coming from. I like talking hockey but it gets boring talking to people who have the same exact opinions you do. Hell, you guys have softened my opinion on the Jackman hit today. Like I said, if I have worn out my welcome then show me the door. Won’t bother me.
And I don’t think anything said in here today or earlier was very heated at all. Just some people honestly sharing thought out opinions and views of what happened. You probably don’t think mine are as well thought out as yours, but I know that coming in.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
For the record...
going over the posts I have made on this site, the only things semi-inflammatory I have said are:
1. One reason people hate you is that you guys call yourself Hockeytown. And that is the royal “you guys”.
2. Said that we beat you in the World Series after somebody said the only thing STL can beat Detroit in is crime or something like that. Meant as a joke and seems like people got that.
3. What was saying this past hour or two.
None of it led to anything malicious or even heated from either side. But whatever, your opinion is your opinion and mine is mine.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
And like I said earlier in this post...
I don’t plan on coming here much except before and after Wings Blues games and important events that you guys will have discussion about. I just think this week has been funny with everything going on and just wanted to see why you even care what we have to say over there. And I think the people that responded took it the right way.
I honestly like coming over here. My intention has never been to start anything.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
And the people I have interacted with most seem to be higher profile people over here
(or so I think, maybe I’m wrong). They can boot me out whenever they want to. Fine with me, it’s your site. But so far I think they have been welcoming.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
Please don't use this line of reasoning
I understand the point of it is to say that the site admins don’t seem to have a problem with you and that is telling.
But I don’t want anybody getting the wrong idea about ultimately whose “side” I’m on here. Megistrus will be around after you’ve grown tired of discussions with us and will still be a Red Wings fan.
I happen to disagree with Megistrus about how “heated” you’ve made the discussion here, as I think you’ve done fairly well to stay reasonable; but I don’t want there to be any confusion about which of you two I like more.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jan 25, 2012 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Not my intention.
But I see where you are coming from. My bad.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Central Division
Red Wings goal differential: +48
Blues, Predators, Blackhawks combined goal differential: +53
Blue Jackets goal differential: -48
by Amerinadian on Jan 25, 2012 8:21 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oh, Columbus
Columbus is on pace for ~56 points. Yes, that is lower than anyone in the division has with over 30 games remaining. It’s also the lowest in the NHL since Philly posted 56 in ‘06-07. What? Oh, why you’re right! That was the year Hitchcock was fired from Philly. Nice observation!
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
It's truly sad
Especially considering they had legitimate playoff aspirations this season.
Amazing that the 2 teams that went the craziest in the offseason spending money (Buffalo and Columbus) are both going to be officially eliminated from the playoffs in February.
by Amerinadian on Jan 25, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
Elliot Friedman just recently did an article looking into big money free agency
Specifically when the player changes teams. And almost completely across the board the results are bad the first year. Some players recover, most don’t. I think I saw it on SCH and it is a good read.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/2012/01/big-deals-dont-always-pay-big-dividends.html
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
Zach Parise might be a wing this year
NJ is going to get everything they can for this guy while they can and we are one of the only teams with the space and the prospects that actually might need him…….I don’t think we NEED to make a move but i think we should only for a top notch Forward …. and maybe a serviceable backup goalie. Nabokov anybody ?
Didn't I see on SLGT
where they said our SO wins were “cheap, cheap, cheap” just a few days ago? So what does that make their one point for a SO loss? I’d have to think if we took a few of our losses to overtime and shootouts and lost there we wouldn’t be having these hour long division leads.. Though I have to imagine they’d complain that we’re still getting cheap points.
It would work the other way
If they weren’t so bad at shootouts, they’d say that while they didn’t like them, they were more than happy to secure points in that fashion.
Like I said when I was at the Phoenix game a couple weeks ago,
“I hate the shootout, except when the Wings win”
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
My take on SOs
I love baseball as a sport first, but watching hockey on tv is such a more exciting thing that it comes above watching baseball. Playoff OT is unreal, it’s the best thing in sports. Before the NHL went to the shootout, they also owned the worst thing in sports: a tie game. Poorly played ties were awful and were bad for the NHL.
Fan of the Detroit Tigers, Lions and Red Wings.
I feel like a complete idiot right now
but Bertuzzi has never won a cup?!?!?!? How did this escape me? You know what would look great in the hands of the Hulktuzzi? A Stanley Cup!
5 for #5 and a hoist for the Hulktuzzi!
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by Dannik99 on Jan 25, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
But he'd have to get the Cup last
because we all know Hulktuzzi would immediately snap it in half
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This made me picture hoisting Hudler while Hudler holds the Cup…
by EthrDemon on Jan 25, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
because my mental picture is awesome. Also Hudler has happy face in this picture.
by Red, White and a Mile high on Jan 25, 2012 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you for this!
Now I’m imagining Huds needing the trainer to help him hold the cup.
I'm a Homer
Hudler sitting on Bert's shoulders hoisting the Cup...
still might not get it higher than Chara did last year.
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Didn't Pierre Maguire tweet this after Chicago game a couple weeks ago?
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He may have...
Because during an in-game interview with Bertuzzi, he said that Bertuzzi was a Cup champion.
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
That would require me to follow Pierre on twitter.
I can’t afford a new monitor every time I would smash it if that were the case.
by SlapshotGoal on Jan 25, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
Just watched the Cooke hit.
Can’t argue with the ref calling a penalty at game speed, but Jackman most certainly shares blame in it and it isn’t anywhere near suspendable (the penalty itself was questionable). I agree with JJ…Jackman twisted himself to play the puck going by him and in so doing put himself in a vulnerable position. It was stupid because he KNEW Cooke was there behind him, and I even think he knew a hit was coming. He just didn’t do enough (or anything, really) to brace for a hit. What he should have done was meet Cooke’s hit with a shoulder of his own so that he could play the puck.
Whether he twisted like that on purpose to draw the penalty…I’m not so inclined to think that. I have a hard time thinking a defender would be so dumb to let somebody hit them into the boards like that face first. The puck was right there, so I’m more inclined to believe he was going for the puck and just didn’t think Cooke would check him as hard as he did into the boards.
Bottom line, the 2 minute call was questionable but understandable. Suspension-worthy…nowhere near that ballpark, even for a dirty scumbag like Cooke.
This is about exactly what my thoughts on the situation are.
If you watch the entire play, every move Jackman makes is coordinated with where the puck is and where he expects Cooke to be. Thanks for being fair minded on this.
by TheFlyingCavallinis on Jan 25, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
I think we're all arguing semantics
I don’t think anyone here has a truly ridiculous interpretation of the hit. Reality probably falls somewhere in between. Either jackman made a conscious decision to draw a penalty (which can be construed as diving to some depending on how they define it), or he didn’t brace himself enough while simultaneously twisting to receive the puck (aka “puck watching”). Given the evidence, I think both stances are arguable. Without asking Jackman himself, we’ll never really know.
I get physics
Jackman tried to draw a major by defying them. I’d be able to take a check like that from Cooke any day without fear for my health at all. He barely shoved him.
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