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Morning Skate: Original 6 Hatred

Tonight's game has a little more meaning to it for those Red Wings fans that are from the greater Toronto area, that's why I asked our very own Graham, born and raised near the mean streets of Toronto, to set up tonight's Original 6 clash.

In the recent history of the Red Wings, there are several teams that have elicited strong feelings of hatred and rage. However, one team that often gets overlooked when talking about rivals are tonight's opponent, the Toronto Maple Leafs.

I've written at length about my feelings regarding the Leafs and their fans, but what people tend to forget is that these two teams were extremely bitter enemies for a very long time. Well before the Leafs finally punched their ticket to the Eastern Conference in 1999, they tangled with the Red Wings in the old Norris Division, creating some memorable moments. Playoff matchups in the 1980s, Probert vs Clark, Nikolai Borschevsky. Battles between the Leafs and Red Wings were bitter, physical and at times ugly.

However, while the enmity between the fans who can remember those times remains strong, the overall bad blood between the teams is virtually non-existent. Both teams have moved on to find new enemies. The Wings get to do battle with the Sharks, Ducks and Avalanche, while the Leafs tangle with the Canadiens, Sabres and Senators.

Tonight, two former rivals clash in a game that means more to some of us than others. If you're old enough to remember the old Norris Division, then it's a chance to rekindle the animosity that may have gone dormant while you focused on the new Central Division. We may not play them as much as we used to, but that doesn't mean we can't get a good hate on for at least one night.

Oh, and if you need any additional motivation: these two may be playing each other in the Winter Classic next season.


Pension Plan Puppets is your SBNation Leafs' blog.

Puck drop is just after 7p ET on FSD for the local fans, Hockey Night in Canada for our Canadian friends, and NHL Network for everyone else.

Star-divide

The Expected Lineup

Johan Franzen -- Pavel Datsyuk -- Todd Bertuzzi

Valtteri Filppula -- Henrik Zetterberg -- Jiri Hudler

Danny Cleary -- Justin Abdelkader -- Drew Miller

Gustav Nyquist -- Cory Emmerton -- Chris Conner

*

Nicklas Lidstrom -- Ian White

Niklas Kronwall -- Brad Stuart

Jakub Kindl -- Jonathan Ericsson

*

Jimmy Howard (starting)

Ty Conklin

Scratches: Mike Commodore

Injuries: Tomas Holmstrom (groin), Darren Helm (groin) and Patrick Eaves (jaw)

RED WINGS HOW THEY MATCH UP MAPLE LEAFS
25-13-1 (51 pts; 4th in West) Record 20-15-5 (45 pts; 8th in East)
3.26 (3rd) Goals Per Game 3.15 (5th)
2.25 (5th) Goals Against Per Game 3.15 (25th)
19.5% (6th) Power Play % 21.1% (3rd)
81.8% (20th) Penalty Kill % 73.4% (30th)
Johan Franzen (16 goals) Goal Leader Phil Kessel (23 goals)
Pavel Datsyuk (40 points) Points Leader Phil Kessel (46 points)

  • The Red Wings are 275-272-93-3 (W-L-T-OTL) all-time against the Maple Leafs
  • This is the 644th meeting between these two clubs
  • A win will give Detroit a .500 record on the road. They're currently 10-11-0.
  • Jimmy Howard can record his 100th win tonight.
  • Toronto has the worst ranked PK in the league. If the Wings get the man advantage, they must score.
  • Phil Kessel is second in the league in goals and third in points. Brian Burke probably still gave the Bruins way too much for the kid, but the trade doesn't seem as lopsided as it once did.
  • Dion Phaneuf was hit in the face from a slap shot in Toronto's last game, a 4-0 win over the Jets (surprising because he doesn't play for the Wings). He is expected to play tonight.

Prediction: So it's an Original 6 battle, he Wings are on their annual fathers trip, they visited the Hall of Fame with their dads, Jimmy is going for win number 100, if you add in overtime losses with the regulation losses the all-time series is tied up and 275 wins for each team...tonight's game is going to be fun. I smell a competitive, close scoreless game in the first period and the Wings break down the door in the second. Detroit wins 3-0 and Jimmy Howard is your player of the game.

Let's Go Red Wings

Let's Go Lions.

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man i hope this is the Winter Classic Matchup for next year.

like you said original 6 teams with a lot of hatred for each other.

by THR1LLHOUSE on Jan 7, 2012 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

Going to the game tonight

Had to mortgage my house, my car and if I want a Burkie’s Hot Dog I’ll probably have to mortgage my girlfriend, but I’m seeing the Wings in the city I live in for the first time, so it’s all worth it.

GO WINGS GO!!!!!

by eight_legged_freaks on Jan 7, 2012 9:46 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Don't look now. . .

But 2 points tonight means we go top of the division and maybe the conference, with games in hand.

Kronwall’s one goal, one assist effort will merit POTG honors in a 4-1 win.

by Wizard of Corsica on Jan 7, 2012 10:03 AM CST reply actions  

Finally, a Toronto-RW game

Unfortunately, I’ll be watching the Lions :(

Oh, and 5-1, Datsyuk

"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante

by DetroitSports on Jan 7, 2012 10:10 AM CST reply actions  

I'll probably stream the Lions game online

if NBC does their online coverage, which I think they do

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by MuleRules on Jan 7, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

The games will be streamed on

nbcsports.com for those interested

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by MuleRules on Jan 7, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Pretty amazing

the wings are top five in goals for and goals against. They should be running shit in the western conference with that kind of offensive and defensive production. Hopefully two wins this weekend will put the wings on track towards division supremacy.

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by Eric @ PRBU on Jan 7, 2012 10:25 AM CST reply actions  

that losing streak at the start of the season skewed everything

if we could have split those games instead of losing them all we’d be about 6 points in the clear. . .

by Wizard of Corsica on Jan 7, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Feels like ages since the last televised Wings game in my area.
Joffrey Lupul, eh? What a stupid ass name. Who the hell spells their name Joffrey??? It’s Jeffrey…idiot.

Hi-lariously put. How do you feel about Geoffs (I always pronounce that one as spelled)?

Spending the last 4 and some years in Toronto for school has me excited for any chance the Wings can silence unbearable Leafs fans and their excuses, the stat readout for this one seems to make it worth a bit more though. Also really excited for the 4th line tonight.
3-1 Wings, Conner shows his desire to stay up and is POG.

by WingnutNorthOfThe49 on Jan 7, 2012 10:26 AM CST reply actions  

Geoff (pronounced G-OFF)

Is quite possibly worse than Joffrey

Brendan Smith fan

by JeffHancock41 on Jan 7, 2012 10:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Its a rebound game for Jimmy Howard

4-2 Detroit; and Howie will go back to being his true self

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Fantasy: PoD Bench League (PackMules (5-12) 7th Place) / WIIM Mursak League (Wingedmule (76-73-32))
Restoring the Roar - The 2011 Detroit Lions! (10-6) SMASH THE SAINTS!

by MuleRules on Jan 7, 2012 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

more DET vs TOR games is 90% of why i want us in the Eastern Conf.

fuck Bettman and his 4 conf. plan.

I dont want more games against Minn. and Winnipeg, I want more vs. the Original Six.

Quote from a Toronto fan I met: “calling Detroit Hockeytown is like calling Toronto the Motor City” haha – too bad, so sad

by wowjimi on Jan 7, 2012 2:13 PM CST reply actions  

I want Commie back.

For whatever inconceivable reason, he helped keep Ericsson honest.
He also was a bit surprising in his level of play.

"I'll smile in June."

by Lords of Olympia on Jan 7, 2012 2:45 PM CST reply actions  

yea - i'm shocked how well those two played together

dare i say ericsson played up to his salary???

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by Igorzba on Jan 7, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Someone asked a while ago the teams we have losing records with

Buf & Philly we are close but have losing records and Montreal we are like -70 wins

by Splints on Jan 7, 2012 4:00 PM CST reply actions  

Also, going to a chili cook-off at friends house for the game, and he’s from Toronto, so don’t leave me hanging guys…

by EthrDemon on Jan 7, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

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