Report: Todd Bertuzzi to Get 2-Year Extension
by Amerinadian on Feb 22, 2012 9:17 AM CST
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Keeping with the theme of "everything is happening" that began yesterday, a report came out from Helene St. James* that Todd Bertuzzi is going to be the recipient of a 2-year extension from the Red Wings. According to the Freep, the deal could be announced as early as Thursday.
It can't be stressed enough that this is just a report, but St James is pretty convinced that it's going to happen. According to her story, the deal would be worth $2.2 per season. Of note: this would be a 35+ contract, so if he gets injured or retires before the deal ends, it would still count against the Wings' cap.
I get that people are excited for this signing, but I'm not that big of a fan. I don't like a $2.2M per season deal for a guy who last year scored 2 goals in his final 21 games and scored 3 in his final 30 the year before. I also don't like a 2-year deal for a guy who has had a questionable injury past. There's also the uncertainty of the CBA and what the terms of that are going to be. Overall, I would have preferred to see the Wings see what Bert brings the rest of the season before deciding to award him with a multi-year deal, because I think there are younger guys ready to step up and take his place on the team.
* From Jeff, a reminder: this is the same digger that reported Osgood was coming back last year.
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#pissed >:(
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
Just going to repost what I said in Quick Hits
Not sure I like this. If Lidstrom is to return, we have to have Holmstrom, too. That means our only loss on the front line this offseason is Hudler. With the youngsters ready to make the jump, we may be short on on roster spots unless we trade some people away. Basically… this may have screwed up any grand free agency plans
I know Lidstrom and Homer are best friends
but I don’t think one returning necessarily means the other returns. If the Wings win the Cup, I think they’re both gone. Even with Bert’s reported 2.2M, it would have been hard to sign both Parise AND Suter this offseason. Suter has to be priority #1. Wings have way more talent on the forward side in the prospect pool. Whether Nick come back or not, they need Suter to help replace him. Staurt is gone imo. We’ll be looking at a defense of Kronwall, White, Quincey, Ericsson, Kindl, Smith and/or Lidstrom and/or Suter.
With all that said, who the hell knows. Holland has the crap all planned out already I bet.
Brendan Smith fan
by JeffHancock41 on Feb 22, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
Stuart
I think you’re right on. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. I think Stuart is going to sign out west for another team to stay close to family. I can’t be mad at him for it, his family obviously doesn’t want to move. He’s later in his career and has served us well while we’ve had him. But, we need to realize that we can’t keep guys for their entire career all the time.
We’ve been spoiled. I actually think if and when he leaves, something or someone will turn up. Who knows… maybe Holland knows something we don’t. Maybe Holland has already talked and Stewie’s gonna take less.
Whatever happens, it’s not as if we’re some fly by night team. We will survive and we will continue improving. Stuart’s just a spoke in the Winged Wheel that continues to roll along no matter who leaves or stays.
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Only way I see Staurt come back is if Nick retires
Kronwall—Stuart
White—Smith
Quincey—Ericsson
Kindl
And I think they go hard after Suter regardless of what Nick does
Brendan Smith fan
by JeffHancock41 on Feb 22, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
…you would put Smith as a second pairing d-man
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Feb 22, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hell yeah I would.
He played on the 2nd pair when he was called up. High expectations for the kid. Pairings get readjusted if Suter is signed or Lidstrom returns, of course.
Brendan Smith fan
by JeffHancock41 on Feb 22, 2012 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
I think most of us would die if that happens
Can you imagine how pissed Smith would be? He’s more than NHL ready, but Kenny knows best.
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by Josh Howard on Feb 22, 2012 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Most of us would die
in the resulting Hancock Massacre of 2012
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Feb 22, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
totally disagree
Kronwall – White
Quincey – Stuart
Ericsson – Smith/Kindl
And I think Stuart will walk, so Suter would take the top line pairing Kronwall with Quincey. That would be a freakin awesome set of pairings. Best D in the league by far.
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I would fight to keep Kronwall and Stuart (if he were to stay) on a pair together until I’m blue in the face. I love those two on a line together and they seem to have good communication/coordination.
by SlapshotGoal on Feb 22, 2012 10:00 AM CST up reply actions
Disageee with your disagreement
Lidstrom — Smith
Weber — Suter
Kronwall —Quincey
Ericsson is traded for straight up for Nash and Kindl is traded for Bobby Ryan.
Brendan Smith fan
by JeffHancock41 on Feb 22, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
Smith has all the tools
And I believe he’ll be a GOOD D one day, but it’s not the Detroit way to put him into the 2nd pair (let alone the first, though I know that’s a dream team).
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I wonder about Smith
Osgood said something in his lunch interview with Art that when Smith plays in Detroit is up to him. Josh, maybe you can help me remember if anything else specific was said.. but it makes me wonder if there are attitude/motivation issues going on. Does anyone else have any credible* information on this?
- That doesn’t come from a slutty girl who know a thing or two.
by SlapshotGoal on Feb 22, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
If it doesn't come from a slutty girl
It isn’t reliable information.
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He's young and has has some issues with lack of maturity before.
And according to a couple Red Wings fans in Grand Rapids, he seems to slack off when he plays down there sometimes. Instead of working hard, since he knows he will at some point be with Detroit, he doesn’t see a need to really work hard until he does make it.
Perhaps like a brilliant student who gets Cs and Bs in lower-level classes because she’s bored with the material that is too easy for her, but gets straight As when she has tougher classes that are more of a challenge and more to her interest. The intelligence and ability is clearly there, but the GPA is lowered by inattention in the less challenging courses.
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BINGO
that’s exactly what I took from what he said. Smith is slacking a bit and seems to lack motivation. He knows he has serious talent.
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by Josh Howard on Feb 22, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
so it depends
On if the team thinks the performance in lower level “courses” is a reflection of his work ethic or ability or if they think he is missing something important by not focusing on things he already knows, but just doesn’t worry about for the exams, or if they think that his performance in the more advanced “classes” is reflective of a commitment that won’t fade because he is motivated to succeed, just not at levels that are in his opinion (and maybe others as well) already below his ability.
Some professors are jerks about that and very rigid, some are more flexible and understanding. Could go either way.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
As someone who thrives on challenges, I absolutely understand the concept put forth by Baroque. I guess it still worries me a little bit. Will he treat a regular season game in January or February like it matters, or will be subscribe to the Mule school of thought and not play like it really matters until the playoffs? I have to believe if he’s still in GR it’s for good reason. I guess I’m a little concerned and hesitant. We definitely don’t need someone on the team who isn’t going to work his butt off and feels entitled to anything.
by SlapshotGoal on Feb 22, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
exactly
And I suspect that is what the team is trying to figure out. Will his motivation be high all the time when he is with Detroit, or will it only be high until he figures he has “made it” however he defines it in his own mind, and then he’ll level off at a lower level than he is capable of?
No way to really tell until he’s up for a while, though. People are unpredictable.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
I guess that’s why I’ll trust Kenny and Co. on this one. Though I suspect they have had concerns as well since he’s still in GR. On any other team, he’s be a regular on the roster by now, but we all know we have higher standards here in Detroit and attitude and work ethic and key requirements. I have faith that we won’t see Smith with the big club until when/if he’s ready. I’m in no rush.
by SlapshotGoal on Feb 22, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Assuming that Lidstrom retires after "ridding off into the sunset" (wink wink)
Kronwall – Suter
Quincey – Stuart
Ericsson – Smith
Kindl has yet to prove that he can be counted on night in and out not to pull Shitbox moves. Right now, I’d take Smith over him.
you forgot
about Ian White
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Maybe
But I’ve been under the impression their futures have been tied together for a few years now. They’ve never said it in public, but I know some of their teammates have made some remarks that say just about that. If one retires, so does the other.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Feb 22, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
I could actually see Suter staying in Nashville.
They may have to throw enough at him to keep him, in an attempt to also keep Weber, and be thinking that there may be yet another salary rollback in the next CBA so they won’t have to pay him everything he has earned and they have in the contract.
Regardless of if Detroit wins the Cup or not I think Stuart, Holmstrom, and Lidstrom are all gone. Nick is most likely to come back, but my gut says he’s done.
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If Suter stays in Nashville
I would be willing to bet that Holland makes another personal request for Lidstrom to return to hold the spot for Weber.
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You guys!
If Weber goes anywhere, its Vancouver, his team as a kid, and the one closest to home.
I do like how your fanbase and ours just totally discounts that the Preds will keep anyone though! ;-)
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How do you guys have the cap space!
You guys and Philly, I’m always shocked that you have enough money to do anything. Between Luongo, the Sedins, Kesler, Hamhuis and Bieksa, it’s like, where’s all the space come from?
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 22, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
They don't
6 UFAs, 2 RFAs, and just $8.5 million in cap space if the cap remains the same
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Feb 22, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
If Weber wants to come to Van next year
they’ll make room!
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I like Todd Bertuzzi as a 3rd/4th liner
But I also don’t like paying 3rd/4th liners that much.
If nothing else, he should help us keep winning shootouts.
by J.J. from Kansas on Feb 22, 2012 9:31 AM CST reply actions
Bert rules the shootout.
Just when you think he’s going to do the same thing over again.. he comes up with something different.
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and then he does a spin-o-rama!!!
I'm a Homer
by holmstrom96 on Feb 22, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
once in a blue moon
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by Josh Howard on Feb 22, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
hmmm...
I both like and dislike this move. But I definitely don’t hate it. Bert has been a solid role player for us. He willingly plays on the 3rd line when needed, still shows he can play in front of the net, use his body to protect the puck, and provides some great protection for Datsyuk. I really think other teams think twice about taking cheap shots at Pav because Bert is there, even though he’s been a stand-up citizen while with the Wings. I don’t know for certain but I can imagine it can’t hurt to have his veteran leadership and presence in the locker room especially if we’re going to have a number of younger guys next year.
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Just going to copy this from the quick hits, now that there's a place for it.
Not sure how I feel about this.
I like Bert, most of the time, but with Nyquist, Tatar, and Mursak all arguably ready to join the NHL ranks, hard to see signing Bert for two more years when we’d be better suited going after Parise, unless TickTock isn’t confident we have a strong shot at him.
Also, concerning Happy, wasn’t there an article early in the season talking about how all Happy wanted to do was redeem himself to the team and stick around? I wouldnt write off him taking a cut to stick around, if it’s offered. He chased the money once and wasn happy with it.
Regardless, in Ken we trust.
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You know, the first thing I thought of when I read this is "BOOOOO"
But now, I’m actually fine with it. I mean, I wouldn’t have done two years, but there’s a reason I’m not the GM. Holland is rarely wrong, and I trust him with this, too…
"Goaltending is a normal job, sure. How would you like it in your job if every time you made a small mistake, a red light went on over your desk and 15,000 people stood up and yelled at you."
-Jacques Plante
Could it be
that Holland knows someone isn’t returning? That’s what I think.
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by Josh Howard on Feb 22, 2012 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Like who?
Huds?
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by DetroitSports on Feb 22, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
perhaps
could be anyone really… could be a surprise retirement… we all know they hold these things close.
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by Josh Howard on Feb 22, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Please don't say "surprise retirement"
I’ve had about enough retirements for a while and I don’t need to be scrambling through the roster thinking “who could possibly be thinking about retirement”. I have enough to fret about already. :)
by SlapshotGoal on Feb 22, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
well.. think about it
Cleary… how much longer has he got? I know he’s got a few more years in him.. but you just never know. Guys come to Detroit and give it their all to get a cup. That comes with a lot of wear and tear.
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by Josh Howard on Feb 22, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
I would be bummed to see him retire so early, but at least I wouldn’t be heartbroken.
by SlapshotGoal on Feb 22, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Given his knee issues, I wouldn’t be completely shocked. Though he is only 33
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Feb 22, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
wow
I can’t help but agree which would be sad. I like Cleary’s unselfish, unassuming play. But if I were him, I might consider stepping down if the Wings win the Cup this year.
But it would open up an additional $3M to chase Parise….imagine:
Parise – Datsyuk – Franzen
Zetterberg – Helm – Filp
Eaves – Abdelkader – Bertuzzi
Miller – Tatar/Emmerton – Mursak/Nyquist
Suter – White
Kronwall – Quincey
Ericsson – Smith/Kindl
damn…that’s a hot team
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by styks on Feb 22, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I like how we all assume
that we are getting Suter next year. We certainly don’t have him yet, and I would assume there is a greater chance of Lids staying than us getting Suter. He is going to be super expensive at the free agency.
I'm a Homer
Miller on the fourth line? And Helm at 2C?
Not sure I agree with that, unless maybe Helm makes some large offensive strides.
Flip Eaves and Miller and I’d probably be okay with that, unless I’m just living in the moment and others think Eaves is better than the Grey Fox?
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I think Helm could handle the 2nd line
with Hank on it with him.
And while Miller has been AMAZING this year, Eaves actually has more talent and skills plus he’s a right hand shot so I like to mix it up like that.
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What about Buckets?
Maybe his knee is worse than we thought.
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Maybe Holmstrom?
Although I don’t know if that counts as a surprise as much as being too beat up to duct tape together and throw out on the rink.
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Yeah, I was thinking of him
Another name that popped up—Eaves. I sure hope not, but I want to know what effect that injury had on him
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by DetroitSports on Feb 22, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
It would be heartbreaking to see Eaves have to call it quits so early in his career. I really like the kid and he plays with a lot of heart. What if there was a way we could all send Eaves get well soon cards. Everyday a different person would send him one.. That would be awesome!
by SlapshotGoal on Feb 22, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
Unless something insane happens
No one is retiring early. This is a move for next year, not this one. The extension will have no bearing on the roster as it is currently constructed.
by Amerinadian on Feb 22, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
correct
people need to calm down a bit. who knows what the rest of the season holds? we aren’t even to the deadline yet!
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by Josh Howard on Feb 22, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
I’m speculating a couple years out because I wonder what the new CBA and possible lockout will do to everything. :/
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
I was looking ahead to the next season, not the trade deadline.
by SlapshotGoal on Feb 22, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
could be
I wouldn’t expect anything until after next season, though. It took Lilja a full calendar year to come back, and Crosby has played, what, eight games since his concussion? Patrice Bergeron of the Bruins lost a full year before he could play and it took another season on the ice before he was back to normal.
This season may be over, but I doubt he would make any conclusions about retirement unless and until it is clear that his improvement post-concussion stops at a level that doesn’t allow him to play. I doubt they will have any idea about that until next training camp.
I could believe Cleary, though. His knee has been bothering him for a while this year.
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Marc Savard lost his entire career though, so you never know.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 22, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
right
Marc Savard also had multiple concussions, poor thing. And he rushed back.
Either way, I think it is logical to assume the season is over for Eaves since he hasn’t been showing steady improvement, however slow, as far as anyone has said. Perhaps if he does miss the season and recovers during the offseason he can continue his career.
Time to determine that later. I just want the poor guy to get healthy as soon as he can.
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"It is a mistake to try to look too far ahead. The chain of destiny can only be grasped one link at a time." --Sir Winston Churchill (1874 – 1965)
I was disappointed to see a 2 year extension for Bert, and downright dismayed to read it might be for $2.2 mil per season.
Bert’s numbers this year aren’t all that great, and he’s playing with Datsyuk. I’ll hop on the Miller train and say I’d rather see him up on the 1st/2nd line.
don't let JJ hear you say that
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by kylegroombridge on Feb 22, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
I like Bert
but not at that price. In Holland we trust, though. Hope his play catches up to his pay.
Could do worse
Price is a little silly, but not Ericsson-stupid. Main concern I have, echoing a few others, is that he’s a progress stopper. You’ve got Nyquist and Tatar ready to go. Counting Eaves, we’re already sitting at 14 forwards. Everyone assumes Hudler is gone somehow (and I wouldn’t complain), but don’t look now cuz Happy’s our 2nd leading scorer. Everyone sure Holland will let our 2nd leading scorer walk? Let’s say Homer retires. That’s one slot and gets us down to 13 forwards. Nyquist and Tatar to the Leino Lounge, and Mursak stuck platooning? Are we really good with that?
I think everyone is assuming that Emmerton is gone and we’ll see at least one retirement. Not to mention the fact that Eaves is still a wild card and there have been some murmurs that his concussion may be a career ender. I believe we discovered in the preseason that Tatar must clear waivers to return to GR next season, so he is definitely with us.
We’re also negating any possible trades. If we make a move for Suter or Parise or Ryan or Selanne at the deadline, we’re losing a roster player or two. There’s no way around that
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Feb 22, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
I'm a little uneasy about the price, but...
by Rob Rogacki on Feb 22, 2012 1:00 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Blegh
I dunno about this one. Two years on a 38 year old players who is a depth forward that just happens to be playing on the first line because this team has some pretty big weaknesses on the wing?
And a raise? Yuck. I love Bertuzzi, he’s actually one of my favourite Red Wings, but come on!
Also, if Stuart leaves, I’m going to be very very sad.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 22, 2012 1:24 PM CST reply actions
Listening to Marek vs. Wysh
Adrian Dater is on. Uh… I’m worried about that guy. He sounds winded the whole time he’s talking. I’m actually asking in earnest. The guy sounds like he’s calling in from a spin class or something. Golly.
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by Lords of Olympia on Feb 22, 2012 1:37 PM CST reply actions
Gotta be kidding
We have a log jam of depth players. Thanks Bert, but go get money from some other team to fuel your attorney costs. We have to start moving some prospects into the line up or get rid of them. They would be just as effective, and would also be making entry level money.
by HeyHeyHockeyTown on Feb 22, 2012 1:42 PM CST reply actions
I don't mind this move
If our lines look something like this next year
Franzen – Pav – Buckets/Bertuzii
Fil – Zetterberg – Happy
Abdelkader – Helm – Bertuzzi/Buckets
Miller – Nyquist – Tatar
Which leaves Eaves (assuming he’s recovered by then) Emmerton, and Mursak on the outside looking in. I’d take Eaves over Miller (sorry JJ), and I don’t see enough from Emmerton outside of being a 3rd/4th line player, same with Mursak. Bert has shown that he can produce 35-45 points at this stage in his career, and as production from a 3rd line guy, that’s good in my book.
Forgot Hommer
But I think he’ll be guided towards retirement like Malts and Draper were
by Megistrus on Feb 22, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Buckets on the first line? No thanks.
I also hope were not relying on Bert up there again next year, I think that would indicate a failure to fix our issues at winger.
Also, in reply to your earlier post, Stuart is probably gone after this season.
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Stuart for Selanne
it could happen. Bert gets knocked back to 3rd/4th line this year, Selanne gets paired with Datsyuk, then retires and Bert bounces back up. Stuart is in Cali where he wants to be, Selanne gets a farewell Cup, net loss to the Wings is zero.
by WyoWingsFan on Feb 22, 2012 2:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Interesting thought
Selanne’s pretty stubborn about staying out there and I still don’t think it happens, but in an ideal world this might actually come to fruition.
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I'd be okay with this
Best way to part ways with Stuie :(
by shanny14 on Feb 22, 2012 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
There are times when I question what exactly Rutherford is thinking. Almost surprised he hasn’t fired at this point.
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Carolina is so hard to judge
Are they right on the cusp? Are they years away from contention?
One year, they’re in the playoffs, the next they’re fighting to not finish last. It’s got to be so infuriating to be Rutherford. Do you tear it apart, or do you keep trying to simply tinker with the line-up.
He could have received some great rebuilding pieces if he had been willing to deal Tim Gleason and Ruutu, but instead will probably only deal Bryan Allen, which will not yield close to what he could have received had he gone all in to a rebuild.
With Eric Staal and Jeff Skinner, the Canes have some decent, not too old young talent. And they have one of the best goalies in the league hands down in Cam Ward.
But you either have to rebuild, or really go for it. None of this in between shit.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 22, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
God damn, if this ends up true, this is terrible
I’m not a fan of Bertuzzi’s play most nights, and I feel like the last contract he signed was an overpayment. Two more years and more money as he gets older is the opposite of what I wanted.
i agree
if kenny wanted bert to stay in detroit, i wouldve expected less money because of his injury past. bert’s been just DECENT this year
by forever_rednwhite on Feb 22, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
while I can't agree with Bert's possible fat new paycheck
He does add something to the team and more this time around than during his first gig with the Wings. Hard to imagine how successful the wings would be without Bert in the Shoot outs…
Ericsson on the other hand… Just kidding JJ!
by Icecracker on Feb 22, 2012 6:49 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Bertuzzi's on the same points pace as Tuomo Ruutu
And we’re going to possibly paying him $2 million less. I’m okay with his “fat new paycheck.”
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but how many points do you think Ruutu would get on Datsyuk’s wing?
by J.J. from Kansas on Feb 22, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
That is a fair point
I’m not sure how much time Ruutu has spent on Staal’s wing in past seasons, but his highest point total in 82 games is 57 points. I’d say he’d produce somewhere about the same as that on Datsyuk’s wing, maybe a little more. Bertuzzi gets about 44 a year and would be on pace for the about the same in 82 games this year (on pace for 39 points in 75 this year). Is that $2.2 million worth ~15 more points?
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by Scott Kenny on Feb 22, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
I kinda thought Bert was done after this year
Strange move.
He hates me. >:(
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Bertuzzi’s thoughts before signing contract:
“I really want to piss off Baroque, Ken. Make it a two year deal and we’re in business.”
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by Scott Kenny on Feb 22, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
lol :P
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