Would you pursue this deal?

by Scott Kenny on Feb 16, 2012 7:19 PM CST

Feel free to tell me if my tinfoil hat is showing, but:

Just saw via www.nhl.com that the Lightning are sitting Pavel Kubina in the interest of seeing what kind of a market there is for him.

The Tampa Bay Lightning are holding defenseman Pavel Kubina out of the lineup, and he's been asked which teams he would be willing to accept a trade to, the team announced Thursday.

The skinny is that Kubina is in the second year of a two-year deal that carries a $3.8 million cap hit (only having to pay the pro-rated remainder and him being a UFA come July, this should be no problem). On the year, he's played 52 games and has a 3-8-11 line while being +1 on a severely under-performing Tampa squad. Not to mention, he has 46 games of playoff experience and won a Cup with the Lightning in 2004. As for what it would take to get him, I'd be willing to offer something along the lines of Jakub Kindl and a 4th/5th - vaguely basing what Yzerman would find acceptable (in my opinion) upon the Moore deal just completed. We get a rental with playoff experience to play important postseason minutes alongside Jonathan Ericsson, and also manage to open a spot for Brendan Smith next season.

via l.yimg.com

Would you guys do this deal? Think he's realistically worth more/less? Not a fan of Kubina over Kindl? Would you rather trade Ericsson for Kubs? I'd love to see what others think about this possibility.

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You have to imagine...

at the very least Holland rang Stevie Y about this. I think most would agree that Detroit’s still a piece or two shy of a deep playoff run. Kubina’s got great size, moves the puck pretty well, and could be a good fit for the Wings. I don’t think I’d trade Ericsson, however. He’s been pretty solid this season. He’s meaner in the corners and his outlet passes are much improved. I’m not so sure he’s earned every penny of that contract of his, but I don’t think it looks like a horrible deal now either. I have mixed feelings about trading Kindl, but his name is probably the one constant in any trade discussion. Anyway, San Jose just grabbed Moore, so that means Moen is still out there as well. However, with Nash in the mix, and that having a ripple effect on the rest of the buyers, I’m sure all GMs have Plans A, B, and C in place, so we’ll just have to wait little while longer to see how this all plays out.

by I trust my eyes to Dr. Ramani on Feb 16, 2012 8:16 PM CST reply actions

I'd dispute that

I think most would agree that Detroit’s still a piece or two shy of a deep playoff run

Based on what evidence?

by Big Z in Orlando on Feb 17, 2012 8:59 AM CST up reply actions

Just playing devil's advocate

At the moment, based on the evidence that the power play has been anemic at times and also the fact that we can’t seem to start on time away from the Joe. The second point is a little more ambiguous, but it’s a factor nonetheless. Adding either a playmaker or pure scorer would possibly help the first issue, and adding some size and grit may help the second issue.

That’s all I got.

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by Scott Kenny on Feb 17, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions

I'll agree

The Wings are not a perfect team.

the power play has been anemic

True, but not a Cup Killer. See: Boston 2011

we can’t seem to start on time away from the Joe

Two Points:

1. This isn’t typically an issue in the playoffs. The Wings tend to play a more intense game in the playoffs.
2. Home Ice Advantage. If they only have to win the 4 on home ice, the Wings have a pretty decent chance to do that.

Would I like to see the Wings get better with a trade? Maybe. It would depend on what they have to give away. I might be more inclined to trade a promising prospect or future draft pick this year so we can give Lidstrom a suitable going-away present.

by Big Z in Orlando on Feb 20, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions

I'd be cool with Kubina coming to Detroit

But I wouldn’t give up Kindl. Yzerman traded Dominic Moore and a 7th for a 2nd round pick. Nicklas Grossman went for a 2nd and a 3rd. You could very well get him for less. Maybe a 2nd and a 4th or a mid level prospect and a pick. Yzerman knows the farm system. He could have his eye on a player or two.

Brendan Smith fan

by JeffHancock41 on Feb 16, 2012 8:17 PM CST reply actions

Not a chance I'd give up Kindl for a Kubina rental/potential rental.

Way too pricey

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by AppState on Feb 16, 2012 9:20 PM CST reply actions

gotta agree with AppState

Kubina is a career -99. That’s horrendous for a defenceman no matter how bad of teams you’ve played on. Kindl is on a better track than Kubina. He just doesn’t seem to have the chops to really prove he’s more valuable.

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by styks on Feb 16, 2012 9:32 PM CST reply actions