Detroit Red Wings Trade Deadline Wrap-Up

I know I’m setting myself up to look stupid if Playoffs Franzen doesn’t show up this year, but I believe he will.

guess that didn’t happen. and yeah HOPEFULLY the mule will finally show up to playoffs. i would love to see filppula light it up this postseason

The Brendan Smith era

It carries over to the offseason.

Eaves. He was great on the PK and was always able to score timely depth goals.

But it seems like the prices for anyone of skill were astronomically high (see Gaustad, Paul). We don’t want to pull a Chicago and go all in on one year to only damage ourselves long term

but Detroit’s top line scares me. Bertuzzi and Franzen look like they’re sleep walking half the time.

Ultimately I think it will come down to Franzen and power play. The pk is doing pretty well right now. But the power play and Franzen are absolutely terrible. Both of those things have to come together come playoff time otherwise a second round exit will most likely happen. :(

This bad:

Today we went from top 4 in the West and cup contender to bottom 4 (out of 8 playoff teams).
I wouldn’t be surprised with Datsyuk out, Lidstrom hurting, and our newest model Q dinged-up, and with the power moves that Nashville’s GM just made, that the Preds surge in the last 20 games here, while the Wings take a dive in the standings. Furthermore, San Jose’s lineup has been bolstered, and their D is better than last year, Vancouver is Vancouver (now plus Pahlsson), St. Louis is 2 points back…It’s not pretty.

Aside from all that, I don’t really care where we end up in the standings as long as we make the playoffs, the question remains: Are the wings tough enough to beat SJ or Van, and now add Nash to that list.

I really wanted to see us add a gritty forward. Especially seeing Nashville and Vancouver getting their parts, I do feel that we missed out on some deals that we could have matched. KH apparently did inquire about Gaustad but didn’t have what BUF wanted (1st round, went to TB for Quincey).
Moving past that, now we have to play with the hands we’re dealt. I think if we can get Franzen, Flippula, and Huds playing effectively and playing well like they’re evidently capable of, then we’ve got a shot. Healthy Z and Dats is also imperative but they’re veterans now and know what it takes. Our bottom six is as deep as any team. But what may kill us could be our struggling special teams. If PP and PK stinks like it has most of the season, we’re really in deep shit.
Bottom line, I understand the message and it’s been the same since day 1 of the training camp. This group has to improve from within, and players need to take a step forward in their game and play better. But my major concern stems from the fact that the west is an absolute killer this year and staying healthy in the playoffs for a veteran team like the Wings could be a big problem. This team can win against any one in this league, WHEN they have all the pieces.

The Wings actually doing something or them giving the appearance that they are doing something? Because those are 2 very different things.

but when kenny holland reloads the wings are still looking to compete for the cup. i am excited for some smith action (and the smithgasms to be had by jeff) and im excited for this off season. nice cup filled off season where everyone wants to come help the wings go back to back!

I was initially not pleased at the day’s events, but seeing what other teams paid for shitty/rental players, I’m happy the Wings didn’t do something stupid.

there is your bold ass prediction considering idk if he is even playing lol

like I said in the other thread before realizing everyone else had left, if this is TPH’s last go at it, I’ll be a little upset at Tick Tock.

conditional 7th round pick (the conditions involve Commodore playing 15 games with the Lightning this season and Tampa making the playoffs).

Lolwut. Those are some strange, unfulfillable conditions for a 7th round pick

Detroit sits @ 2nd with 85 points (19 games left)
St.louis @ 4th with 83 points ( 20 games left)
Nashville @ 5th with 79 points (20 games left)
Chicago @ 6th with 73 points (18 games left)

What this tells me;

Even if the wings shit the bed… (which they will not) they will only go as
low as seed 5;

So if the Wings – dont win the division – they’d have a favorable matchup -though gritty
in the first round against a central division foe;

However- if the wings win they’ll likely be either 1st or 2nd in the conference
my bet is 2nd b/c of Vancouvers rise and current wings’ health problems
that being said we’d likely play the 7th seed – which would be Chicago if they continue to drop (though i doubt it) or likelier the loser of SanJose/Phoenix (likely phoenix)

so… overly early and pointless prediction is a 5-6 game series win over Phoenix for round 1

Post trade-deadline i still feel that the wings are the best team – homerism or not – there are teams that would be really competitive with Detroit but i still think top to bottom we’re the better deeper team

And it’s mostly because I don’t like our current roster. More specifically, I outright dislike our top 6. I don’t really know what else to say other than I think a Conference Finals run is the best I see happening.

What in the hell do I do with this custom #61 Nash jersey I just got in the mail?

I think it’s a little odd that whenever talking about the Red Wing way, people like to credit the 97/98/02 Cups to not making blockbuster trades at the deadline. How often in those years was there even a need TO address? From ’95 to the lockout, we were a FORCE.

Now, I’m not bad mouthing anything, and I love that we were able to handle the change to a league where draft picks and bringing up home grown guys is important. I will ALWAYS trust in Tick Tock Kenny.

All I’m saying is that the new NHL’s parity is so strong that maybe you can’t build a legit “powerhouse” without sacrificing something down the road. Granted, I enjoy our status as perennial “contenders,” I just don’t think it will ever result in being a stand alone monster in today’s NHL.(I’m also not saying that I’m not okay with it vs. the alternative)

Not really sure where I’m going with this, and it might go largely unread, but its something I’ve noticed go up in KH’s defense a lot, and I just don’t know that there aren’t better arguments to use instead.

I REALLY like Nyquist; I think he deserves a legit shot at the lineup. Now would be a great spot to try a couple of these guys in different lines to see what happens. I like Bertuzzi and Franzen, but I see the same thing others are seeing, especially with Franzen. His play as of late seems half-assed; he loses way too many puck battles, he’s taking lazy penalties because of that, his passes haven’t been crisp, his shot is not near as accurate. I think maybe he needs to sit a few to get the fire started again. Call it the flu, call it a personal matter, but right now I think he’s more of a liability than an asset.

only to go back to frustrating us till the playoffs?

Don’t sacrifice the future for the present is the mantra right now, correct?

Don’t give up picks, don’t give up prospects to make ourselves better right now, because these will all help us in the future.

Only, Ken Holland just went and resigned Bertuzzi for two years. Only he did the same thing with Holmstrom two years ago. Only he went out and signed Commodore this off-season. These guys are veteran players who have, at one point or another been valuable. They offer depth, and they play good hockey. But what else do they do?

Clog a roster spot.

So we couldn’t trade Tatar because he’s the future. But Bertuzzi, and players like Dan Cleary, are currently clogging those roster spots with their veteran-ness and their Lessons Learned. So Nyquist gets called up, and gets to play awesome fourth line minutes with known scoring beasts like Cory Emmerton. Knowing full well they will get absolutely zero opportunity for at least three years.

Then, the fact that now that I think about it, Kindl was supposed to be awesome. For all intents and purposes, he was awesome in his very first year and probably could have gone to play in the pros. But they waited, and continuously clogged the roster spot he could have held for years.

Did he get better? Did he get worse? Did he just kind of be? I don’t know, but his space on the team was simply not allowed. Because he was the future.

Only he’s not a very good future. He’s, currently at best, a number 4 defenseman for the Winnipeg Jets. Tomas Tatar has stagnated. Brendan Smith should have been here the whole season, but inexplicably wasn’t.

This is isn’t me declaring my hatred for the system. It’s produced a ton of results. Loads of them. I believe in Ken Holland, and I believe in the management team. But this clogging up of roster spots for years, while the future is hoarded and then brought up past their prime is making me nervous.

Currently, I would say the best prospect with a shot at being really good are those in Europe and Petr Mrazek. The rest, I’m afraid, are going to come up like Kindl, like Emmerton, like Mursak and just be perfectly adequate third or fourth line players.

So, why horde them all? If a guy like Dustin Brown (hypotheicals ahead) is available, why not trade these assets now, when they have a value, rather than horde them in Grand Rapids for years?

This should’ve been a fanpost, and I apologize. I’d really like to hear other people’s thoughts on this stuff.