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Morning Skate: Western Showdown

It's Number 1 vs Number 2.

Battle of Division Leaders.

The two top teams in the West squaring off in a game that will have an impact on the race for the first seed in the West.

This game is important for both teams and I guarantee you that both teams badly want to win this game. For the Canucks, it's a chance to gain ground on the Wings for home ice advantage. Vancouver, even though they made in the Cup Finals last season, is still out to prove themselves. Not too long ago, Henrik Sedin came out and said the Canucks need to be more like the Red Wings. They're trying get rid of the diving, the cheap crap, and grow up. Tonight they'll try to prove that they can be like the Wings against the very team they're trying to be like.

For the Red Wings, it's a chance to further themselves from the pack of rabid teams nipping at their heels. It's a chance to improve the road record above .500 and do it against one of the better teams. Let's face it, the Wings suck on the road. They're a completely different team and it annoys the hell out of me. If they can go into Vancouver and stick it to a team that's pretty darn good, that's going to go a very long way for this team's confidence about playing on the road and it sure as hell will give us fans more confidence too.

This isn't a road game against a crappy Eastern Conference team. The Wings know what's at stake. The race for the playoffs is underway and Orca is on tonight's menu.

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The Expected Lineup

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Johan Franzen -- Pavel Datsyuk -- Todd Bertuzzi

Valtteri Filppula -- Henrik Zetterberg -- Jiri Hudler

Danny Cleary -- Darren Helm -- Drew Miller

Jan Mursak -- Justin Abdelkader -- Tomas Holmstrom

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Nicklas Lidstrom -- Ian White

Niklas Kronwall -- Brad Stuart

Jonathan Ericsson -- Mike Commodore

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Jimmy Howard (starting)

Ty Conklin

Scratches: Cory Emmerton and Jakub Kindl

Injuries: Patrick Eaves (jaw)

RED WINGS HOW THEY MATCH UP CANUCKS
34-16-1 (69 pts; 1st in West) Record 31-15-4 (66 pts; 2nd in West)
3.10 (5th in NHL) Goals Per Game 3.16 (3rd in NHL)
2.31 (6th) Goals Against Per Game 2.40 (7th)
18.2% (12th) Power Play % 23.0% (1st)
80.8% (23rd) Penalty Kill % 85.6% (6th)
Johan Franzen (19 goals) Goal Leader Daniel Sedin (22 goals)
Pavel Datsyuk (53 points) Points Leader Henrik Sedin (53 points)

  • The Red Wings are 81-54-18-4 (W-L-T-OTL) all-time against the Vancouver Canucks franchise.
  • The Canucks have won five games-in-a-row and are 9-1-0 in their last 10 games.
  • Roberto Luongo is 10-10-5 with 2.64 GAA and .927 SV% all-time against the Red Wings. Meanwhile, Jimmy Howard is 6-5-0 with a 2.94 GAA and .907 SV% with 1 shutout all-time against the Canucks. Neither goalies numbers are spectacular, but this game will come down to the goalie that can make the big stop at a big moment.
  • According to Elias (via ESPN), Jiri Hudler has 10 goals in his last 16 roads games. He had 11 goals in his previous 66 road games spanning his last three NHL seasons.
  • Todd Bertuzzi is one goal away from 300 in his career.
  • From NHL.com, the Red Wings are 68-3-4 (W-L-OTL) in their last 75 games when they score four or more goals.

Prediction: This game is going to come down to three things: specialty teams, goaltending and depth. The team that gets the most of their power play is going to win. It's going to be a tough task for the Wings. Vancouver has the best PP in the league and their PK isn't pretty darn good too. The Canucks are going to get their chances and Jimmy is going to have to make the big save when necessary. The 3rd and 4th lines were fantastic on Tuesday. Those lines are going to have to outplay the Canucks bottom two lines. If the Wings can win those three areas of the game mentioned above, they'll win this game tonight. It's going to be 4-2 Detroit with an empty netter. Pavel Datsyuk is your player of the game.

Let's Go Red Wings.

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5-3 Wings with the Birthday Boy as PotG

Bert gets the hattie to celebrate his 37th birthday and bring tears to the eyes of his former team and their fans.

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by zfan16 on Feb 2, 2012 9:06 AM CST reply actions  

If I see this, I rec it

EVERY TIME!

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by MuleRules on Feb 2, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you good sir.

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by Josh Howard on Feb 2, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Saw this commen on a Vancouver paper's website

Link

Wings are 13-4 since Xmas and are considered at the top of their game. The Canucks are 7-2-2 in January and are being criticized….this is why the Nucks will make another run and the ageing but still solid wings won’t

I’d hardly argue the Wings are “at the top of their game” right now. They have won a lot of games by the skin of their teeth while playing just well enough to earn 2 points. This is a team that barely beat Columbus and got blown out by the Islanders and Canadiens.

by Amerinadian on Feb 2, 2012 9:22 AM CST reply actions  

even if the wings were dominating all these games

I fail to see how this leads to the wings failing and canucks succeeding. You would think a canadian journalist would be able to write a well thought out piece on hockey.

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by Eric @ PRBU on Feb 2, 2012 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Hilarious

Do any of you know who the people are who keep saying the Wings are at the top of their game?

How did this asshat get this idea in his head? Apparently, he hasn’t been around the Red Wings’ blogosphere where Detroit beats Calgary 3-1 and we spend the next day talking about whether our team’s leading goalscorer needs to be benched or whether our best shut-down forward should be traded for a guy who’ll put up better offensive numbers.

WHICH ONE OF YOU ASSHOLES TOLD THIS REPORTER THAT THE WINGS ARE AT THE TOP OF THEIR GAME?!

by J.J. from Kansas on Feb 2, 2012 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Technically

It was a comment from a reader.

Just wanted to point out that Canuck fans have developed the same type of elitist arrogance and superiority complex that Wing fans have had for years.

by Amerinadian on Feb 2, 2012 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah, just saw that.

my bad. idiot canuck fans. Im also an idiot apparently.

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by Eric @ PRBU on Feb 2, 2012 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Good point, especially considering the Wings' road record

All they did was look at the numbers; no real information on how close the games were and which were won in OT/Shootout. There have been occasional flashes of the “real” Red Wings (like the St. Lous game), but then there were the real clunkers.

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by zfan16 on Feb 2, 2012 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

"real" Red Wings

see overtime vs. Chicago in that NBC game (think it was 1/14/12)

You wanna tell me that to mah face?!

by uvgt2bkdnme on Feb 2, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

oh snap

that was a beauty… so. much. domination.

by kylegroombridge on Feb 2, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

oh fuck!

WHY WASN’T I TOLD WE’RE TOO OLD TO WIN!?!?!?
TRADE EVERYONE!!!
GET ME DAVID BACKES!!!
WE’RE SO FUCKED!!!
ABANDON SHIP!!!

"I'll smile in June."

by Lords of Olympia on Feb 2, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

also, i'd hardly say we're a "puck possessing" team these days.

we still try to keep that part of the system active but i think we’ve actually learned to live without that as the primary mode of play.

"I'll smile in June."

by Lords of Olympia on Feb 2, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd say we've learned to go chamelon on some of these teams...

It seems we sometimes mirror their play with tweaks that make us more efficient and use the nutso forechecking to get in there and create turnovers. Hey, if it wins games, I’m all for it!

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by Josh Howard on Feb 2, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Was looking at the standings the other day

Boy, the Red Wings’ rearview mirror looks a lot different than that of the Canucks. It must be nice to have no competition in your division.

by RedPandaAlex on Feb 2, 2012 9:27 AM CST reply actions  

Update to the Quick Hits

Somehow I missed the Blue Jackets getting absolutely screwed out of an opportunity to win their game against the Kings in OT last night.

by J.J. from Kansas on Feb 2, 2012 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

i saw that

i remember watching the highlights for the first time, and my eye caught sight of the clock; when i watched the replay and saw the clock again, it definitely slowed down then stopped at 1.8 seconds left before finishing.

that’s not to say the arena clock and TV game clock are necessarily in sync, but that’s definitely shady.

You wanna tell me that to mah face?!

by uvgt2bkdnme on Feb 2, 2012 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Wings 4 - Twisted Sisters 2

J-Wowww is POTG

Goalies are enforcers too.
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by AppState on Feb 2, 2012 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

23-0 Nucks.

My predictions skills are usually off but even if I miss it by one or two here I feel pretty good.

BTW, what is the problem with the Wings and the road? Bad line matchups…bad special teams…no good Swedish restaurants on the road.

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by westy99 on Feb 2, 2012 9:54 AM CST reply actions  

3-1 Wings

Howard POTG

I like to Dangle Dangle.

by playboyperry509 on Feb 2, 2012 10:08 AM CST reply actions  

I would like to see pretty much the opposite of all these things.

:D

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by mhsilver on Feb 2, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

4-2 Wings, Hudler PotG

Jiri with a clutch night. While the Sedins keep the Datsyuk line busy and Kesler is worried about Z and Fil, Hudler will be freed up to finish a couple plays off. Be nice to see ol’ Todd Bertuzzi pot #300 on his birthday back in Vancouver as well. Regardless of what happens, you know this will be a fantastic game. Go Wings!

by Jason T on Feb 2, 2012 10:59 AM CST reply actions  

It would be nice to get a road win against a good team.

Hopefully they can play hockey and make it so.

Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.

by Brion on Feb 2, 2012 11:00 AM CST via Android app reply actions  

4-3 Detroit, The Magician!

Pav and Z come out in the third and shows why its better to have a Euro Twin who can play 2- way hockey, than a real twin how just passes a lot.

I'm a Homer

by holmstrom96 on Feb 2, 2012 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

Jeff

have you predicted the Red Wings to lose in any of the Morning Skates this season?

You wanna tell me that to mah face?!

by uvgt2bkdnme on Feb 2, 2012 12:23 PM CST reply actions  

Nope.

Never. 82-0-0 every year, baby!

However, if the Red Wings played a team full of Brendan Smith clones at every position. I might consider picking against them.

Brendan Smith fan

by JeffHancock41 on Feb 2, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Whatever, I don't believe it.

He’s flash his pearly white smile with those perfect teeth at you and you would be unable to pick against him (them?).

by SlapshotGoal on Feb 2, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

2-1 Wings, Bert

A year ago today, Bert got the shootout winner on his Bday. Same thing is going to happen here.

Unfortunately, this is only going to be a close game because the Wings aren’t going to show up…so there is also the risk of the Nucks blowing us out.

by shanny14 on Feb 2, 2012 12:47 PM CST reply actions  

I thought I remembered Bert getting the SO winner on his B-day last year against the Wild, but when I looked at the 10-11 schedule results, we played the Senators and won 7-5 on his birthday last year. The Wild game was on Feb. 20th. Isn’t it weird we both remembered the same things, but it’s not right? Something in the air?

by SlapshotGoal on Feb 2, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it was his 1,000, but for some reason I was also thinking it was his birthday. Obviously I was thinking wrong, but I take some comfort in not being the only one. :)

by SlapshotGoal on Feb 2, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

4-3 Wings, Hudler potg

Just started following this blog…love it!! GO WINGS!!!

by TheLegendsClub on Feb 2, 2012 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

3-2 Wings

Birthday Boy Bert scores his 400th, and 401st (late)

by DarthSparty on Feb 2, 2012 1:03 PM CST reply actions  

Actually, he just going for 300 (I think)

But knowing how sleep-deprived I’ve been lately, I may be wrong and you may be right.

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by zfan16 on Feb 2, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I like this prediction 100%

why not Jimmah?

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by MuleRules on Feb 2, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

4-3 Wings, Valtteri

2 point night for Val, because he’s sick of being “the other wing on Hudler’s line.”

by EthrDemon on Feb 2, 2012 1:27 PM CST reply actions  

4-2 Red Wings

Jimmy Howard is god; Todd gets #300

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by MuleRules on Feb 2, 2012 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

Gah!

I forgot to list Tuzzi getting #300, but I’m counting on it.

by SlapshotGoal on Feb 2, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

5-3 Wings...

Johan Franzen POTG…..he owes us some effort after that abysmal performance

by Veihl789 on Feb 2, 2012 1:50 PM CST reply actions  

Khan just updated that Mursak and Commodore are out for tonight.

Bummer, I was looking forward to seeing Commie play. (Before this season I NEVER thought I would say that)

by SlapshotGoal on Feb 2, 2012 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

I wanted more Mursak, too.

kid had jets last game.

"I'll smile in June."

by Lords of Olympia on Feb 2, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I also prefer Commie and the Sak

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by Dannik99 on Feb 2, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

mursak kept emmerton looking respectable

and i feel like Rig needs Commie to keep him honest.
i haven’t figured out why but it seems to be what happens.

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by Lords of Olympia on Feb 2, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

yup

If Commie makes Rig better… bring him back next year! If Emmerton plays well with Mursak… put them together all the time when allowable. The problems are really gonna start when Eaves comes back. It’s gonna be a great problem to have so many forwards that can score. :)

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by Josh Howard on Feb 2, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

ha ha...

Adelkader needs to find a new home, anyway.
Him hanging out on line 4 is just no place for the kid to be.
Gotta find room for these people somehow.

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by Lords of Olympia on Feb 2, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope you mean a new home on a different line. I don’t want Abby to go anywhere else.

by SlapshotGoal on Feb 2, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

oh most definitely on a different line.

what would i do without my appledaquiri?

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by Lords of Olympia on Feb 2, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Screw it

I say we dress 5 lines and just sneak them out. Mursak can double as Helm, Emmerton can dye his hair and pretend to be Flip…. you get the idea.

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by Josh Howard on Feb 2, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm really starting to worry about Eaves.

I really like him and he was playing well before the incident. I have this worry deep down that him being gone for so long will make people forget how good he is and how much we like him. NOBODY FORGET EAVES! (whew, I feel better)

by SlapshotGoal on Feb 2, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

I worry about that too. BUT, I don’t think Eaves has been good at anything except PK this year from what I remember. Kid needs to get some time on a top line filling in again before I can re-evaluate him. He’s valuable to us. I’m glad we have him. As soon as we don’t, someone skilled will get hurt with no one to plug that hole.

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by Josh Howard on Feb 2, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

See, it's been too long already!

I honestly don’t think we got to see enough of him this season to really evaluate him. I don’t feel like I can get a complete evaluation until around the half way mark at least. Sometimes players make it easy to do so sooner, but I like to give them some time to make their case. Eaves was really good on the PK, and if I remember correctly, he was starting to up his play overall. Another thing I love about him is that he plays hard and gives it his all. It reminds me of a Pavel interview I watched earlier, the interviewer asked Pav what’s one thing he would tell kids to work on to better their game. pav said heart; that you have to want to compete and play with passion. (No that’s not a direct quote obviously)

by SlapshotGoal on Feb 2, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

And with the Red Wings doing so well

I wonder if management is debating the merits of bringing him back at all, barring injury of course.

It's like ESPN Detroit, except less uptight. The Detroit Hustle

by jehu22 on Feb 2, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I have fears like this. I blame my roster/player anxiety on Lidstrom.

by SlapshotGoal on Feb 2, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Synergy

I think it’s unfortunate that the Sedins have such strong synergy with each other. Without it, they could reenact The Prestige on ice, switching jerseys out in between periods so in each one they’re able to skate all out.

by Nim ~ on Feb 2, 2012 2:50 PM CST reply actions  

5-2 Canucks

A second liner for PotG.

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by Elfuego51 on Feb 2, 2012 4:34 PM CST reply actions  

3-2 'Nucks win with Johan as the PotG

It’s such an unlikely PotG that I hope the whole thing doesn’t come true. Reverse psychology!

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by Scott Kenny on Feb 2, 2012 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

Looking forward to this one.

Wonder twins against the Magician of Motown.

Cheering for Vancouver, obviously, but just like the Nucks/Hawks game the other night, I think fans of fantastic, high-paced hockey will walk away from the game the real winners overall.

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by mhsilver on Feb 2, 2012 5:11 PM CST reply actions  

Showed up drunk after I went to the Nucks/Hawks game

Said that Crawford was outplayed but the Nucks’ backup goalie, and that Crawford was not good enough to get the job done.

This led to personal attacks against me, I responded in kind, yada yada.

Chicago fans are idiots, by and large, in case you didn’t know.

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by mhsilver on Feb 2, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

It's all in the 3rd period thread from that game if you want to read it.

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by mhsilver on Feb 2, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I was reading it and I saw people mentioning your name before you ever commented. Then they said you showed up to start shit.

I’m not really privvy, since I don’t read all the comments over there, but it seemed a bit like they had the story backwards.

by J.J. from Kansas on Feb 2, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, they can ban me.

It’s the forum with the least intelligent discussion. Oddly, it’s the mods I like chatting with most… and they usually end up visiting Nucks Misconduct and other blogs anyway, cause they’re sensible, sociable people.

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by mhsilver on Feb 2, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

It’s the forum with the least intelligent discussion.

I’m guessing that you haven’t been to St. Louis Game Time

by Red, White and a Mile high on Feb 2, 2012 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Eh, it is what it is

I think you’ve got a pretty good idea where the timeout line around here is.

by J.J. from Kansas on Feb 2, 2012 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, and every other forum.

Because the timeout line is rational. In SCH, you say something a guy doesn’t like about his favorite team, suddenly you’re a troll.

Whatever, not worth it. I wouldn’t have posted there tonight anyway, cause even money the Hawks get smoked by Edmonton AGAIN.

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by mhsilver on Feb 2, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Ive got a bad feeling about this...

My Han Solo radar is going off; its detecting a 3-1 Vancouver result.

With our record on the road and Vancouver’s performance lately Im just not feeling good about this one.

by Ghoststriker on Feb 2, 2012 6:19 PM CST reply actions  

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