The Door is Ajar, Mr Conklin: Oilers 5 - Red Wings 4
I guess there's something to be said about moral victories. While we as Wing fans don't get to experience too many of them, it's important to recognize them when they happen.
Tonight was a moral victory for the Red Wings. This had "trap game" written all over it, and they came out and played like it. Losing puck battles, getting out-skated, terrible special teams, and 3 very preventable goals against later, the Wings were down 3-1 only because of a fluke goal by Valtteri Filppula. It seemed like the first half road Red Wings were back.
The second period wasn't much better. The Wings were able to contain the awesomeness that is Sam Gagner after he potted another 3 points in the first period in between his attempts to cure cancer and end world hunger, but they couldn't get any pucks past Devan Dubnyk in their annual "make Dubnyk look like a Vezina winner" game. All seemed lost entering the third period.
But a funny thing happened in the third. The Wings, despite every single fan counting this game as a loss, woke up. Sure it took 40 minutes, but once they got going, it was impressive. Dominating puck possession and tilting the ice towards the Oilers' end, the Wings got 2 goals from Todd Bertuzzi and one from Drew Miller and managed to actually have a lead with less than a minute to go. Unfortunately, Jordan Eberle, who has a pesky habit of scoring last-minute goals, tied the game at 4 and we headed to overtime.
While the Wings have been dynamite in extra time, it was Edmonton who had the best chances. After stops by the post and Nicklas Lidstrom, the Wings were able to get the game into a shootout, meaning we all thought this was a win for Detroit. But, Pavel Datsyuk missed the net and Joey MacDonald (in relief of Ty Conklin) couldn't stop everyone and the Oilers got the 2 points they deserved.
After the jump, the late-night bullets.
- We give Babs some shit for not doing things when the Wings aren't playing well, but switching Zetterberg for Datsyuk was a sublte and brilliant move that immediately paid dividends. It seems like such a small thing, to swap centers, and yet Zetterberg immediately flourished with Bertuzzi and Franzen, chipping in 3 assists and looking fantastic. Tonight was not one of Datsyuk's better nights, as he looked "off" for the whole game.
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Speaking of Datsyuk, JJ had the following comment in the game thread tonight:
It's time to start criticizing Datsyuk
He’s money at 5-on-5, but I’m getting tired of watching him lazily hold the puck at the side of the play while the PKers get set to defend all the high-quality plays and leave them with nothing but low-percentage bullshit.
It’s time for Datsyuk to start putting pressure on the penalty killers.
I wholeheartedly agree with the above. Datsyuk is the player who typically has the puck the most, and he has the ability to influence the play more than anyone on the Wings' power play.
- Speaking of the power play, what the fuck is going on? 1 for their last 38 on the road, and their inability to get any decent chances while enjoying a 5-on-3 advantage in the first period while down 2-0 was probably the biggest reason why they lost the game. Combine that with a penalty kill unit that seems to give up at least one power play goal a game, and it's an extremely large area of concern for the Wings.
- Thanks for nothing, Ty Conklin. Seriously, if you're going to be "the guy" after Jimmy Howard gets injured, you might not want to flop around like a fish on "Deadliest Catch" and then allow a last second shot to get through you after your team miraculously pulls within one. To make matters worse for Mr Plumber, Joey MacDonald comes in an plays great. MacDonald's play has got to earn him the start on Monday night against Phoenix. The team just doesn't seem to have any confidence when Conklin's in net.
- Going after Niklas Kronwall after a clean hit on Ales Hemsky? I thought you were better than that, Edmonton.
- Drew Miller tied his career high in goals for a season, with his 10th of the season. He's scored 10 each of the three seasons he's been a Red Wing. He now has 18 points, 1 off his career high set in 2009-10, his first with the Wings. To say that Miller was a good pickup would be a massive understatement.
- Sam Gagner just scored again.
- Congratulations to Todd Bertuzzi, who scored his 300th goal of his career tonight, then added 301 and finished off the "hat trick" by scoring in the shootout (if Edmonton fans are going to throw hats for Gagner, then I'm going to sarcastically call Bert's performance a hat trick). Haters are going to hate, but good on you for reaching this milestone. For your efforts, you get the coveted WIIM Player of the Game.
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They didn't steal a point!
Edmonton got both of theirs, but the Wings did counterfeit one and ran off with it. Those charges will stick.
I was preparing a fan post rant about Datsyuk being invisible in the offensive zone, particular on the powerplay. Thank you for saving me the effort of looking up clips and stats to support my indignation.
Frankly after the way Joey played when he came into the game, we might have seen one of the last starts for Conklin in a Detroit uniform.
Pierre McGuire is a blithering dimwit.
by Brion on Feb 5, 2012 1:02 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
To summarize this game in GIF's
First/Second Period

Third Period Run

Edmonton Scores

Shootout Loss

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by SonicSpeed on Feb 5, 2012 1:19 AM CST reply actions 14 recs
There's the one they call Hank!
His efforts alone ignited the first line in the third period. That was some fun hockey to watch.. a bittersweet loss.
Thank God a point and a shitty powerplay was all we came out of this with.
this was the kind of game that could have easily ended with trades, firings, and mass exoduses…
at least i got to see kron wall somebody before tuning out.
and you folks are hilarious as always. went back through second and third period threads.
you people know how to make the most of an awful game.
so, mad props to you guys.
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by Lords of Olympia on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 AM CST reply actions
Seriously screw Conklin
Seriously, take his million and give it to Shitbox. Money better spent.
by shanny14 on Feb 5, 2012 2:36 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
must have been reading my mind
Wings would be better served by making brad stuart jimmy howard’s backup. or joey macdonald. conklin has had his chances and besides that shutout very early in the season, has he really done much when given the chance? he sure as hell IS NOT the same guy Wings had on the roster a few years back. was disappointed when Wings signed him; was hoping they would have signed ray emery. oh well…guess we’re stuck with conks for the time being. hopefully babs will let him continue to get splinters. maybe send him down to grand rapids and let petr merzak (not sure of spelling) have a whack at it.
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by wjr on Feb 5, 2012 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
just in case you wondered...
1 for 38 works out to 2.63% success rate on the power play. Reverse it, and opponents have a successful penalty kill percentage of 97.37%. Pretty impressive.
#bleargh
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"I thought you were better than that, Edmonton."
this isn’t the first time. When Drew Doughty got Taylor Hall good, the same thing happened.
You wanna tell me that to mah face?!
This is a team with Ben Eager on it.
Enough said.
Dump Conklin
Let Joey be are backup and we save more capspace that we are going to use on Weber
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by Detroitnr1 on Feb 5, 2012 7:53 AM CST via mobile reply actions
This is the part that confused me.
We Micky D down to the minors and bring in Conklin. Conker has yet to play a series of solid games. Does he expect to sit on his million?
screw weber
we want SUTER. he fits the mold of LIDSTROM better.
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by wjr on Feb 5, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
What a weird game
I’ve never seen a team deserve 0, 1 and 2 points all in the same night.
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by Elfuego51 on Feb 5, 2012 7:58 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I can't think Bab's will tolerate Conk's much longer.
Sure he can’t play enough to find his groove, I get that..but he’s just not at Red Wings level. He looks like a turtle, flopping around on his back. He often looks scared and confused but I’ll say in person, he’s a really likeable guy, still he’s in over his head. Big Mac has done more with his chances, historically. Also, enough with this nonsense that Howard will be out for 2 weeks.
cant think the guy in charge of the PP unit is going to have a job much longer
Seriously… how can you only get 4 shots on 4 PPs, including one that was over 2 minutes 5 on 3….
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the lost boys
that is what I’m beginning to think the Wings are when on the PP.
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by wjr on Feb 5, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions
I do feel bad for him, he got handed a less than ideal situation and proceeded to make it worse, but he seems like a good guy and a good teammate. I think he is better suited to go kick ass in the AHL, rather than tank in the NHL. It would be better for everyone.
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I was completely fine with Joey Mac as backup.
Didn’t really get it when they got Conklin back. Joey Mac has plenty of NHL experience to be a backup and has performed well in Detroit.
Zetterberg had 3 assists in this game right?
Well only if you were one of the many hockey fans who watched the game. Not to the official scorer in Edmonton though. Somehow passing the puck directly to Todd Bertuzzi on his 2nd goal doesn’t warrant an assist. I guess they got confused when Bertuzzi pulled the string too.
I’ll always have issues with official scorers. Goals and assists are the easiest part of the job. Just get it right. That’s the second game in a row the scorers messed up in Edmonton. Gagner’s glorious 8 point game should have been only 7 points. Whitney’s goal was blatantly unassisted. But they’d never take that point away after the game Gagner had. Any other game that would have been changed pretty quickly.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Couldn’t figure out how his second goal was unassisted.
by Apocalyptic0n3 on Feb 5, 2012 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
I'd also maybe give Cleary, Holmstrom or Miller some time on a top 2 line.
Franzen needs to pick his game up too, maybe dropping him to the 3rd or 4th line would light a fire under his ass.
I was thinking the same thing…and that stupid dodge truck commercial just rubs it in because of the long term, big money contract of his. you know, I don’t mind players making money but goddamnit, EARN THE MONEY! don’t just collect a check and then don’t show up when the team needs you to produce…I mean WTF! and yes, JOHAN FRANZEN, I am talking to Y O U!
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by wjr on Feb 5, 2012 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
Few Things
Joey Mac: You earned a start or two last night. Conk, I’m almost ready to say we should be taking Joey into the playoffs with us and not you.
I’ve said it a dozen times now and I’ll say it again: Potter stepping in to fight Kronwall after the Hemsky hit was absolutely the right thing to do. I don’t care how legal a hit is, you don’t allow opposing teams to hit your teammate like that and get away clean. Potter should have fought Kronwall and then did that same clean hit on him the first shift he was out of the box and then another clean hit in the third just to lay that message home. Legal hits can still do the same kind of damage an illegal hit can and Hemsky is lucky he didn’t get a concussion from Kronners.
And that was a hat trick for Bert, don’t care what the score sheet says. He kept us in in that game repeatedly last night and kept giving the rest of the team a shot to contribute. It’s a hat trick in my books.
"Almost ready to say"?
I’m practically screaming it.
There has not been a game yet, where once I’ve learned that Conks is starting, I’ve not had an immediate almost palpable sense of dread. I think Joey Mac stepped up in a huge way and proved he belongs in the backup spot for good last night.
I wonder if....
the “retaliatory hit for a clean check” isn’t at least in part a generational thing. The same way driving upward and exploding into a check started with younger players thinking that was the way it was done and then carried with them in to the NHL and thus served as an example to kids, I wonder if younger players coming up are expected to retaliate for even clean hits or they get berated by their coach.
Edmonton is full of young players. That may be what they are taught coming up through the ranks, and it takes time to unlearn habits (just look at how long it’s taken to try to educate and retrain players regarding headshots).
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If the wings cann't figure out
how to keep the pucks out of the net on the pk or get them into the net on the pp, they will lose in the playoffs. Thats just how it is.
What also is a little troubling is whats going to happen to Kronwall from now when he clocks people. Why wouldn’t the oilers (or after seeing the game last night) not retaliate against Kronwall? Maybe you rough him up or hurt him, at most you get a 2 to 4 min penalty. What are the wings going to do about it? They’re not going to fight and they definitely won’t score on the power play. Im not advocating they get a fighter or non-hockey player (Ben Eager, emphasis on non-hockey player) but I am strongly suggesting they figure out the power play. Otherwise there is no consequence to getting rough with the wings.
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apparently you missed the 4 fights in 3 games stat for Commie last night
and overall the Wings have been more fiesty as of late
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No I didn't miss them
What I am saying is that those fights are pointless and while Commodore does fight he certainly doesn’t prevent anyone from taking shots at the wings. Even more so when he loses fights. Commodore doesn’t intimidate anyone.
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Was at Bdubs for the fights last night so I didn't have audio but
why the wings get a penalty when Commie fought last night?
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I wasn't sure either
I think maybe commodore couldn’t get his glove in time so he may have hit Eager with gloved hand at the beginning. thats just speculation. I have no idea otherwise.
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The actual fight with Eager
Came right after Holmstrom hooked a guy. There was a delayed penalty pending when those two went at it.
The other one (where he and Eager got matching roughing minors and we ended up shorthanded) was not as good. Cam Barker interfered with Homer, who dragged Barker down. Eager & Commie got involved & got matching roughings while Homer also got a roughing call. Barker got nothing on that play, which was dumb.
by J.J. from Kansas on Feb 5, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Do you think that there are people in the league who keep people from taking shots at their teammates?
It doesn’t seem to me that enforcers actually prevent things like that. In fact, I think the enforcer-heavy Atlantic division is worse off because those teams all employ shits like that and they still cheap-shot each other with impunity.
by J.J. from Kansas on Feb 5, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd be really happy if non-goon players showed emotion and gave shits about their teammates getting their lights knocked out
When Z got boarded, I know it was Flip and Hudler on the ice…but really..nobody got in anyones face over Zetterberg getting destroyed?
I remember Red Berenson getting in my face as a kid for taking a shot at someone who ran one of our players. “Retaliate on the power play by scoring.”
by gump.worsley on Feb 5, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Unfortunately
“Power plays” and “scoring” seem to be mutually exclusive for the Wings right now.
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Like Kovalchuk last night?
Because that was freaking awesome. He demolished Brayden Schenn.
by eight_legged_freaks on Feb 5, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
just like
when hudler got run over earlier in the season…no one and I mean no one on the Wings did anything about it. eventually someone will get injured for a long enough period of time and that will put the kibosh on the playoff season for the Wings.
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by wjr on Feb 5, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
Do I think that?
no. I don’t. Thats why I think the red wings need to figure out their damn special teams. They suck. Lets be honest. They’re fucking terrible. The only way to prevent the dickheads of the league from taking advantage of a smaller more athletic hockey team is to score goals when they fuck up. The wings are playing well 5 on 5 but these special teams are going to be the end of them.
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by Eric @ PRBU on Feb 5, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The bright spot in that game
was definitely Joey Mac. I don’t know if he went into it thinking that this was his chance to try and steal the backup spot from Conklin, but he put forth an excellent argument to that effect. I say play him Phoenix, if he puts up a showing like that again then it’s time for the Wings to take a real hard look at giving Conklin the boot. I know I’d feel better with Joey behind Tiberius on the home stretch. Turning on games to find that Conks is in net is starting to give me ulcers.
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this could start a trend..
kindl and commie are battling for the sixth spot. joey mac should be allowed to battle for the backup spot. wtf has conks done with his chances? other then the one shutout he has (and that was some time ago) what exactly has he done to earn his keep? if he wants the job of clearing toilets, give him that job and let’s move joey mac to back up and see what mrzak has to offer.
and honestly, if the wings are really and truly serious about contending in the post season, they HAVE TO, NO BULLSHIT ABOUT IT, FIX THEIR GODDAMNED POWER PLAY! what’s the point of red wings getting slashed, cross-checked, tripped, boarded, roughed, etc., if you’re not going to make the opposing team pay for it? best way to do that is to PUT THE FUCKING PUCK IN THE GODDAMNED NET!!!
and for those red wing players who aren’t totally committed to making opposing players lives miserable when they’re on the ice, (e.g. red wing penalty killers) what’s the point of them being on the roster? maybe it is time to light some fires under some people’s asses. call it a attitude adjustment assessment test. if you perform, you pass, and you get to keep your spot on the roster. if you don’t perform, you either get sent down or you’re traded for someone who will do whatever it is you’re not. pretty damned simple!
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by wjr on Feb 5, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
This oughta Cher everyone up
Hooray, he did it!
You sound like a manure salesman with a mouthful of samples.
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I missed that the first time I saw the site.
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